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Worztron · 14-12-2011, 13:34

What does this mean? Uibh Fhaili abú!

An gal gréine · 14-12-2011, 14:19

Offaly for ever.
Uíbh Fhailí go brách is the same.

Worztron · 16-12-2011, 20:23

Would this be accurate?

Your friend Jon = Do chara Jon

An gal gréine · 16-12-2011, 20:33

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Originally Posted by Worztron

Would this be accurate?

Your friend Jon = Do chara Jon

Maybe just a comma after friend/chara.

Worztron · 16-12-2011, 20:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by An gal gréine

Maybe just a comma after friend/chara.

Like so?

Your friend, Jon = Do chara, Jon

An gal gréine · 16-12-2011, 20:44

Yeah, that's my take on it .

franc 91 · 27-12-2011, 18:29

How do I say? - I would be most grateful if you could...
(PS I'm told on good authority that Irish speakers don't say - please (le do thoil) - which is Béarlachas, but would normally use the conditional to ask for something and would also use a blessing as a form of politeness as part of their request).

An gal gréine · 27-12-2011, 20:36

Bheinn fíor-bhuíoch dá dtiocfadh leat...
Bheinn fíor-bhuíoch dá bhféadfá...

franc 91 · 27-12-2011, 20:56

Go raibh maith agat - but the question I'm always asking myself is - would an Irish-speaker say this? or am I transposing English into Irish? Would you use this in a letter for example?

An gal gréine · 27-12-2011, 21:06

Yes I would, and I can assure you that there'd be a "le do thoil" in there somewhere.
"...dom pionta" is often heard when looking for a drink and while it sounds demanding it's not taken to be so.
I suppose it depends on the circumstances but "le do thoil" or má's é do thoil é" are in regular use.

franc 91 · 27-12-2011, 21:24

Well in my little book entitled 'L'Irlandais de Poche' (which has a lot to answer for, I might add) it says - (for the second pint) -
Puis-je avoir une autre pinte? - Aon seans ar phionta eile?
La voilà - Seo é.

An gal gréine · 27-12-2011, 21:29

That would be bang on...and that's where I'm off to now...sláinte

franc 91 · 27-12-2011, 21:33

mise freisin - slàn leat

Enkidu · 28-12-2011, 13:56

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Originally Posted by Worztron

Like so?

Your friend, Jon = Do chara, Jon

Mo chara, e.t.c. imply that they are your only friend. For the English "my friend" say cara liom, leat, e.t.c. or cara de mo chuid/dem' chuid.

An gal gréine · 29-12-2011, 13:47

At the end of a letter, this is what I'd put:
...do chara, Jon.
"cara de mo chuid" is "one of my friends", so
"cara de do chuid"..."one of your friends" would not need to be stated.
I dont see any implication that either of us, in the example, has no other friends.
Maybe someone could throw more light on the subject.

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14-12-2011, 14:19	#2
An gal gréine Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 925 Adverts \| Friends	Offaly for ever. Uíbh Fhailí go brách is the same.

16-12-2011, 20:23	#3
Worztron Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,952 Adverts \| Friends	Would this be accurate? Your friend Jon = Do chara Jon

16-12-2011, 20:44	#6
An gal gréine Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 925 Adverts \| Friends	Yeah, that's my take on it .

27-12-2011, 18:29	#7
franc 91 Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 400	How do I say? - I would be most grateful if you could... (PS I'm told on good authority that Irish speakers don't say - please (le do thoil) - which is Béarlachas, but would normally use the conditional to ask for something and would also use a blessing as a form of politeness as part of their request).

27-12-2011, 20:36	#8
An gal gréine Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 925 Adverts \| Friends	Bheinn fíor-bhuíoch dá dtiocfadh leat... Bheinn fíor-bhuíoch dá bhféadfá...

27-12-2011, 20:56	#9
franc 91 Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 400	Go raibh maith agat - but the question I'm always asking myself is - would an Irish-speaker say this? or am I transposing English into Irish? Would you use this in a letter for example?

27-12-2011, 21:06	#10
An gal gréine Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 925 Adverts \| Friends	Yes I would, and I can assure you that there'd be a "le do thoil" in there somewhere. "...dom pionta" is often heard when looking for a drink and while it sounds demanding it's not taken to be so. I suppose it depends on the circumstances but "le do thoil" or má's é do thoil é" are in regular use.

27-12-2011, 21:24	#11
franc 91 Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 400	Well in my little book entitled 'L'Irlandais de Poche' (which has a lot to answer for, I might add) it says - (for the second pint) - Puis-je avoir une autre pinte? - Aon seans ar phionta eile? La voilà - Seo é.

27-12-2011, 21:29	#12
An gal gréine Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 925 Adverts \| Friends	That would be bang on...and that's where I'm off to now...sláinte

27-12-2011, 21:33	#13
franc 91 Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 400	mise freisin - slàn leat

29-12-2011, 13:47	#15
An gal gréine Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 925 Adverts \| Friends	At the end of a letter, this is what I'd put: ...do chara, Jon. "cara de mo chuid" is "one of my friends", so "cara de do chuid"..."one of your friends" would not need to be stated. I dont see any implication that either of us, in the example, has no other friends. Maybe someone could throw more light on the subject.