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Ireland Team Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread IV

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  • #5312
    Buer
    Registered Users Posts: 24,176 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    smiley_face wrote:
    I've heard DK used to kick penalties so that should make it obvious if anyone has seen him kick at goal? Kinda kills the whole 'have to be left-legged to play left wing' argument, so Earls can play 11 without that debate.

    He's right footed.


  • #5313
    shaungil
    Registered Users Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭shaungil


    So they're all gone for a weeks holiday I hear. It's either madness or genius depending on how we perform. I guess they've had a long stint in camp so break makes sense into the run up.


  • #5314
    total former
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭total former


    smiley_face wrote: »
    I've heard DK used to kick penalties so that should make it obvious if anyone has seen him kick at goal?
    Kinda kills the whole 'have to be left-legged to play left wing' argument, so Earls can play 11 without that debate.

    This whole left-footer thing is being totally overblown. We went through the 2014 6N with Trimble and DK with McFadden on the bench and we managed.


  • #5315
    Interested Observer
    Registered Users Posts: 12,999 ✭✭✭✭Interested Observer


    total former wrote: »
    This whole left-footer thing is being totally overblown. We went through the 2014 6N with Trimble and DK with McFadden on the bench and we managed.

    Were there many other options in 2014? Lot of injuries as I recall. Schmidt mentioned specifically this year that he didn't want to end up with 3 left footers in the back 3 during the 6N anyway.


  • #5316
    smiley_face
    Closed Accounts Posts: 469 ✭✭smiley_face


    shaungil wrote: »
    So they're all gone for a weeks holiday I hear. It's either madness or genius depending on how we perform. I guess they've had a long stint in camp so break makes sense into the run up.

    Surely a few will be playing in the Interpros?


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  • #5317
    total former
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭total former


    Interested Observer wrote: »
    Were there many other options in 2014? Lot of injuries as I recall. Schmidt mentioned specifically this year that he didn't want to end up with 3 left footers in the back 3 during the 6N anyway.

    There was Zebo, you may recall there was a brief and cordial discussion over his omission, but it passed very quickly.


  • #5318
    smiley_face
    Closed Accounts Posts: 469 ✭✭smiley_face


    Interested Observer wrote: »
    Were there many other options in 2014? Lot of injuries as I recall. Schmidt mentioned specifically this year that he didn't want to end up with 3 left footers in the back 3 during the 6N anyway.

    Just asking the obvious question, why and how would we need a left-legged player on the right?
    Assuming some left-legged bodies are filling each of the other two positions in the back 3...


  • #5319
    Interested Observer
    Registered Users Posts: 12,999 ✭✭✭✭Interested Observer


    total former wrote: »
    There was Zebo, you may recall there was a brief and cordial discussion over his omission, but it passed very quickly.

    He'd been out injured for several months, missed the AIs, and just got back to playing right before the tournament is what I recall, and that's why he wasn't involved.

    And yes I can remember a rather pathetic amount of squealing over the whole thing.


  • #5320
    Witheringeye
    Registered Users Posts: 110 ✭✭Witheringeye


    smiley_face wrote: »
    I've heard DK used to kick penalties so that should make it obvious if anyone has seen him kick at goal?
    Kinda kills the whole 'have to be left-legged to play left wing' argument, so Earls can play 11 without that debate.

    Yeah he is right footed but he's also very good with left
    And it's not really an argument. It's basically what joe has said and what his selection history has said


  • #5321
    total former
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭total former


    Interested Observer wrote: »
    He'd been out injured for several months, missed the AIs, and just got back to playing right before the tournament is what I recall, and that's why he wasn't involved.

    And yes I can remember a rather pathetic amount of squealing over the whole thing.

    Oh sweet Jesus let's leave it there.


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  • #5322
    Interested Observer
    Registered Users Posts: 12,999 ✭✭✭✭Interested Observer


    total former wrote: »
    Oh sweet Jesus let's leave it there.

    You brought it up.


  • #5323
    smiley_face
    Closed Accounts Posts: 469 ✭✭smiley_face


    Witheringeye wrote: »
    Yeah he is right footed but he's also very good with left
    And it's not really an argument. It's basically what joe has said and what his selection history has said

    The quote I thought I heard Joe say was something more along the lines of
    he didn't want the full set of the back three all kicking with the same kicking leg (paraphrasing).


  • #5324
    total former
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭total former


    Interested Observer wrote: »
    You brought it up.

    In answer to a direct question.

    But see previous post.


  • #5325
    smiley_face
    Closed Accounts Posts: 469 ✭✭smiley_face


    smiley_face wrote: »
    I'm plagued with the vision that they will turn up and we'll have a gut-wrenching opening half where they open us up.
    Then they will get bored with the effort and our lads will dominate the 2nd half and roll them over. Just a thought. 😰

    I've a vested couple of tickets that makes me worry though...


  • #5326
    wittycynic
    Registered Users Posts: 532 ✭✭✭wittycynic


    smiley_face wrote: »
    I'm plagued with the vision that they will turn up and we'll have a gut-wrenching opening half where they open us up.
    Then they will get bored with the effort and our lads will dominate the 2nd half and roll them over. Just a thought. 😰

    Sounds a bit like our quarter final against them in 2003, except for the "and roll them over" part.


  • #5327
    Witheringeye
    Registered Users Posts: 110 ✭✭Witheringeye


    Rumour in the IT today that Schmidt may only bring 2 SHs in order to brink a back up 12 (cave or darcy)


  • #5328
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 53,355 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Witheringeye wrote: »
    Rumour in the IT today that Schmidt may only bring 2 SHs in order to brink a back up 12 (cave or darcy)

    Rumour or just pure speculation because they're running out of interesting things to write? :)


  • #5329
    flangemeistro
    Registered Users Posts: 1,692 ✭✭✭flangemeistro


    awec wrote: »
    because they're running out of interesting things to write

    Sounds very like what's going on here.


  • #5330
    .ak
    Registered Users Posts: 30,308 Mod ✭✭✭✭.ak


    Witheringeye wrote: »
    Rumour in the IT today that Schmidt may only bring 2 SHs in order to brink a back up 12 (cave or darcy)

    That's silly. Madigan should be backup 12. Why risk the scrumhalf situation?


  • #5331
    Witheringeye
    Registered Users Posts: 110 ✭✭Witheringeye


    awec wrote: »
    Rumour or just pure speculation because they're running out of interesting things to write? :)

    More than likely


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  • #5332
    Witheringeye
    Registered Users Posts: 110 ✭✭Witheringeye


    .ak wrote: »
    That's silly. Madigan should be backup 12. Why risk the scrumhalf situation?

    Maybe it's because all it would take would be one injury to henshaw (assuming they wouldn't shift Payne to 12 and earls to 13) for mads to be starting at 12 but it would take both Murray and reddan getting injured for the scrum half risk to materialise.
    This is all on the premise that joe would not want mads starting a game at 12 vs France etc, which is reasonable
    Or perhaps joe is an avid reader of boards.ie and he's so sick of the marmion vs boss debate that he's not bringing either!


  • #5333
    connachta
    Registered Users Posts: 7,963 ✭✭✭connachta


    Anyway I'd like to see Madigan at 9, could do ok for just 10 minutes (It's the worst case IMO, very unlikely the 2 SHs get injured the one just before and and the other during the same game)


  • #5334
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 53,355 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    flangemeistro wrote: »
    Sounds very like what's going on here.

    Getting tired of your sarky comments. This is a discussion forum, people are here to discuss even if you deem it uninteresting by your own stellar standard of posting.

    If you don't like it you know where to go.


  • #5335
    total former
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭total former


    awec wrote: »
    Rumour or just pure speculation because they're running out of interesting things to write? :)

    All three. Joe said something along these lines on Sunday, that he hadn't decided how many SHs to bring. I don't believe him, frankly.


  • #5336
    dub_skav
    Registered Users Posts: 2,530 ✭✭✭dub_skav


    total former wrote: »
    All three. Joe said something along these lines on Sunday, that he hadn't decided how many SHs to bring. I don't believe him, frankly.

    You've often heard that X scrumhalf plays like an extra backrow (Phillips, O'Leary, insert other large scrum half here)?

    Well, Joe is thinking the opposite, with his backrow playing like an extra scrum half.
    He's considering bringing 6, with no sub backrows as a result. Cooney and McGrath on standby

    Always thinking outside the box is Joe


  • #5337
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    total former wrote: »
    All three. Joe said something along these lines on Sunday, that he hadn't decided how many SHs to bring. I don't believe him, frankly.

    Joe told me that he reads these threads for ****s and giggles.

    Sent Marmion back to Connacht last weekend just to get a reaction.

    Grade A troll our Joe is!


  • #5338
    ionadnapokot
    Registered Users Posts: 4,730 ✭✭✭ionadnapokot


    Witheringeye wrote: »
    Rumour in the IT today that Schmidt may only bring 2 SHs in order to brink a back up 12 (cave or darcy)
    No worries. Madser got u covered.:)


  • #5339
    connachta
    Registered Users Posts: 7,963 ✭✭✭connachta


    total former wrote: »
    All three. Joe said something along these lines on Sunday, that he hadn't decided how many SHs to bring. I don't believe him, frankly.

    I do, it's a waste of talent to bring a 3rd SH, far behind the first 2, just in case both of them gets injured between the day before the eve of a game, and the 60th minute of that game. The chances are close to none.
    But a 6th prop more than another centre would be better


  • #5340
    total former
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭total former


    connachta wrote: »
    I do, it's a waste of talent to bring a 3rd SH, far behind the 2 first, just in case both of them gets injured between the day before the eve of a game, and the 60th minute of that game. The chances are close to none.
    But a 6th prop more than another centre would be better

    For the last five years, all we've heard is how meticulous Joe is in every aspect of planning.

    To suggest that, ten days before he announces his squad, he doesn't even know how many scrum-halves he'll bring, is ludicrous.


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  • #5341
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 53,355 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    emmet02 wrote: »
    Joe told me that he reads these threads for ****s and giggles.

    He consults with the mods before making a squad announcement to warn us of any potential problematic selections and asks for our input.

    We have a list ready for him right now of selections that he absolutely cannot make to save this place from implosion.

    He usually listens to us, though he did ignore us that time he dropped Murray for Reddan. :mad:


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