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    #62
    Tirabaralla
    Registered Users Posts: 2,422 ✭✭✭Tirabaralla


    First of all, I apologize for massive multi-quote :)
    Access wrote: »
    I was totally wrong on my prediction of how the article was going to turn out.

    I am very impressed with it... especially that it was in the main Sunday Times paper and not one of the supplements! - means more people will see it and hopefully come around to couponing and saving money on their shop.

    Well done Tirabaralla, your story and points were told perfectly and you came across very professional in the article.

    It nice to put a face to the name.

    Thanks to Siobhan Maguire for writing the article too!

    Who else from here was on it... fair dues to ye.
    And...waht a face :o
    Anyway, thank you! After your pertinent notes I was a bit worried lol
    Kinda relieved :D

    mrswalton wrote: »
    Well done Tirabella, great photo, thats one happy couponer! (you don't need make-up):)

    Very pleasant article. I too was surprised to see it in the main section.
    Me too, and yes I needed it badly...plus, my face is not that wide, see how stratched thos Johnson's bubble bath bottles are? Eh? :D
    vicwatson wrote: »
    Y'know when a coupon states "cannot be used in conjunction with any other offer" (and the likes), is it A) The retailer doesn't give a fiddlers? or B) The company that take the coupons from the retailers don't actually know/cannot cross reference if the coupon has been used with a, say, reduced price product?

    I just wonder what is the purpose of the "cannot be used in conjunction with any other offer" blurb supposed to mean.
    gazzaman22 wrote: »
    My understanding of this is that the coupon that you are using and product(on offer or not) can be combined to buy said product but you cant use ...say 2 different coupons in conjunction

    An example i refer to if i have confused ppl.
    There was a pigsback coupon and a todayfm coupon both for €2 off persil, My belief is that you cannot buy a persil and use both coupons!

    I'm open to correction....
    Access wrote: »
    Correct in one gazzaman.

    you can use a coupon if the item is on offer/is not on offer in store but you cant combine coupons for one item.

    I think the understanding in this is slightly different and I am sorry but I think is wrong to suppose that they just don't enforce a rule:
    I think that manfufacturer offer is different from store offer, manufacturer coupon is different from store coupon (discount). The manufacturer protects himself by printing "not to be used in conjunction..." etc it means not to be used with any other offer for same product or same range that they may have issued or will issue.
    Couponing IS matching, very rarely it makes sense otherwise. (I just found out I should be calling it "stacking" lol)
    The coupon we use is fully refounded by manufacturer, the discount in shop is decided by the shop, when you use your coupon you spend as much "money" as another buyer does, for what the shop in concerned.
    Obviously any shop could decide to have a coupon policy where they state they won't accept coupons conjucted with their offers (maybe not a great trading strategy) but in general manufacturer coupon and shop discount are two different things.


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    #63
    stirliz
    Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭stirliz


    brian_t wrote: »
    The price on the receipt should not be more then the offer price on the shelf.
    If it is you need to bring it back to the Customer Services desk and tell them.
    Tesco will give you back double the over-charge amount.

    I know that, but normally it is the way that first is shown full price and then the offer is deducted on your receipt too.


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    #64
    snubbleste
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    I think you need to read up on marketing and incentives to purchase Tirabarella
    You'll find that most supermarket offers are actually funded by the manufacturer.
    Example: 2 branded breads for €1, the supermarket does not take the hit, the manufacturer does.
    Secondly you'll find that only one coupon can be used per product no matter how different or origin of the coupon. This ain't the USA where store policies are vastly different to here.
    Manufacturers attract customers by marketing incentives such as bogof, coupons, collect tokens, free gift etc. I don't think any manufacturer would be happy that they are marketing their products in a store through a discount and then a coupon being used in addition to this.


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    #65
    Tirabaralla
    Registered Users Posts: 2,422 ✭✭✭Tirabaralla


    stirliz wrote: »
    I know that, but normally it is the way that first is shown full price and then the offer is deducted on your receipt too.

    No, this is true for bogof products or products that are on offer if bought together etc, when the discount is a matter of percentual on the original price normally it comes up already at discounted price on receipt...at least at "my" Tesco?


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    #66
    brian_t
    Registered Users Posts: 6,654 ✭✭✭brian_t


    Tirabaralla wrote: »
    but in general manufacturer coupon and shop discount are two different things.

    Tesco is very secretive.
    I think it's unclear whether they carry the discount or it's forced unto the supplier.
    This might be more relevant in the case of smaller manufacturers.
    Ms McGuinness called on Tesco and other major multiples to clarify their policies in relation to price promotions on a range of products, including food.

    She said it is important for consumers to know whether Tesco actually takes a reduction in its profit margin in favour of offering value to consumers or whether Tesco, because it is a very large retailer, puts pressure on its suppliers to supply goods at lower cost.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0329/tesco.html


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    #67
    purplestar77
    Registered Users Posts: 173 ✭✭purplestar77


    snubbleste wrote: »
    Manufacturers attract customers by marketing incentives such as bogof, coupons, collect tokens, free gift etc. I don't think any manufacturer would be happy that they are marketing their products in a store through a discount and then a coupon being used in addition to this.

    My opinion on this would be that if the Manufacturers chose to offer their product as a special offer/discounted (for marketing reasons), they must have allowed a budget for this, then if they also chose to offer coupons for their product and would have to allowed a certain budget for this as well.

    Does it make that much of a difference to them if both of these incentives are used together - if they are all budgeted for by the manufacturer in the first place??

    They are making both types of incentives available for use by consumers when they run a special offer during a time when a coupon is still valid. ....Anyway just my thoughts on it....


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    #68
    snubbleste
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Yes it does.
    That's why the manufacturers & pigsback have coupons that say 'Not valid with any other promotion or offer.' :)


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    #69
    vicwatson
    Registered Users Posts: 28,403 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Tirabaralla wrote: »
    First of all, I apologize for massive multi-quote :)


    And...waht a face :o
    Anyway, thank you! After your pertinent notes I was a bit worried lol
    Kinda relieved :D



    Me too, and yes I needed it badly...plus, my face is not that wide, see how stratched thos Johnson's bubble bath bottles are? Eh? :D







    I think the understanding in this is slightly different and I am sorry but I think is wrong to suppose that they just don't enforce a rule:
    I think that manfufacturer offer is different from store offer, manufacturer coupon is different from store coupon (discount). The manufacturer protects himself by printing "not to be used in conjunction..." etc it means not to be used with any other offer for same product or same range that they may have issued or will issue.
    Couponing IS matching, very rarely it makes sense otherwise. (I just found out I should be calling it "stacking" lol)
    The coupon we use is fully refounded by manufacturer, the discount in shop is decided by the shop, when you use your coupon you spend as much "money" as another buyer does, for what the shop in concerned.
    Obviously any shop could decide to have a coupon policy where they state they won't accept coupons conjucted with their offers (maybe not a great trading strategy) but in general manufacturer coupon and shop discount are two different things.

    The wording "ANY OTHER OFFER" is key to me when written on the coupon, the fact that it states ANY , would mean to me to preclude one from using it in conjunction with a shop discount or ANY other offer?


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    #70
    Irishchick
    Registered Users Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭Irishchick


    A coupon is not an offer, its a coupon. They are different. As other said companies are not stupid. They budget for coupons and store offers. They would not have store offers in conjunction with offering coupons if they did not want the coupons to be used on the offer.

    This has been said about 5 million times, we need an FAQ thread.


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    #71
    snubbleste
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Link for that Irishchick?
    Also explain the "Not valid with any other offer or promotion" Is it just a waste of ink?


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    #72
    Irishchick
    Registered Users Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭Irishchick


    I don't need a "link". The fact that Tesco and other stores accept them, redeem them and continue to accept them is hard proof.

    If it was not allowed then Tesco would have had indicated this to someone by now. According to your explanation they'd just be ignoring it, which is ridiculous.

    Manufacturers plan for it. Why do you think they offer coupons with new products that are on offer like the "Why not" coupons. All they are interested in is persuading you to try the product in the hope you will buy it again. Coupons/offers are budgeted for in the initial planning.


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    #73
    snubbleste
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    "Not vaild with any other offer or promotion" explanation required.

    And the stores do ignore that condition, but sometimes they don't and examples have been posted in the old couponing thread.

    Sure, I'll write to Pigsback any ask them to remove those requirements from their coupon small print, save me some printer ink.


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    #74
    Irishchick
    Registered Users Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭Irishchick


    snubbleste wrote: »

    Sure, I'll write to Pigsback any ask them to remove those requirements from their coupon small print, save me some printer ink.

    By all means go ahead. The rest of us will be busy using coupons ;):rolleyes:


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    #75
    Tirabaralla
    Registered Users Posts: 2,422 ✭✭✭Tirabaralla


    Either the in-store discount is fuelled by the manufacturer itself or decided by the store company for any kind of reason or "pact" with the manufacturer it doesn't change the fact that one thing is manufacturer coupon, another is store coupon (like the ones you get with your "fidelity card") and yet another is in store discount...
    It's obvious that manufacturers and especially multinationals have a say on what goes discounted and when (we all notice that some products are normally discounted at certain times of the year, periodically), this doesn't change the fact that they ARE different things, different strategies, with different costs for the different parts (ie I'd say it's quite right to suppose that supermarkets discount items that they buy in bulkier amounts than normal or that they don't want to expire on the shelves, this also by according themselves to the manufacturing companies or even putting pressure on them to get a certain deal to attract costumers).

    And I did study marketing and selling strategies of supermarkets, down to why a certain aisle should smell a certain way, thank you :)


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    #76
    Tirabaralla
    Registered Users Posts: 2,422 ✭✭✭Tirabaralla


    Btw, Woolite for 1.80 euro in SuperValu, 25 washings, if anyone is interested.
    Less than 7 cents a washing, a personal best :)
    (dicounted half price at 3.80-2.00 coupon=1.80)

    Plenty is also still discounted and it comes down to 1.12 eurox2 rolls


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    #77
    vicwatson
    Registered Users Posts: 28,403 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    snubbleste wrote: »
    "Not vaild with any other offer or promotion" explanation required.

    And the stores do ignore that condition, but sometimes they don't and examples have been posted in the old couponing thread.

    Sure, I'll write to Pigsback any ask them to remove those requirements from their coupon small print, save me some printer ink.


    I agree 100%

    The coupon should be invalid if there is another offer or promotion on the product and you try to use the coupon.

    The fact that staff take them and don't care is not the point, the fact remains that that part of the terms and conditions means they are not valid if there is another offer or promotion on that particular good.

    In reality what happens is that the checkout assistant could not be a*sed checking to see if the product is on offer or not, with so many products for sale and offers changing they don't have a clue what's on offer or not, once the coupon passes the beep test then away with you.

    But if someone does check it, and they know what's on offer, I think they would be within their rights not to accept the coupon.


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    #78
    hairyairyfairy
    Registered Users Posts: 365 ✭✭hairyairyfairy


    http://www.nca.ie/nca/groceries

    as per National Consumer Agency website



    Use coupons wisely
    Coupons can save you money - but don't buy products you don't need just because you have a coupon.
    You can find coupons on the back of receipts from most of the major supermarkets and on various websites.
    Watch out for special offers and two-for-one deals on products you regularly use, and stock up when your items are on special offer.


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    #79
    vicwatson
    Registered Users Posts: 28,403 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    hairyairyfairy wrote: »
    http://www.nca.ie/nca/groceries

    as per National Consumer Agency website



    Use coupons wisely
    Coupons can save you money - but don't buy products you don't need just because you have a coupon.
    You can find coupons on the back of receipts from most of the major supermarkets and on various websites.
    Watch out for special offers and two-for-one deals on products you regularly use, and stock up when your items are on special offer.


    NCA don't make the terms and conditions for the coupons.

    Infact they don't do much for the consumer, but that's another days work:rolleyes:

    This if from the same part of the NCA's website that you have quoted
    "Be cautious about two-for-one offers - consider when you might use the second item and if it is suitable for home-freezing." Ha ! The good aul NCA :)


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    #80
    hairyairyfairy
    Registered Users Posts: 365 ✭✭hairyairyfairy


    how will i ever fit the bloody persil in the freezer??? :confused:


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    #81
    Tirabaralla
    Registered Users Posts: 2,422 ✭✭✭Tirabaralla


    vicwatson wrote: »
    I agree 100%

    The coupon should be invalid if there is another offer or promotion on the product and you try to use the coupon.

    The fact that staff take them and don't care is not the point, the fact remains that that part of the terms and conditions means they are not valid if there is another offer or promotion on that particular good.

    In reality what happens is that the checkout assistant could not be a*sed checking to see if the product is on offer or not, with so many products for sale and offers changing they don't have a clue what's on offer or not, once the coupon passes the beep test then away with you.

    But if someone does check it, and they know what's on offer, I think they would be within their rights not to accept the coupon.

    Sorry but this sounds a bit silly as a reason why...
    If your manager tells you not accept coupons for products on offer you will not, you could maybe once or twice because you don't wanna check, but not on a regular basis, unless you don't need your job.

    So it's OBVIOUS that that is the policy of the stores,not of the single cashier. Or hundreds of them in hundreds of places, in different companies under hundreds of managers.
    Even more, I am sure that there is a way to develop a system that invalidates the coupon when you try and use it on an already discounted item... but now we are going into a sci-fi field of shopping rules lol

    Anyway...less sabotage and more couponing? Pretty please? :)


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    #82
    Access
    Registered Users Posts: 2,359 ✭✭✭Access


    ...Access stands in the corner of the room watching the fur and claws fly from this heated discussion - all the time remaining quiet! :D


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    #83
    Access
    Registered Users Posts: 2,359 ✭✭✭Access


    hairyairyfairy wrote: »
    how will i ever fit the bloody persil in the freezer??? :confused:

    DOH! - do what i did and take out the frozen peas hairyairyfairy! :D


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    #84
    vicwatson
    Registered Users Posts: 28,403 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Tirabaralla wrote: »
    Sorry but this sounds a bit silly as a reason why...
    If your manager tells you not accept coupons for products on offer you will not, you could maybe once or twice because you don't wanna check, but not on a regular basis, unless you don't need your job.

    So it's OBVIOUS that that is the policy of the stores,not of the single cashier. Or hundreds of them in hundreds of places, in different companies under hundreds of managers.
    Even more, I am sure that there is a way to develop a system that invalidates the coupon when you try and use it on an already discounted item... but now we are going into a sci-fi field of shopping rules lol

    Anyway...less sabotage and more couponing? Pretty please? :)


    Anyway...less sabotage and more couponing?
    :confused: The thread title states "Chit Chat Thread", and I'm chit chatting about whether or not coupons should be strictly used within their terms and conditions or not.
    Sorry but this sounds a bit silly as a reason why...
    If your manager tells you not accept coupons for products on offer you will not, you could maybe once or twice because you don't wanna check, but not on a regular basis, unless you don't need your job.

    Maybe the policy by management/store owners is to take them unless they don't beep through the system, but I think that the majority just scan them through and don't bother checking, thousands of products etc....

    The fact that staff take them and don't care is not the point (and/or whether management/store owners allow them on products already on offer or promotion), the fact remains that that part of the terms and conditions means they are not valid if there is another offer or promotion on that particular good, according to the people that issue the coupons in the first place.
    ...Access stands in the corner of the room watching the fur and claws fly from this heated discussion - all the time remaining quiet! biggrin.gif

    Not a heated discussion, though I know you are joking, it's just really to get to the bottom of the position one might find themselves in at the supermarket next time, potentially an embarrasing situation ;)


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    #85
    Access
    Registered Users Posts: 2,359 ✭✭✭Access


    vicwatson wrote: »
    Not a heated discussion, though I know you are joking, it's just really to get to the bottom of the position one might find themselves in at the supermarket next time, potentially an embarrasing situation ;)

    Its so heated, ive switched off the central heating here! :D


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    #86
    imfml
    Registered Users Posts: 466 ✭✭imfml


    Hi all,

    Just back from holidays, and having gotten involved in the couponing thread a couple of months ago, I'm very impressed to see a new forum, a newspaper article and alot of interest on my return!! Well done :)

    I have been searching high and low on the internet to contribute here, but I can't find anything new to ad. I have also been in touch with Centra customer service about my local store not accepting a Goodfellas coupon, hopefully they will change their policy, until then, Tesco are great for taking them, and at self check out it's so quick and easy to scan coupons without causing anyone a delay.

    Perhaps we should get organised, and as a group all email one or two companies per week and ask for coupons. If we all emailed the same company/ies on the same weeks, & they receive 100+ emails or so in a week, they would take notice, and perhaps issue a coupon for a month or so for Boarders!?

    An idea might be to start with Irish companies, making products which no coupons exist for, e.g. C&C or TK for fizzy drinks, or Shellfish De La Mer for seafood. Just an idea, any thoughts?

    Hope this chat forum lives long and thanks for the logs too, good for ideas!


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    #87
    donnacha
    Registered Users Posts: 2,245 ✭✭✭donnacha


    so were any of ye on the tom dunne show earlier? he was doing a slot of couponing but I missed it ...


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    #88
    mrswalton
    Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭mrswalton


    Seems he was bumped off TomDunne to appear later in the week. Missed it on East Coast later.


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    #89
    dextero
    Registered Users Posts: 126 ✭✭dextero


    The supermarkets dont loose out by taking coupons with offers so why would they care. It brings people into their stores who, if they are like me, end up buying plenty of full priced stuff at the same time. win win for them.


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    slave1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,678 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


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    #91
    Binka
    Registered Users Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Binka


    imfml wrote: »
    Perhaps we should get organised, and as a group all email one or two companies per week and ask for coupons. If we all emailed the same company/ies on the same weeks, & they receive 100+ emails or so in a week, they would take notice, and perhaps issue a coupon for a month or so for Boarders!?

    An idea might be to start with Irish companies, making products which no coupons exist for, e.g. C&C or TK for fizzy drinks, or Shellfish De La Mer for seafood. Just an idea, any thoughts?

    I'd be up for that! Who would we target first?


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