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Do you trust Bill Gates?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,701 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Ah the same old 'guff' and 'grifters' to trying to incorrectly build a false connection of BillyGates with actual 'hard chip' insertion

    lol


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,276 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    He is constantly hailed as a healthcare expert on COVID-19, even though his expertise is software development.

    By whom is he "hailed as a healthcare expert"?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭punchdrunk


    watch his documentary on netflix, the man devours books on every subject, he carries around a canvas bag of about 15 books at any one time and the man ain't reading "PS I LOVE YOU" he's vastly knowledgeable on a great many subjects.
    he has an intellect on a par with or exceeding most doctors and scientists but he still hires the best experts in all fields for his projects.

    he's not perfect, he was a bit of a dick in his early years but recently he's done so much for humanity and we reward him with this nonsense!


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,701 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    punchdrunk wrote: »
    watch his documentary on netflix, the man devours books on every subject, he carries around a canvas bag of about 15 books at any one time and the man ain't reading "PS I LOVE YOU" he's vastly knowledgeable on a great many subjects.
    he has an intellect on a par with or exceeding most doctors and scientists but he still hires the best experts in all fields for his projects.

    he's not perfect, he was a bit of a dick in his early years but recently he's done so much for humanity and we reward him with this nonsense!

    A certain fringe seem to require a boogeyman/anti-christ, apparently Gates fits that

    Literally one of the most charitable harmless people on the planet. These are not smart people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Hoop66 wrote: »
    By whom is he "hailed as a healthcare expert"?
    By himself generally.
    The self-appointed 'global vaccine man' is just that.

    Throwing money can certainly get anyone in that position, is a major funder behind GAVI, id2020 and plenty of medical (rather medi-tech) soloutions and patents.

    With decades of programming and technologies behind him, this is where the nerdy chaps core interests still actually are. Just before resigning from Miscrosft earlier this year, they patented in-body crytpocurrency, a nightmarish use of blood gloucose and body generated energy to mine blockchain on the fly.

    Then there is the Quantum Dot Tatto he's considering adding to 7bn vaccines, essentially an (advanced) barcode lashed, on(into) the arms of every citizen on the planet, dressed up as an an immunity cert.



    Apart from that he's grand.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,718 ✭✭✭Cordell


    He's pushing vaccines because he listens to healthcare experts, that doesn't make him one of them. Same if he invests in health related technologies, this makes him an investor, not an expert.


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    By himself generally.
    The self-appointed 'global vaccine man' is just that.

    Throwing money can certainly get anyone in that position, is a major funder behind GAVI, id2020 and plenty of medical (rather medi-tech) soloutions and patents.

    With decades of programming and technologies behind him, this is where the nerdy chaps core interests still actually are. Just before resigning from Miscrosft earlier this year, they patented in-body crytpocurrency, a nightmarish use of blood gloucose and body generated energy to mine blockchain on the fly.

    Then there is the Quantum Dot Tatto he's considering adding to 7bn vaccines, essentially an (advanced) barcode lashed, on(into) the arms of every citizen on the planet, dressed up as an an immunity cert.



    Apart from that he's grand.

    Hey, can you show where he's declared himself an expert on vaccines? He defers to experts on the subject if anything. In terms of quantum dot tattoos, he's invested in research into it which isn't remotely nefarious. Also invested in research on loads of other possible ways to approach the issue.

    The research you're referring to is in incredibly early stages. So even if quantum dots became a thing, they're five years plus away. Also the focus seems to be primarily focused on developing countries where immunisation records simply aren't kept. So the focus isn't even 7 billion people....

    Meanwhile id2020 is entirely separate to the above. It's focused on id, pilot programmes exist. Using things such as fingerprints, iris scans and qr codes. Not quantum dots as you're claiming. If your argument had any merit, it wouldn't be so reliant on invention.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭gar32


    He wants to use children in the next Phase of the COVID-19 vaccine trail. The death rate of children from Covid-19 is statistically Zero. Why risk children in a vaccine trail when they don't need the vaccine?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭gar32


    Also people think he gives his money to charity. Look at his wealth growth over time. He is creaming it in from all angles.

    https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-businessmen/richest-billionaires/bill-gates-net-worth/


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    gar32 wrote: »
    He wants to use children in the next Phase of the COVID-19 vaccine trail. The death rate of children from Covid-19 is statistically Zero. Why risk children in a vaccine trail when they don't need the vaccine?

    Children will be participating in trials but once again. Nothing to do with Gates... Children also will need to be vaccinated, they can be carriers even if it doesn't hit them badly.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,223 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    gar32 wrote: »
    He wants to use children in the next Phase of the COVID-19 vaccine trail. The death rate of children from Covid-19 is statistically Zero. Why risk children in a vaccine trail when they don't need the vaccine?
    None of that is true.
    :confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭gar32


    There is no need for a vaccine. The antibodies tested in the worse hit towns in Germany where 57%. Most people who got it did not even know. It is spreading now again all over the EU but as people are healthier in Summer it is mild or even unnoticed. Gates himself in interview said safety of vaccine trail will not be good as it is being done so fast.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,701 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    gar32 wrote: »
    Also people think he gives his money to charity.

    He does. So far about $50 bn. He's also encouraged other billionaires to give away their wealth to charity (around 200 at least count)

    A lot of blatant disinfo about this online, here's a straight-forward fact-check
    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/06/11/fact-check-bill-gates-has-given-over-50-billion-charitable-causes/3169864001/#:~:text=Gates%20is%20a%20noted%20philanthropist,billion%20to%20charity%20since%201994.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,223 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    gar32 wrote: »
    There is no need for a vaccine. The antibodies tested in the worse hit towns in Germany where 57%. Most people who got it did not even know. It is spreading now again all over the EU but as people are healthier in Summer it is mild or even unnoticed. Gates himself in interview said safety of vaccine trail will not be good as it is being done so fast.
    Source?
    Just making it up?


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,701 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    gar32 wrote: »
    There is no need for a vaccine.

    There is. Jesus christ.


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    gar32 wrote: »
    There is no need for a vaccine. The antibodies tested in the worse hit towns in Germany where 57%. Most people who got it did not even know. It is spreading now again all over the EU but as people are healthier in Summer it is mild or even unnoticed. Gates himself in interview said safety of vaccine trail will not be good as it is being done so fast.

    Once again, you're making stuff up. Locations have started to reenter lockdown in the past few days. Bill Gates did not say the vaccine would be unsafe. Places such as Sweden which are the worst hit in Europe are nowhere near herd immunity.

    So yes there is a need for the vaccine and you should try to backup your points rather than spouting things that are made up.

    The town you're referring to is one of the worst hit places in Italy. Deaths rates were 568% the norm.. That's an argument for a vaccine, also still not herd immunity even at 57%.


    https://m.dw.com/en/coronavirus-tests-show-half-of-people-in-italys-bergamo-have-antibodies/a-53739727


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭gar32


    King Mob wrote: »
    Source?
    Just making it up?

    A quick google & bang

    https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-tests-show-half-of-people-in-italys-bergamo-have-antibodies/a-53739727

    Also in Germany the same antibody found.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,223 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    gar32 wrote: »

    Ok. And how do you get from that to the idea that we don't need a vaccine?

    Are you a doctor?
    An expert in virology maybe?

    Or did you just read stuff on the internet to come to this conclusion?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭gar32


    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/we-call-investigations-bill-melinda-gates-foundation-medical-malpractice-crimes-against-humanity

    I am not making up things just bring you info I can not put in court but is out there.

    No smoke without fire and all.


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    gar32 wrote: »
    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/we-call-investigations-bill-melinda-gates-foundation-medical-malpractice-crimes-against-humanity

    I am not making up things just bring you info I can not put in court but is out there.

    No smoke without fire and all.

    Half a million people signing a petition is meaningless. Like there's millions of Americans who believe in QAnon. You yourself have posted numerous untruths in this thread with no source.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭gar32


    https://www.bitchute.com/video/PuY6jzvuRb3i/

    Interview from a very respected Doctor who said no to corruption.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,223 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    gar32 wrote: »
    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/we-call-investigations-bill-melinda-gates-foundation-medical-malpractice-crimes-against-humanity

    I am not making up things just bring you info I can not put in court but is out there.

    No smoke without fire and all.

    Well no, many people believe bizarre and unfounded things without any evidence, without good reason and completely contradictory to logic.

    So again, you claimed that we don't need a vaccine for corona virus.
    What lead you to this conclusion?

    Did you as a qualified expert in a relevant field conduct extensive research?
    Or did you just read some stuff on the internet?


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    gar32 wrote: »
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/PuY6jzvuRb3i/

    Interview from a very respected Doctor who said no to corruption.
    Erm, she's not respected at all so once again lying. She's most well known for discredited claims....

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judy_Mikovits


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,223 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    gar32 wrote: »
    Doctor who said no to corruption.
    Who I'm sure isn't profiting off their "maverick" views at all. :rolleyes:

    So again, it's looking like you came to the conclusion that vaccines aren't needed because you watched some youtube videos.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭gar32


    Also the math's gives me the idea we don't need a vaccine. 7.8 Billion people in the world with Deaths (Most old people close to death Sad I know but true) 436,297 Deaths (Fake news)


    Deaths in the world
    0.0065% of the population.

    Deaths from fast tracked vaccine best case 1 in a Million.

    Better off with no vaccine.

    Simple math people :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,223 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    gar32 wrote: »
    Also the math's gives me the idea we don't need a vaccine. 7.8 Billion people in the world with Deaths (Most old people close to death Sad I know but true) 436,297 Deaths (Fake news)


    Deaths in the world
    0.0065% of the population.

    Deaths from fast tracked vaccine best case 1 in a Million.

    Better off with no vaccine.

    Simple math people :)
    No source for any of this at all.

    Again, what qualifications do you have?
    What research have you done?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Take your pick of vested (technological, and potential revenue streams):


    ii) While at MicroSoft the filed a patent for in-body ^blockchain mining (ideal for the digital cashless future, and a good transaction earner). Essentially uses your own body (blood sugars, and energy) as a digital wallet processor. https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606

    Patents filed in 2019 and 2020. Gates left Microsoft in what, 2008? Satya Nadella has been running the place for some time now.

    And, the team at MS filed an application in March. This means nothing - it may or may not be granted.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭gar32


    King Mob wrote: »
    Who I'm sure isn't profiting off their "maverick" views at all. :rolleyes:

    So again, it's looking like you came to the conclusion that vaccines aren't needed because you watched some youtube videos.

    If you know anything about the lady you would not even suggest she is profiting for what she has done !!!!

    She is a shining star in the cesspool of so call medical experts pushing phara on to us not healthy living !!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,223 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    gar32 wrote: »
    If you know anything about the lady you would not even suggest she is profiting for what she has done !!!!

    She is a shining star in the cesspool of so call medical experts pushing phara on to us not healthy living !!!!
    Lol. This is a bit on the pathetic side.

    Why should we believe some random lone expert?
    Why is she immune from being corrupt?
    How do you know that she isn't just making false claims for profit?

    Again, plenty of quacks and cranks like her make comfortable livings making similar claims to what she claims.
    Her being an "expert" is a handy marketing tool.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    gar32 wrote: »
    He wants to use children in the next Phase of the COVID-19 vaccine trail. The death rate of children from Covid-19 is statistically Zero. Why risk children in a vaccine trail when they don't need the vaccine?

    So, where did you get your qualification in immunology? Because it seems like you actually don't know anything about vaccines, vaccine trials or immunity if you post sh1te like the above.

    I'd give it up. You're in over your pointy head.


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