No Plastic campaign

Nikki Sixx wrote: »

So that the government could make some money out of it.

Why can't the Gov get any credit in this country?

We have been very progressive in some things, such as the plastic bag tax, the smoking ban and gay marriage.

They didn't put €0.05 on a plastic bag to make money. They did it to stop people getting a new one willy nilly every time they went shopping. It was way ahead of its time, there wasn't a debate about plastic the way there is now.

You had the choice to pay the tax or not, I'm sure it didn't raise much money from it.

Plastic packaging and single use plastic has taken off in a way that's totally unsustainable over the last 15 to 20 years, people are coming to realise this now. People are also realising that the "recycling" industry isn't exactly what people imagine either

I think the plastic bag levy was a piece of legislation we should be very proud of as a country.

More needs to happen in terms of our use of single use plastics. It is a sad thing that anytime anything is done which is for the long term betterment of society, it is viewed with cynicism by many and such voices are often loudest.

Fruit sitting in plastic cases, plastic drinks bottles, straws (where there is some action) and take-away coffee cups should also see similar levies in my view. In an ideal world, the money raised from such a levy would go towards environmentally focused initiatives.

There are many things which we could all do in order to try to limit our impact on the environment in terms of what we buy and use but it seems that the sad reality is that it needs legislation before actual meaningful change is seen (see plastic bag levy and smoking ban as examples in this respect).

The "No Plastic" view isn't a bandwagon, it's a reality that people are awakening to but sadly, not fast enough.

my3cents wrote: »

I've mentioned this before and that is that some of the retailers that make the biggest deal about recycling are the worst at supplying goods in plastic that is not recyclable. LIDL claim to recycle 100% of the waste in their stores yet I suspect 99% of all the plastic that goes out of their shops with their customers is not recyclable.

Its obviously cheaper for LIDL to have its stock packed in plastic that can't be recycled.

There is so much hypocrisy at play in today's world it can be very depressing.

Sky cycling team spent last year advocating for reduced plastic use.



Next year, they will have a new sponsor, Ineos, one of the worlds largest petrochemical companies. A massive market segment of the petrochemical industry is the manufacture of plastics.

John_Rambo wrote: »

But it does end up in the sea. Then it ends up in fish, then it ends up in humans and the animals we eat.



No, you either don't understand or you're being obtuse here. Reduction in the use of one off plastics will reduce the amount of plastic being dumped.




Look. you're the one that started this thread with questions and you're getting answers. People are making an effort to explain things in simple terms so you can understand. Did you just start the thread to troll people or are you genuinely interested?

I'm part of a nationwide beach clean up group. PM me if you want to join up with one of the clean ups and I can school you in person. You'll see for your self what's being washed up and how old some of the plastics are.

Good luck with that.

Meanwhile in some good news announced by Guinness/Diageo.



Drinks giant Diageo has announced that it is removing plastic from multipacks of its Irish stout brand Guinness.

Plastic ring carriers and shrink wrap will be also removed from packs of Harp, Rockshore and Smithwick's beers, as part of Diageo's £16m initiative.

The change will be phased in with multi-can packs sold in "100% recyclable and biodegradable cardboard" in Ireland from August this year.

The new packaging will then be used in the UK and globally next year.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47926399

I recently read that, more or less, every single piece of plastic ever made still exists. Plastic objects may perish and break, rendering them useless, (then replaced by more plastic) but they will remain in landfill or somewhere. Very few are burned they all still exists. I’m trying to reduce my plastic use but it’s hard. I firmly believe we must sll start. The oceans are full of plastic waste. It’s very unsettling when you look at the irreversible damage we have done and are continuing to do. I think it’s very scary.

Lisha wrote: »

I recently read that, more or less, every single piece of plastic ever made still exists. Plastic objects may perish and break, rendering them useless, (then replaced by more plastic) but they will remain in landfill or somewhere. Very few are burned they all still exists. I’m trying to reduce my plastic use but it’s hard. I firmly believe we must sll start. The oceans are full of plastic waste. It’s very unsettling when you look at the irreversible damage we have done and are continuing to do. I think it’s very scary.

True apparently.

And heard another stat recently that of all the plastic that has been made in the world ever, half of it has been made since mid-1980s.

Shows you how much disposable crap we made in the last few decades.

Nikki Sixx wrote:

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You're correct, people don't throw plastic in the sea.
It blows in from the land.