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JFK Assassination Autopsy Details Revealed After 55 Years

  • 24-11-2018 11:42pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭


    Pathologist James C. Jenkins was one of four doctors who did an autopsy on JFK body after it got moved to Bethesda Naval Hospital.

    He hasn't spoken of what he saw till now.

    Key points he highlighted.

    The body was in a crappy Vietnam like a casket when it arrived. He body was therefore removed from the brown casket that was unloaded off airforce one.

    He noticed the skull has been operated on before it got there. He noticed incisions in the skull.

    He said the head wound he witnessed could not have resulted from a gunshot from behind. It was would only result from a gunshot from the right front.

    The autopsy reports are not accurate.

    Video just uploaded day or yesterday.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 686 ✭✭✭Terrlock


    Fascinating Interview.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    Terrlock wrote: »
    Fascinating Interview.

    Yep, one of the four doctors who saw the body confirms the conspiracy. He said the fatal shot came from the right front. That is the direction of the overpass and grassy knoll.

    He also said there was no back head wound. The autopsy report is fake. He said there is also a wound in the throat area.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    I wonder just speculation on this could they have removed bullet fragments from the skull to cover up the calibre of the bullets used?


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,058 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Yep, one of the four doctors who saw the body confirms the conspiracy. He said the fatal shot came from the right front. That is the direction of the overpass and grassy knoll.

    He also said there was no back head wound. The autopsy report is fake. He said there is also a wound in the throat area.

    Why is he coming out after 55 years? What's his motivation? How do we know what he's saying is correct or true? 55 years is an awfully long time to be recalling events accurately.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Why is he coming out after 55 years? What's his motivation? How do we know what he's saying is correct or true? 55 years is an awfully long time to be recalling events accurately.

    A friend of his an author approached him and asked him to detail his account in a new book. He testimony was given at the Warren Commission but nobody has seen that transcript. It under lock and key.

    Maybe others involved in the event have said the same thing.

    He going to remember doing an autopsy on JFK. He likely shared this with others he knows but not the public.

    The magic bullet theory is nonsensical anyhow. How does a bullet zigzag through different bodies and turn in the air?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 686 ✭✭✭Terrlock


    The mere fact they they conceal documents and evidence from the public causes me to be suspicious of they're motives behind doing that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    Terrlock wrote: »
    The mere fact they they conceal documents and evidence from the public causes me to be suspicious of they're motives behind doing that.

    Exactly people seem to have forgotten when the JFK files were going to fully released last year. The CIA and FBI stepped in and told Trump thousands of files cannot be released for national security reasons. Trump agreed and classified thousands of files again till 2025.

    Oswald was the only person who did the killing if you believe that. Oswald before he could stand trial was murdered in public by a mobster.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,413 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Why is he coming out after 55 years? What's his motivation? How do we know what he's saying is correct or true? 55 years is an awfully long time to be recalling events accurately.

    His theories would be decent if there wasnt a video of the assassination which clearly debunk his claims.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    The Nal wrote: »
    His theories would be decent if there wasnt a video of the assassination which clearly debunk his claims.

    He was one of four doctors who did the JFK autopsy a theory nope.

    The Zapruder film clearly shows an impact from the right front.




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    According to Nal and the Warren Commission the bullet impacted the back of the skull and exited out the right side.

    The video does not show a bullet hitting the back of the skull.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,713 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Jesus it looked like the side of his face exploded? What was the large mass on his face?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    Jesus it looked like the side of his face exploded? What was the large mass on his face?

    Bone Tissue and blood splatter? Probably hit with a high impact velocity bullet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,713 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    I don’t know much about the history but he was obviously shot twice?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭ligerdub


    He going to remember doing an autopsy on JFK. He likely shared this with others he knows but not the public.

    The magic bullet theory is nonsensical anyhow. How does a bullet zigzag through different bodies and turn in the air?

    The magic bullet is no fantasy. The only plausible explanation for Connolly being shot in the back, through the lungs, smash his wrist and then lodge into his leg is that he was shot from behind and from quite high up, and this can be traced back to pretty much Oswalds perch/working area. There's just no way he can get those specific wounds from anywhere else but there, and there's almost no chance he could get hit there without also hitting Kennedy en route. There's no zigzag required, just so long as the bullet doesn't hit bone.

    I'm not a great believer in the likelihood of a shot from the front, and a shot from behind is much easier than a shot from the side amongst the crowd of people.

    The bullets used are likely to have been frangible bullets, which will create wounds inconsistent with a normal gunshot wound.

    Having said all that this isn't a new revelation re: the doctors overseeing the body. Several doctors who worked on JFK have said the same thing over the years, about the wounds they saw, the likely point of entry, and the position of the wounds.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    I don’t know much about the history but he was obviously shot twice?

    Least two times yes he was hit. Maybe three?.

    Both gunshots are disputed. Oswald allegedly fired three shots and missed one

    James Tague was also hit by bullet fragments not widely known this by the public today. He testified the shots came from the grassy knoll area.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Tague

    The Warren Commission states one shot hit Kennedy in the back ( its called the magic bullet) it caused multiple injuries to Kennedy and Connelly who sat in front of him. The bullet was later found in almost pristine condition at the hospital lol if you believe that.

    The second shot entered the back of the skull according to the Warren Commission and it was the fatal shot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    ligerdub wrote: »
    The magic bullet is no fantasy. The only plausible explanation for Connolly being shot in the back, through the lungs, smash his wrist and then lodge into his leg is that he was shot from behind and from quite high up, and this can be traced back to pretty much Oswalds perch/working area. There's just no way he can get those specific wounds from anywhere else but there, and there's almost no chance he could get hit there without also hitting Kennedy en route. There's no zigzag required, just so long as the bullet doesn't hit bone.

    I'm not a great believer in the likelihood of a shot from the front, and a shot from behind is much easier than a shot from the side amongst the crowd of people.

    The bullets used are likely to have been frangible bullets, which will create wounds inconsistent with a normal gunshot wound.

    Having said all that this isn't a new revelation re: the doctors overseeing the body. Several doctors who worked on JFK have said the same thing over the years, about the wounds they saw, the likely point of entry, and the position of the wounds.

    Nobody has ever claimed there was no shooter firing shots from behind. The conspiracy is there were multiple shooters in different locations

    There also dispute how many bullets were fired. Oswald rifle only had three bullets.

    The magic bullet was found in almost untouched condition with no blood or tissue on it.

    Grassy knoll was completely devoid of people on the pathway below. You should look at the photographs. Grassy Knoll is an elevated point above ground perfect for a head shot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    John Connelly disputes the Warren Commission findings in this video. His wife says he was hit by a second bullet after Kenndy touched his throat.

    4.15 they discuss it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭ligerdub


    Nobody has ever claimed there was no shooter firing shots from behind. The conspiracy is there were multiple shooters in different locations

    The area itself is a natural crossfire right enough, and indeed there is a possibility that shots could have come from the side and behind (and I suppose the front). The thing is though, is that if the shots that hit Kennedy and Connally were the same bullet (almost certainly the case) and from an elevated position from a building behind the motorcade (definitely if the same bullet), then it pretty much stamps the fact that shots were fired from high and behind, and they injured both men. There's no such corroborating evidence relating to shots coming from anywhere else.
    There also dispute how many bullets were fired. Oswald rifle only had three bullets.

    Three bullets have been accounted for, there's no evidence of any more bar what people thought they heard. Also, without being callous, 3 shots, especially when one was in the head, was all that was needed. Likely scenario, 1st shot took a ricochet and smashed off the path near Tague, who was hit with fragments, the 2nd shot hit both Kennedy and Connally, then the 3rd and final shot hit Kennedy in the head, killing him.
    The magic bullet was found in almost untouched condition with no blood or tissue on it.

    That's a misunderstanding, and a perception when only viewing the bullet from one side. When viewed into the base of the bullet you can clearly see it was significantly warped.
    Grassy knoll was completely devoid of people on the pathway below. You should look at the photographs. Grassy Knoll is an elevated point above ground perfect for a head shot.

    There were people in the vicinity, if not behind the fence. The area is not that big. People ran towards the fence after the shooting. No shells were found and no shooter was seen. Are we expected to believe that somebody would carry out such an act in public, at near ground level, and then getaway without being seen or leaving any evidence? It's almost ludicrous.

    The shot itself could have been fired from there, but in the absence of any evidence, and taking into account the near certainly that the shot that had just hit Connally had more than likely come from the TSBD or a nearby building, then the most logical conclusion is that that's where all the shots came from.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    ligerdub wrote: »
    The area itself is a natural crossfire right enough, and indeed there is a possibility that shots could have come from the side and behind (and I suppose the front). The thing is though, is that if the shots that hit Kennedy and Connally were the same bullet (almost certainly the case) and from an elevated position from a building behind the motorcade (definitely if the same bullet), then it pretty much stamps the fact that shots were fired from high and behind, and they injured both men. There's no such corroborating evidence relating to shots coming from anywhere else.



    Three bullets have been accounted for, there's no evidence of any more bar what people thought they heard. Also, without being callous, 3 shots, especially when one was in the head, was all that was needed. Likely scenario, 1st shot took a ricochet and smashed off the path near Tague, who was hit with fragments, the 2nd shot hit both Kennedy and Connally, then the 3rd and final shot hit Kennedy in the head, killing him.



    That's a misunderstanding, and a perception when only viewing the bullet from one side. When viewed into the base of the bullet you can clearly see it was significantly warped.



    There were people in the vicinity, if not behind the fence. The area is not that big. People ran towards the fence after the shooting. No shells were found and no shooter was seen. Are we expected to believe that somebody would carry out such an act in public, at near ground level, and then getaway without being seen or leaving any evidence? It's almost ludicrous.

    The shot itself could have been fired from there, but in the absence of any evidence, and taking into account the near certainly that the shot that had just hit Connally had more than likely come from the TSBD or a nearby building, then the most logical conclusion is that that's where all the shots came from.

    Warren Commission tried to replicate the magic bullet trajectory and damage and they could not do so. There bullets tests can be found online. Every bullet was deformed in their tests. The magic bullet which allegedly hit Kennedy was found in almost pristine condition at the hospital with a few cracks at the top of the bullet. It just mysteriously just appeared and was not found, in the car Kennedy and Connelly travelled in.

    The death sheet showed the back wound was near the third thoracic vertebrae. Warren commission moved that wound up 6 inches to the neck so it would exit the throat area. The manipulated early findings the doctors found.

    Least 4 shots were fired it explains all the injuries Kennedy and Connelly received. The 4 shot probably came from the grassy knoll or the underpass.

    There was also a crack on the windshield of the limo. Men in suits were caught changing the front window at the hospital. We have photo evidence of this.

    There were many reports more bullets were found but those reports got killed off and never heard about again. Deputies reported on the day a 45 calibre bullet was found but that story disappeared shortly after the killing. Deputy Roger Craig claimed they found a Mauser rifle, not the Carcano belonging to Oswald. He saw Mauser 7.65 on the rifle recovered by Dallas police. There lot of oddities with the JFK event that you find there during a cover-up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,058 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    The Zapruder footage actually shows his head going forward on impact by the bullet to the back of the head. Then violently moves backwards as the explosion of the exit wound makes his head lurch back.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,413 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Grassy knoll was completely devoid of people on the pathway below. You should look at the photographs.

    Why don't you look at the photos? Clearly people on the steps. People who didn't react to a hire powered rifle firing 6 to 10 feet from their heads. Why didn't they react? They actually move closer to the picket fence.

    Mary Moorman photo

    Frame+From+Muchmore+Film.jpg


    Orville Nix film


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    The Zapruder footage actually shows his head going forward on impact by the bullet to the back of the head. Then violently moves backwards as the explosion of the exit wound makes his head lurch back.

    Warning below:




    Closeup_312-313.gif

    You won't find one conspiracy nut who can explain this. Because it can't be explained by a shot from the front. Its physically impossible. How can a shot from the front make his head move forward initially? And if it was a shot from the front right, the exit wound would have to be at the rear left of hi head, which it clearly wasn't.
    According to Nal and the Warren Commission the bullet impacted the back of the skull and exited out the right side.

    The video does not show a bullet hitting the back of the skull.

    No, it shows an exit wound that could only have been caused by a bullet from behind him.

    How can his head go forward, splatter go forward and there be an exit wound on the right from a shot from the right front?!

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    The Nal wrote: »
    Why don't you look at the photos? Clearly people on the steps. People who didn't react to a hire powered rifle firing 6 to 10 feet from their heads. Why didn't they react? They actually move closer to the picket fence.

    Mary Moorman photo

    Frame+From+Muchmore+Film.jpg


    Orville Nix film





    You won't find one conspiracy nut who can explain this. Because it can't be explained by a shot from the front. Its physically impossible. How can a shot from the front make his head move forward initially? And if it was a shot from the front right, the exit wound would have to be at the rear left of hi head, which it clearly wasn't.



    No, it shows an exit wound that could only have been caused by a bullet from behind him.

    How can his head go forward, splatter go forward and there be an exit wound on the right from a shot from the right front?!

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    This image I post in a minute could show the other shooter? Many Eyewitnesses are on video describing a shot coming from this very spot in the image. By the way, the Warren Commission never interviewed them and got their version of what happened.

    Some of those eyewitnesses ignored by the Warren Commission.




    The image isn't great it just brightened to remove the dark shadowing. Where i circled in red could be a man standing with a rifle in the air about to leave. It looks like he's wearing a police hat or worker hat of some kind. I could be wrong on this and seeing something in the image that not there?

    I spotted this in the image. The photo description doesn't say anything about what I am seeing!

    466939.png

    Kennedy was leaning to the left after the second shot. You can see it hit his head near the temple area just near the right ear. That in line with a right front shot. The bullet would likely shatter in the skull and not exit from the other side. You can see even in your own images there no blood splatter at the back of the head.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    Source for this photo is here https://www.today.com/news/jfk-grassy-knoll-photo-fails-sell-auction-2D11599940

    It might actually be a raw negative an original


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,413 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    This image I post in a minute could show the other shooter?

    Heres a higher quality pic of the same image a fraction of a second before the headshot. Theres no one there.

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    Heres a pic I took behind the fence on the knoll. Notice the people on the steps in about the same position as the 3 men in 1963, the car is in the same position as it was for the headshot.

    Those people are about 6 foot away from me. Theres no way they wouldn't notice someone shooting a gun from that close. Not a hope.

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    People don't understand the physics of Dealey Plaza. The knoll looks a lot bigger on the Nix and Hughes films and the Moorman photo as they're all taken from a distance. Its actually not that big and very close to the road.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    The Nal wrote: »
    Heres a higher quality pic of the same image a fraction of a second before the headshot. Theres no one there.

    2qbhtt2.png

    I still see the person standing behind the picket fence with a rifle in the air.

    You can even see the picket fence top portion is lower than the image in the photo. The person is looking over it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,413 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    I still see the person standing behind the picket fence with a rifle in the air.

    You can even see the picket fence top portion is lower than the image in the photo. The person is looking over it.

    Look at my photo above. The fence is below shoulder height.

    As for the Moorman photo, thats just at the moment of impact for the headshot, yet the shooter is sticking the rifle up into the air and about to leave? How did he shoot JFK in the head if the gun is pointing into the sky?

    Ill repeat again, there is no way that someone fired a gun so close to the 3 men on the steps, or Zapruder for that matter, without them noticing, never mind them walking backwards towards the gunfire.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    To me, that image looks higher than the picket fence. It looks like a figure of a person with a rifle in his right hand probably moving away after firing the shot? Could be wearing a hat of some kind?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    The Nal wrote: »
    Look at my photo above. The fence is below shoulder height.

    As for the Moorman photo, thats just at the moment of impact for the headshot, yet the shooter is sticking the rifle up into the air and about to leave? How did he shoot JFK in the head if the gun is pointing into the sky?

    Ill repeat again, there is no way that someone fired a gun so close to the 3 men on the steps, or Zapruder for that matter, without them noticing, never mind them walking backwards towards the gunfire.

    You can see the head portion towering over of the top part of the fence. So clearly it's a different image and not the picket fence.

    When he fired the shot, he going to reposition his body and lift the rifle so naturally, it points up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,413 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Not sure where Im supposed to be looking? He would need to be about 8 foot tall. Just looks like a gap in the trees to me. The Nix movie has been enhanced and shows no one there too.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    The Nal wrote: »
    Not sure where Im supposed to be looking? He would need to be about 8 foot tall. Just looks like a gap in the trees to me. The Nix movie has been enhanced and shows no one there too.

    No, he wouldn't. How big the planks are is what matters. From the base to top what the height we know then?

    He could also be standing on something behind the fence to rise his position?


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