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Major faux pas for FM104

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  • 14-06-2021 4:32pm
    #1
    TheLonelyOne
    Registered Users Posts: 141 ✭✭


    Unbelievable behaviour from two grown men. How they felt it necessary to mock a 4 year old child with special needs in incomprehensible.


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    [Deleted User]
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    Just going to add a link to this, in case people want to follow the story, because I don't know the context and it's very difficult to glean that -- even from Twitter -- without listening to the broadcast.

    Here's the Twitter link anyway, for what it's worth

    https://twitter.com/KellieSocialist/status/1404351467679629315?s=20


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    #3
    TheLonelyOne
    Registered Users Posts: 141 ✭✭TheLonelyOne


    Utterly shameful that they would behave in this manner.

    Has anyone got a like to the audio please?


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    fits
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    TheLonelyOne wrote: »
    Utterly shameful that they would behave in this manner.

    Has anyone got a like to the audio please?

    It was never made available when show ended. They know they are in hot water over it.


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    RoryMac
    Registered Users Posts: 5,080 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    I'd have to hear it before I'd pass judgement, doesn't sound good from the mother's side of the story


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    KildareP
    Registered Users Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭KildareP


    Didn't hear it but would like to before judging anything.

    They are deleting tweets and replies on the main FM104 account without making any mention and one of the presenters in question has made their twitter account private.

    Seems like they're going to ground which is not a good look either way.

    Edit: Statement on website:
    https://www.fm104.ie/news/fm104-news/statement-fm104-issues-statement-on-kids-in-the-car/


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    #7
    TheLonelyOne
    Registered Users Posts: 141 ✭✭TheLonelyOne


    The question is how far is too far?

    Is this two grown men slagging off a child (which is never acceptable) or could it be seen as a form of bullying?

    I would also think if the audio has not been made available, it would be seen as a sign of incompetence on the station's part.


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    volchitsa
    Registered Users Posts: 7,000 ✭✭✭volchitsa


    TheLonelyOne wrote: »
    The question is how far is too far?

    Is this two grown men slagging off a child or could it be seen as a form of bullying?

    It’s two grown men bullying a child, and one with a slight disability as well.

    It’s unbelievable


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    doc22
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    ah, it probably wasn't that bad and more a case of forced fake laughter and banter persona of hosts in the morning going to far.Funny before social media this would have passed unnoticed.


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    Kaybaykwah
    Registered Users Posts: 3,083 ✭✭✭Kaybaykwah


    doc22 wrote: »
    ah, it probably wasn't that bad and more a case of forced fake laughter and banter persona of hosts in the morning going to far.Funny before social media this would have passed unnoticed.



    Plenty of stuff was acceptable a while back that isn’t anymore. Two grown men, that if they acted like bullies in school toward a 4 year old is pretty unpalatable.
    I'd like to hear the audio evidence to make sure.


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    Padre_Pio
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    volchitsa wrote: »
    It’s two grown men bullying a child, and one with a slight disability as well.

    It’s unbelievable
    doc22 wrote: »
    ah, it probably wasn't that bad and more a case of forced fake laughter and banter persona of hosts in the morning going to far.Funny before social media this would have passed unnoticed.

    It's not even worth speculating without the audio.


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    [Deleted User]
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    These things are usually a lot of nothingness, so I won't be getting too worked up.


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    [Deleted User]
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    Padre_Pio wrote: »
    It's not even worth speculating without the audio.
    Well, not worth speculating, no. But a statement has been made, and it's not sufficient for the station just to delete/ omit to broadcast the material.

    I have no idea who is right or wrong. The station needs to respond to this, comprehensively.


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    #14
    [Deleted User]
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    They’re admitting they made a “mistake”

    https://www.fm104.ie/news/fm104-news/statement-fm104-issues-statement-on-kids-in-the-car/

    While I’ve never listen to that show it appears it’s a generally lighthearted banter type slot where they interact with young people - I’d doubt any malice was intended on behalf of the presenters but obviously one has to be Uber careful these days as to what constitutes “humour”- parents also have a responsibility letting their 4 year old contribute to a show that may have had a history of lampooning or jesting the callers messages


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    [Deleted User]
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    They’re admitting they made a “mistake”

    https://www.fm104.ie/news/fm104-news/statement-fm104-issues-statement-on-kids-in-the-car/

    While I’ve never listen to that show it appears it’s a generally lighthearted banter type slot where they interact with young people - I’d doubt any malice was intended on behalf of the presenters but obviously one has to be Uber careful these days as to what constitutes “humour”- parents also have a responsibility letting their 4 year old contribute to a show that may have had a history of lampooning or jesting the callers messages




    Yeah I have to be honest, I am getting the impression that there's a bit of "this show is funny because the jokes are funny, but don't make jokes about me, because that's not funny".


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    Faugheen
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    I know people are saying we shouldn't speculate etc.

    However if they thought they did nothing wrong, they wouldn't hold back the audio. It's clear something was said that crossed the line.

    Special needs or no special needs, the idea of two grown adults mocking a four year old child's voice isn't something that sits well with me anyway.


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    [Deleted User]
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    Padre_Pio wrote: »
    It's not even worth speculating without the audio.

    Is well worth speculating seeing as it must be bad enough they’re hiding it.

    In this day and age how much of an idiot do you have to be to go down that route though? Did they think nobody would mind? People are offended by far less these days.


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    frozenfrozen
    Registered Users Posts: 7,878 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    Is well worth speculating seeing as it must be bad enough they’re hiding it.

    In this day and age how much of an idiot do you have to be to go down that route though? Did they think nobody would mind? People are offended by far less these days.

    there's a difference between bad enough to hide it and stopping causing any further harm


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    [Deleted User]
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    frozenfrozen wrote: »
    there's a difference between bad enough to hide it and stopping causing any further harm

    And it’s a fairly good bet which one they care about.


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    TheLonelyOne
    Registered Users Posts: 141 ✭✭TheLonelyOne


    Deleted User wrote: »
    They’re admitting they made a “mistake”

    https://www.fm104.ie/news/fm104-news/statement-fm104-issues-statement-on-kids-in-the-car/

    While I’ve never listen to that show it appears it’s a generally lighthearted banter type slot where they interact with young people - I’d doubt any malice was intended on behalf of the presenters but obviously one has to be Uber careful these days as to what constitutes “humour”- parents also have a responsibility letting their 4 year old contribute to a show that may have had a history of lampooning or jesting the callers messages

    So now parents need to monitor the innocence of their kids when calling a radio station for fear of presenters slaying them?


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    [Deleted User]
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    TheLonelyOne wrote: »
    So now parents need to monitor the innocence of their kids when calling a radio station for fear of presenters slaying them?

    Exagerate and twist my words as you wish - your post reminds me of “outraged from Tunbridge Wells”


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    TheLonelyOne wrote: »
    So now parents need to monitor the innocence of their kids when calling a radio station for fear of presenters slaying them?
    There's a theory in political science which refers to the 'falling piano'. What it means is that any minority that is especially afraid of being pilloried or mocked (symbolised by a piano dangling over their heads, hence the name) is intrinsically disrespected, and they tend to shy away from any kind of public exposure. It's a pretty regressive situation for everyone.

    You ask a very good question. Why should any parent take special care, if their child has a disability, against grown men lampooning them? Why should these children not be part of the good humour that (I assume) was afforded to eveyone else?

    I've seen the FM104 statement. More information is needed. Parent probably doesn't want this re-broadcast, so it's probably one for the B.A.I. to determine.


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    Neg10
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    Given the personalities involved, it’s not a huge shock they’d sink to this low level. Didn’t one of the pair try to pull off another presenters hair at an awards ceremony a few years back?

    “Banter” is alive and well


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    archfi
    Registered Users Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭archfi


    Neg10 wrote: »
    Given the personalities involved, it’s not a huge shock they’d sink to this low level. Didn’t one of the pair try to pull off another presenters hair at an awards ceremony a few years back?

    “Banter” is alive and well

    I wondered who that was, Niall Boylan (the injured party) made a public post about it but didn't name the goon.
    Still don't know which one it was!

    The issue is never the issue; the issue is always the revolution.

    The Entryism process: 1) Demand access; 2) Demand accommodation; 3) Demand a seat at the table; 4) Demand to run the table; 5) Demand to run the institution; 6) Run the institution to produce more activists and policy until they run it into the ground.



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    #25
    The One Doctor
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    Radio DJs are not known for their intelligence or discrimination.


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    Speak Now
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    The One Doctor wrote: »
    Radio DJs are not known for their intelligence or discrimination.

    In the past a radio DJ was able to keep a show going solo. It's seems to be all double acts now (sometimes a trio) who spend all their talking time with the bantz and laughing at each others "jokes".


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    joe40
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    Speak Now wrote: »
    In the past a radio DJ was able to keep a show going solo. It's seems to be all double acts now (sometimes a trio) who spend all their talking time with the bantz and laughing at each others "jokes".

    Off topic but I remember Larry Gogan talking about starting out as a young DJ where he would have to submit transcripts of his show in advance. Some changes in radio.


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    #28
    [Deleted User]
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    Kellie Sweeney -+activist and former people before profit candidate posted this earlier - her tweet bellow may point more to where the truth lies in this story


    https://twitter.com/KellieSocialist/status/1404368444066340868?s=20

    They rang to apologize....but not really because apparently they didn't consciously or unconsciously mock my child it was the what's app audio they were referring too. I guess people can decide for themselves when they listen back. I know how those comments made me feel.


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    #29
    frozenfrozen
    Registered Users Posts: 7,878 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    Ah is that dollar signs or euro signs above her head now


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    #30
    [Deleted User]
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    frozenfrozen wrote: »
    Ah is that dollar signs or euro signs above her head now

    Because of?

    Have you got more information or have you just decided that now based on who she is?


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    #31
    TheLonelyOne
    Registered Users Posts: 141 ✭✭TheLonelyOne


    Even to firstly attempt to apologize via WhatsApp is pathetic.

    Originally Posted by frozenfrozen
    Ah is that dollar signs or euro signs above her head now

    Such a narrow minded comment to make. :mad:
    I am sure she is more concerned about her child's welfare than any financial compensation.


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