Ethiopian Airlines Crash/ B737MAX grounding

RiseToMe · 10-03-2019 9:45am #1

Reports that an Ethiopian Airlines plane with 157 souls on board has crashed en route to Nairobi

http://news.sky.com/story/ethiopian-airlines-plane-with-157-people-on-board-crashes-11660677

Comhrá · 10-03-2019 9:52am

ET302, a four-month old Boeing 737-8 MAX, reg ET-AVJ.

https://www.jetphotos.com/registration/ET-AVJ

tnegun · 10-03-2019 10:01am

Flight radar last has it climbing at 8600ft, flight only lasted 4 minutes.

Cloudio9 · 10-03-2019 10:05am

tnegun wrote: »

Flight radar last has it climbing at 8600ft, flight only lasted 4 minutes.

Another Max. Surely not another lion air scenario.

tnegun · 10-03-2019 10:06am

Here's the FR link https://fr24.com/2019-03-10/05:41/12x/ETH302/1fc0cdb5 very sad for all involved

Brennus335 · 10-03-2019 10:09am

tnegun wrote: »

Flight radar last has it climbing at 8600ft, flight only lasted 4 minutes.

ADD is at just over 7,600ft, so it barely climbed at all.

TrustedApple · 10-03-2019 10:33am

Two nearly new 737 max crashed in the past few months something not right with these planes.

My thoughts are with the poor people on board

DopeTech · 10-03-2019 10:38am

Terrible news for the passengers families. Cannot imagine what they are going through now.

Looking at the flight radar, it looks as though another plane was flying in the opposite direction over it at the time it disappeared. It hardly crashed trying to avoid another plane?

monkeysnapper · 10-03-2019 11:12am

Sir Dosser wrote: »

Terrible news for the passengers families. Cannot imagine what they are going through now.

Looking at the flight radar, it looks as though another plane was flying in the opposite direction over it at the time it disappeared. It hardly crashed trying to avoid another plane?

I was thinking that ....

Plane was put into service in October which makes this worrying .

Gaoth Laidir · 10-03-2019 11:18am

TrustedApple wrote: »

Two nearly new 737 max crashed in the past few months something not right with these planes.

My thoughts are with the poor people on board

So you already know what caused this crash? Fair play...

Gaoth Laidir · 10-03-2019 11:21am

From avherald

The last transponder data were received from position N9.027 E39.153 about 21nm east of Addis Ababa at FL086. Terrain elevation at that point is 8130 feet MSL, FL086 corrected for QNH indicates the aircraft was flying at 8173 feet MSL at that position.

ASOT · 10-03-2019 11:29am

Just announced on sky news there's no survivors according to the state broadcaster.

TrustedApple · 10-03-2019 11:32am

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

So you already know what caused this crash? Fair play...

2 crashes with new planes in the past few months from the same family.

Its worrying I don't have a clue what happened but irs something that need to be looked at just like the 787 engine issues.

Again my thoughts are with the family's

jd · 10-03-2019 11:48am

RIP

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My partner was on ET302 a few months ago. It was the connection on to Nairobi for ET505 LAX-ADD when it had a stop in DUB

STB. · 10-03-2019 11:56am

This is the second one lost in the last few months. This plane was only registered in November.

Boeing may need to be issuing more than safety warnings for the 737 Max.

Mahony0509 · 10-03-2019 12:04pm

Eerily similar to Lion Air crash. Could see a grounding of the MAX fairly soon.

Larbre34 · 10-03-2019 12:27pm

I'd say a lot of blood just ran cold in the greater Seattle area.

If this is another Lion Air, i.e. an ultra-modern Aircraft's computer intervening in response to erroneous speed and attitude readings from its own systems and compensating with fatal flight control inputs, then its most serious and fundamental flight safety issue since the Airbus joystick input can of worms (AF447 etc)

May the victims today rest in peace.

Duane Dibbley · 10-03-2019 12:31pm

Very sad news. RIP

duskyjoe · 10-03-2019 12:35pm

Larbre34 wrote: »

I'd say a lot of blood just ran cold in the greater Seattle area.

If this is another Lion Air, i.e. an ultra-modern Aircraft's computer intervening in response to erroneous speed and attitude readings from its own systems and compensating with fatal flight control inputs, then its most serious and fundamental flight safety issue since the Airbus joystick input can of worms (AF447 etc)

May the victims today rest in peace.

Agree totally - as a sideline re your comment on AF447- the aircraft was fully serviceable.

A truer word re blood running cold in seattle this morn.

lfc200 · 10-03-2019 1:07pm

How many 737Max are in service now?
IF this was found or early evidence points to this being the same as Lion Air are we likely to see the plane grounded?

billy few mates · 10-03-2019 1:16pm

Larbre34 wrote: »

I'd say a lot of blood just ran cold in the greater Seattle area.

If this is another Lion Air, i.e. an ultra-modern Aircraft's computer intervening in response to erroneous speed and attitude readings from its own systems and compensating with fatal flight control inputs, then its most serious and fundamental flight safety issue since the Airbus joystick input can of worms (AF447 etc)

May the victims today rest in peace.

Might be something a lot simpler than that...

"last transponder data were received from position N9.027 E39.153 about 21nm east of Addis Ababa at FL086. Terrain elevation at that point is 8130 feet MSL, FL086 reported by the Mode-S Altimeter (which always measures to standard pressure 1013 QNH) corrected for QNH indicates the aircraft was flying at 9027 feet MSL at that position."

RIP to all involved...

FrancieBrady · 10-03-2019 1:27pm

lfc200 wrote: »

How many 737Max are in service now?
IF this was found or early evidence points to this being the same as Lion Air are we likely to see the plane grounded?

330 according to this.

http://www.b737.org.uk/sales.htm

Jude13 · 10-03-2019 1:31pm

"In a press conference the Ethiopian Airlines CEO stated that the pilot of #ET302 reported difficulties with the aircraft to ATC. He was given clearance to return to the airport."

IQO · 10-03-2019 1:38pm

https://twitter.com/ntvkenya/status/1104722491203833857

TheMilkyPirate · 10-03-2019 1:53pm

Is this the same plane Ryanair have 200 of starting delivery in spring? Or is it a different variation

VG31 · 10-03-2019 1:58pm

TheMilkyPirate wrote: »

Is this the same plane Ryanair have 200 of starting delivery in spring? Or is it a different variation

It's pretty much the same (737 MAX 200), just a higher density version with additional emergency exits because of that.

Blanco100 · 10-03-2019 2:07pm

duskyjoe wrote: »

Agree totally - as a sideline re your comment on AF447- the aircraft was fully serviceable.

A truer word re blood running cold in seattle this morn.

can i ask why Seattle?

Negative_G · 10-03-2019 2:08pm

Blanco100 wrote: »

can i ask why Seattle?

Home of boeing.

john boye · 10-03-2019 2:21pm

Negative_G wrote: »

Home of boeing.

Chicago these days

Comhrá · 10-03-2019 2:23pm

Company HQ is Chicago, aircraft are built in Seattle.

pummice · 10-03-2019 2:50pm

Irish passport holder on board. My thoughts go out to all involved.

Ethiopian Airlines Crash/ B737MAX grounding

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