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  • #62
    STB.
    Registered Users Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    tombrown wrote: »
    Yes, but, unfortunately, it also means RyanAir don't have to refund your flight, which is, I suspect, part of the reasoning behind that classification


    Any agreement made with a transport company is a private one. Nothing to do travel restrictions.

    Between people traveling so as not to lose an airfare and the people complaining about the schools closed and stuck with their kids at home, you would wonder if the message is getting through.

    150,000 infected. Approaching 6,000 dead.


  • #63
    Leroy42
    Registered Users Posts: 15,472 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    tombrown wrote: »
    Yes, but, unfortunately, it also means RyanAir don't have to refund your flight, which is, I suspect, part of the reasoning behind that classification

    Absolutely, 100% that is a large part of it.

    But it doesn't change the fact that people are actually considering travelling, simply so they don't 'lose' their money.

    I had family over from a foreign country recently and 1 got sick (just stomach pains etc). But the panic from being in a foreign country (for them), lack of access to health services (doctors wouldn't visit etc) and the worry about what to do if it was CV and would that mean all having to stay, only the sick person, etc. Etc.

    It crystallised to me that it simply wasn't worth it hassle and worry to travel. Being stuck at home is a PITA, but much better than being stuck away from home.

    If money on flights is all you lose then count yourself lucky. There are people going to die, going to get very sick, people will lose jobs etc etc. Missing a week or two hols is not really that big a deal.


  • #64
    Fireball81
    Registered Users Posts: 412 ✭✭Fireball81


    tombrown wrote: »
    Yes, but, unfortunately, it also means RyanAir don't have to refund your flight, which is, I suspect, part of the reasoning behind that classification

    That's when travel insurance can step in and cover you even if an airline does't cancel flights (in the case of places being designated 'avoid non essential travel').


  • #65
    Ginger83
    Registered Users Posts: 3,414 ✭✭✭Ginger83


    Fireball81 wrote: »
    That's when travel insurance can step in and cover you even if an airline does't cancel flights (in the case of places being designated 'avoid non essential travel').

    Most won't


  • #66
    tombrown
    Registered Users Posts: 454 ✭✭tombrown


    Just to be clear - I am NOT thinking of traveling "just to save the airfare". I came on here to ask advice & got it

    I am however a bit pissed off at potentially losing a load of money when I don't go because the DFA says "avoid non essential travel" and stops short of saying "do not travel" - though, hopefully, that will change. In the current situation, RyanAir is not obliged to cancel the flight & so is not obliged to refund the fare. Travel insurance falls down in two areas for me (1) I took it out after Covid was known about back in January, so apparently it was a known risk & cannot be insured against, (2) Even without (1) I don't believe they have to pay unless I have a certified medical reason not to travel (of which "avoiding Covid" is probably not one).

    Now the chances are Spain will become "Do not travel" and everything will be cancelled, and I can get money back from RyanAir and AirBnB. That is my hope

    Funnily enough the flights for all the family that cost me over €2000, I could now get for less than €800 ...


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  • #67
    coylemj
    Registered Users Posts: 25,308 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Fireball81 wrote: »
    That's when travel insurance can step in and cover you even if an airline does't cancel flights (in the case of places being designated 'avoid non essential travel').
    Ginger83 wrote: »
    Most won't

    'Most' :confused: How many travel policies have you studied?

    The answer is to read your policy. My AIG policy will cover me if the travel advice is to avoid 'non-essential' travel.


  • #68
    Sheep Shagger
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,199 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    Ginger83 wrote: »
    Most won't

    VHI multi trip does, havn't personally looked at the others.


  • #69
    Aint Eazy Being Cheezy
    Registered Users Posts: 4,629 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy


    Multi trip don’t, unless you purchased the Travel Disruption add on.


  • #70
    Cona
    Closed Accounts Posts: 591 ✭✭✭Cona


    Am supposed to travel as part of a large group in July. I know we’re in unchartered waters here, but what are e chances of travelling to the UK in July looking like?

    Haven’t been able to find any documents relating to how long this thing might be around for...


  • #71
    killbillvol2
    Registered Users Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭killbillvol2


    Cona wrote: »
    Am supposed to travel as part of a large group in July. I know we’re in unchartered waters here, but what are e chances of travelling to the UK in July looking like?

    Haven’t been able to find any documents relating to how long this thing might be around for...

    Nobody knows. If someone says they know, ignore them.


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  • #72
    Ginger83
    Registered Users Posts: 3,414 ✭✭✭Ginger83


    coylemj wrote: »
    'Most' :confused: How many travel policies have you studied?

    The answer is to read your policy. My AIG policy will cover me if the travel advice is to avoid 'non-essential' travel.

    Mine does not


  • #73
    downtheroad
    Registered Users Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭downtheroad


    Went online to change Ryanair flight after they announced they're waiving flight change fees. Found flights for August bank holiday weekend so went to book them, and they are substantially higher via the flight change option than they are if you buy them new. Great PR with the free flight change announcement and make the money back in a sneaky way.


  • #74
    coylemj
    Registered Users Posts: 25,308 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Ginger83 wrote: »
    Mine does not

    So that enables you to declare that 'most' policies won't provide that cover?

    As with motor insurance, the answer almost always is: 'read the policy'.


  • #75
    Ginger83
    Registered Users Posts: 3,414 ✭✭✭Ginger83


    coylemj wrote: »
    So that enables you to declare that 'most' policies won't provide that cover?

    As with motor insurance, the answer almost always is: 'read the policy'.

    No most policies will not pay out on an advised do not travel.

    It will just mean that many will still travel, myself included unless there is a travel ban.


  • #76
    andy125
    Registered Users Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭andy125


    Laya pays out on do not travel/non essential


  • #77
    killbillvol2
    Registered Users Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭killbillvol2


    Ginger83 wrote: »
    No most policies will not pay out on an advised do not travel.

    It will just mean that many will still travel, myself included unless there is a travel ban.

    No. 'Most' people will not travel to a country that has declared a state of emergency. 'Most' people are not stupid.


  • #78
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users Posts: 15,713 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    skinny90 wrote: »
    Yeah for me I don’t mind..we are avoiding all the party places.

    So you don't mind possibly not going to any restaurant or seeing any sights? Just deserted streets?

    People may not be that happy to see you on your return!


  • #79
    lcstress2012
    Registered Users Posts: 595 ✭✭✭lcstress2012


    Will you get the money back from flights if you cancel/if it doesn’t go ahead if you have or don’t have travel insurance. I have VHI health insurance but no travel.


  • #80
    Ginger83
    Registered Users Posts: 3,414 ✭✭✭Ginger83


    killbillvol2 wrote: »
    No. 'Most' people will not travel to a country that has declared a state of emergency. 'Most' people are not stupid.

    As i said many will


  • #81
    jmayo
    Registered Users Posts: 13,078 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    Ginger83 wrote: »
    I'm going and I've a terminal condition

    Fair enough you are not worried about yourself, but if you get covid19 you could end up suffering a lot more than you think.

    What about anyone traveling with you, what about anyone you are traveling to meet ?
    Ginger83 wrote: »
    kingshankly wrote: »
    What about the airport what about the plane what about bringing it over there
    What about going shopping :confused:

    I wonder what type of shopping you do?

    You are being either wilfully disingenuous or rather stupid if you think going out shopping is anywhere near risking the same level of exposure as turning up at an airport for a flight with queues of people from God knows where, spending a few hours in very close proximity with maybe over a hundred people in a tin can breathing recycled air, to be followed by further queues with even more people from God knows where at the destination airport.
    And then you have to probably take bus or taxi to get to final accommodation.

    I can't understand why anyone is willing to go through those risks.

    And then what happens even if you do get to the foreign holiday destination ?
    What happens if the authorities decide to quarantine you ?
    Will shops be open, will bars and restaurants be open, will any attractions be open ?

    What happens if you get sick and have to find medical treatment ?
    It is bad enough in your own country, but what will it be like when you may not have the language.
    Then again a lot of other countries have better health services, but this isn't the time to start testing them .


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  • #82
    njburke
    Registered Users Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭njburke


    downtheroad wrote: »
    Went online to change Ryanair flight after they announced they're waiving flight change fees. Found flights for August bank holiday weekend so went to book them, and they are substantially higher via the flight change option than they are if you buy them new. Great PR with the free flight change announcement and make the money back in a sneaky way.

    Same here, I have Lanzarote booked for a week on the 26th. I noticed it's cheaper to book new flights than change a flight to those same dates.
    To me that's the shaft, any date I select is dearer.
    I'm going to hold off changing flights until either the flight I've booked is canceled or someone cops on in Ryanair.


  • #83
    kingshankly
    Registered Users Posts: 7,521 ✭✭✭kingshankly


    Spain in lockdown party of me is delighted for the selfish gits that went in the first place 😈 but most of me wishes they stay safe 😇


  • #84
    HBC08
    Registered Users Posts: 3,280 ✭✭✭HBC08


    kingshankly wrote: »
    Spain in lockdown party of me is delighted for the selfish gits that went in the first place 😈 but most of me wishes they stay safe 😇

    Thankfully the decision has been taken out of the hands of irresponsible ****wits.


  • #85
    InPsyDer
    Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭InPsyDer


    I rang my insurer, AA, yesterday as I am booked on a flight to Spain next week. They were very clear on the point that if the DFA has said no non-essential travel, they WILL consider a claim for a refund of my flight. If my airline (Ryanair) ends up cancelling the flight that's fine I'll be reimbursed, but if not, I can claim on my insurance.

    They also said if I did choose to travel against the DFA advice I would NOT be covered by my insurance which is fair and exactly what I would expect. Will get the refund one way or another and stay home for now. Everyone's policies will differ of course but am just passing this on in case it's useful to other insured travellers.


  • #86
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users Posts: 15,713 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Malta not looking so good. A lesson here.

    https://lovinmalta.com/news/maltese-holiday-turns-into-nightmare-for-british-tourists-as-new-quarantine-reality-takes-them-by-shock/


  • #87
    nailer54321
    Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭nailer54321


    If you can claim back from your insurance there will be an excess charge per person pluse you will not be able to claim yoyr airport tax back from them either ,look closely at how your ticket os broken down and i bet the price of your ticket is very low so agter the excess its harly worth while claiming, then when you claim you airport tax there is also an admin fee for this so again very little gets returned to you. If the gov just came straight out and cancelled flughrs to certan countries or the airlines cancel them then you will be able to claim a full refunds hence only advsery notices, big difference in returns for the traveler.


  • #88
    InPsyDer
    Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭InPsyDer


    nailer54321 wrote: »
    If you can claim back from your insurance there will be an excess charge per person pluse you will not be able to claim yoyr airport tax back from them either ,look closely at how your ticket os broken down and i bet the price of your ticket is very low so agter the excess its harly worth while claiming, then when you claim you airport tax there is also an admin fee for this so again very little gets returned to you. If the gov just came straight out and cancelled flughrs to certan countries or the airlines cancel them then you will be able to claim a full refunds hence only advsery notices, big difference in returns for the traveler.
    It totally depends on individual policy. I added an excess waiver when I got the policy so no excess. The flights were €300 so definitely don't think it's hardly worth while claiming. Agree that it'd be better all round to have clear cut cancellations but I couldn't be happier I bothered getting travel insurance to be honest.


  • #89
    Fireball81
    Registered Users Posts: 412 ✭✭Fireball81


    From facebook:

    Important Notice: All Ryanair Group Flights to/from Poland Cancelled From Sunday 15 March To Tuesday 31 March.

    Affected customers will receive an email notification informing them of their options:


  • #90
    nailer54321
    Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭nailer54321


    How much are taxs or did the flight cost 300 plus tax


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  • #91
    downtheroad
    Registered Users Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭downtheroad


    njburke wrote: »
    Same here, I have Lanzarote booked for a week on the 26th. I noticed it's cheaper to book new flights than change a flight to those same dates.
    To me that's the shaft, any date I select is dearer.
    I'm going to hold off changing flights until either the flight I've booked is canceled or someone cops on in Ryanair.

    I made a complaint to the Advertising Standards Authority for Ireland so will see if anything comes of that.


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