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08-01-2018, 14:42   #16
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Hi Ford2600, any chance of sharing some of your routes, in West Waterford and would like to do some exploring, the link you posted is private thanks
As a local I forgot about a few private bits. One farmer is ok with bikes I just want to check with the other guy before routing strangers through his front yard.

I'll try and ride it in next few weeks. It's 137kms of fairly challenging cycling, there is no easy bit on it.

I'll post up once done
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09-01-2018, 13:22   #17
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There are some very interesting gravel roads off the Bohernabreena and Shankill roads (past Kilbride military base in Dublin mountains) at the moment they are mainly used by dirtbike (ie motorbike) riders but good fun on gravel bike. There are more gravel roads off the Gap Road, which rises over the Blessington lakes, but I haven't explored them yet.

Many sections of the Wicklow Way are fire road, but you have to skip some bits if you'e on a gravel bike and you don't want to walk. A fun but technical and dead end, road is the Moate road, a bog road that runs from the military road towards Kippure mountain but peters out into bog walking trail and doesn't quite link up with the Castlekelly bog road that rises out of the Glenasmole valley.

Further afield I did some enjoyable roads spins in the Sliabh Bloom mountains in Laois and Offaly last year. Due to getting lost we ended up doing quite a few dirt roads and I noticed a lot more off the 'Wolftrap' climb. Have always intended to go back with the gravel bike to explore furhter but haven't got around to it yet. I also believe, but haven't seen, that there is a large network of fire roads in the Silvermines mountain in Tipperary.

I think the ideal gravel spin is a mix of road and gravel, I wouldn't get too caught up about whether you have to use paved roads, as long as those roads are quiet. It's all exploring and a good gravel bike will be good both on paved and dirt roads.
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As a local I forgot about a few private bits. One farmer is ok with bikes I just want to check with the other guy before routing strangers through his front yard.

I'll try and ride it in next few weeks. It's 137kms of fairly challenging cycling, there is no easy bit on it.

I'll post up once done
Checked out a section of this today, meant to do more but forgot Garmin again; the section between Newcastle and Clogheen is magic, rideable singletrack/forestroads/once was tarmac.

Went off for a wander after that and found a lovely pedestrian bridge over the Tar, meant a few hardy bucks out open coursing, and found a few more bits of South Tipps lovely boreens.

The route I originally posted up, unintentionally passes where Liam Lynch
*had his last meeting as republican leader
*where he was shot
*the pub he was brought to before he died

If I can find another site or two and find a byroad into St Joseph's Hospital, where he died, I'll have to name spin after him

Can someone change thread tiltle; it's Ireland how about swapping cow****/mud for gravel?
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Seem to be loads around Glen of Aherlow, forests at foot of Galtees, Galbally and Ballyhouras, definite scope for a good spin there. Will try to put something together to try.
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Let me know if you're hosting a spin Ford 👍
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There's lots of forest/mine roads around the Avoca copper mines, from Avoca down to Arklow via Wodenbridge, and some spurs up to Barraniskey and Ballymoyle hill.

You'ld need to cross the town but then there's Glenart and either back to Woodenbridge or
then theres Croughan Kinsella mountain, loads of forestry roads, loops and the potential to to go via quiet roads to the back of the mountain with more forestry.



The area around the the Grand canal seems ripe for this, with the Canal towpath and the BnaM train lines clustered around
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The route I originally posted up, unintentionally passes where Liam Lynch
*had his last meeting as republican leader
*where he was shot
*the pub he was brought to before he died

If I can find another site or two and find a byroad into St Joseph's Hospital, where he died, I'll have to name spin after him
How about calling it the No Other Law

"We have declared for an Irish Republic and will live under no other law"
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http://threerockbooks.com/index.php/cycling-ireland/

This book is just out; I haven't got my hands on it yet but have seen a lot of the intended Munster routes. For lads who don't have time/inclination for picking out quite lanes it would be a great start.

Given the number of routes there is some work gone into this book I would think.

An occasional poster here mapped a 100km route in east Cork yesterday for me. 20km of good but quite tarmac, about 70km of "roads" which have seen much better days and 10km of gravel/earth/grass. The whole group of 9 were smiling ear to ear at finish; its the type of riding which adds the fun/smiling normally reserved for mtb riding
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thanks for sharing, just bought a copy as an early birthday present to myself!
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Ordered a copy for myself too, thanks for the link
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This thread seems to have died a death!

In the last 12 months or so of looking, it seems to me the best you can do in most parts of Ireland is combining back roads with primarily forestry roads. As @nihlg, bog roads might work to but I don't have them and haven't come across much of the on holiday locations, primarily in the west of country. The new network on real bo reens being built around country would be great to ride but can't see Irish dairy farmers being receptive to hordes of cx bikes!

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/28392568

Something like this which nearly 70km long, has about 17/18km of off road. It's a magical part of country and really quite off the regional roads. I haven't ridden the off road sections (brought wrong bike!!) but I'd be happy to give it a go when back up there.

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/28379355

56km with about 25km off road. I've ridden a lot of this quite regularly and again primarily off road is forestry ( the exception being military road on Clonmel/Rathgormack road) Not quite sure about 17.2km to 18.3km but its showing up on map.


Two things I've learnt on gear; tubeless is a must and discs would be nice almost as compulsory

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I'd widen this definition: medium-low tyre pressures are a must, which makes tubeless a must... You can get away with tubes running high pressure and a cast on wrists
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This thread seems to have died a death!

In the last 12 months or so of looking, it seems to me the best you can do in most parts of Ireland is combining back roads with primarily forestry roads. As @nihlg, bog roads might work to but I don't have them and haven't come across much of the on holiday locations, primarily in the west of country. The new network on real bo reens being built around country would be great to ride but can't see Irish dairy farmers being receptive to hordes of cx bikes!

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/28392568

Something like this which nearly 70km long, has about 17/18km of off road. It's a magical part of country and really quite off the regional roads. I haven't ridden the off road sections (brought wrong bike!!) but I'd be happy to give it a go when back up there.

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/28379355

56km with about 25km off road. I've ridden a lot of this quite regularly and again primarily off road is forestry ( the exception being military road on Clonmel/Rathgormack road) Not quite sure about 17.2km to 18.3km but its showing up on map.


Two things I've learnt on gear; tubeless is a must and discs would be nice almost as compulsory
thanks very much - I look forward to giving that one about Clonmel a go.
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For gravellers in the Dublin/Wicklow area, just some updates on my explorations over the past year.
There is a really good logging road, about 8 km over Sorrel Hill, near the Blessington Lakes,and another 7 km loop of logging roads in nearby Ballysmutten, which I've ridden since I posted here last. And to get there, there's a nice gravel road through the Glenasmole valley past Tallaght and another nice (but hard) gravel road that links the Ballinascorney and Kilbride roads. It's a roughly 60 km loop. Tough, with lots of climbing but good fun.

I hope my friend doesn't mind if I post the route that we rode on strava.

https://www.strava.com/activities/1722425241

Second favourite would be following the Wicklow Way route, starting at Kilmashogue, going over he top of Three Rock down onto Ballybetagh road, then over the next range of hills (the top is call Prince William's Seat, you can also follow the Wicklow Way but that involves a bit of hike a bike) and down onto Glencree Road, then follow the Wicklow Way across the valley and do the logging roads on the other side starting at Crone Woods.

Here's the route, roughly.

https://www.strava.com/routes/14641564

A bit further afield, I've recently ridden the fire roads at Balinastoe where the mountain bike trails are. They deposit you over the lakes at Lugalla, you can then take a left and then a right onto the Wicklow Way, which in this part is nice dirt road, which will take you near Lough Dan overlooking Roundwood. One interesting discovery I made during the year is that there is nearly a dirt road that connects this road with he military road, across the southern side of Lough Dan. Astonishingly beautiful but you have to walk for a bit where the dirt road becomes a walking trail called Logan's Way.

For short spins, Hell Fire Club and Massey's Wood and Cruagh Woods are a good combo.

Finally, I'll just repeat my opinion as expressed in the post above earlier this year. For me, at any rate, gravel riding should not shade into mountain biking, because then you have to use bike that is inefficient at road riding. So for me a good gravel ride involves decent roads kms as well as gravel. Use robust and wide but mostly slick tyres and pressure should not be too low. I favour 50-60 psi personally on my Cannondale Slate.

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There is a really good logging road, about 8 km over Sorrel Hill
Thanks for this one, must give it a go soon

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Lough Dan overlooking Roundwood. One interesting discovery I made during the year is that there is nearly a dirt road that connects this road with he military road, across the southern side of Lough Dan. Astonishingly beautiful but you have to walk for a bit where the dirt road becomes a walking trail called Logan's Way.
I made the same discovery this year - a truly stunning place! It's included it in this year's Weevil ride https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/show...5&postcount=60 and I think its one of its highlights
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