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New housing developments in Maynooth

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    #722
    you2008
    Registered Users Posts: 695 ✭✭✭you2008


    Hey all at Mariavilla


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    #723
    buffalo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,050 ✭✭✭buffalo


    OwlsZat wrote: »
    Is that Westfield? Looks like the PP decision is due 22/11/2022 but they've already started on construction?

    That's the one - where have you seen construction started?


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    #724
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,632 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    citylad74 wrote: »
    Naoise O’Cearuil organising a Zoom call on Tuesday at 7 on the proposed Mariavilla apartments- details over on the FB Maynooth notice boards.

    Without any planning files yet that's going to be nothing but a rant fest. I don't think there'll be anything available by tomorrow.

    edit: seems there will be absolutely nothing available by tomorrow so this is a pointless get-in-there-first attempt that will achieve nothing.


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    #725
    Scoundrel
    Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭Scoundrel


    L1011 wrote: »
    Without any planning files yet that's going to be nothing but a rant fest. I don't think there'll be anything available by tomorrow.

    edit: seems there will be absolutely nothing available by tomorrow so this is a pointless get-in-there-first attempt that will achieve nothing.

    You wouldn't be accusing Naoise of a pointless PR job would you? The pandemic has really affected Naoise now as he can't be photographed at the opening of an envelope anymore.


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    #726
    Staplor
    Registered Users Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭Staplor


    Scoundrel wrote: »
    You wouldn't be accusing Naoise of a pointless PR job would you? The pandemic has really affected Naoise now as he can't be photographed at the opening of an envelope anymore.

    Naoise can actually be seen from time to time, many can't.


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    #727
    Scoundrel
    Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭Scoundrel


    Staplor wrote: »
    Naoise can actually be seen from time to time, many can't.

    Unfortunately he can be heard as well.


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    #728
    marieholmfan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    Scoundrel wrote: »
    Unfortunately he can be heard as well.

    He may yet prove a worthy successor to Frank O'Rourke.


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    #729
    L1011
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    We had invisible Councillors last time (one in particular) but its not really an issue now.


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    #730
    Scoundrel
    Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭Scoundrel


    marieholmfan wrote: »
    He may yet prove a worthy successor to Frank O'Rourke.

    Oh good God I fear you may be right.


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    #731
    Carter D
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31 ✭Carter D


    EJC4711 wrote: »
    We’ve signed contracts on Lyreen Lodge.
    We were over there yesterday. The major delay on the houses at the back was a pipe had to be moved by Irish Water and that has now been done. Foundations are now in for the houses at the back.
    People were moving into the houses at the front over the past couple of days.



    Nice houses getting built around maynooth and kilcock areas. What did you go for 3 or 4 bed house ?
    Semi or detached?


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    #732
    OwlsZat
    Registered Users Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭OwlsZat


    EJC4711 wrote: »
    We’ve signed contracts on Lyreen Lodge.
    We were over there yesterday. The major delay on the houses at the back was a pipe had to be moved by Irish Water and that has now been done. Foundations are now in for the houses at the back.
    People were moving into the houses at the front over the past couple of days.

    Did you sign the clause removing your right to object to further planning changes requested by Southport New Homes to the site current planning in terms of number or type of houses? Sadly this seems to be the Kildare way of doing business. The green space beside the river looks primed for another 12+ houses which is a shame. I suppose if it's not apartments than it's maybe it's OK.


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    #733
    EJC4711
    Registered Users Posts: 14 ✭EJC4711


    Yeah the contract includes that clause. I doubt that they will get planning for any additional houses on that site, so I’m not bothered by the clause. The clause is pretty standard anyway.

    Even if the clause wasn’t there and I wanted to make a submission/objection, would it be taken into consideration by KCC?


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    #734
    Rulmeq
    Registered Users Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭Rulmeq


    EJC4711 wrote: »
    Yeah the contract includes that clause. I doubt that they will get planning for any additional houses on that site, so I’m not bothered by the clause. The clause is pretty standard anyway.

    Even if the clause wasn’t there and I wanted to make a submission/objection, would it be taken into consideration by KCC?


    In Ireland (and probably other countries), you can't sign away your rights. You can happily sign anything they want you to, and go right ahead and object.


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    #735
    squirrel6767
    Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭squirrel6767


    New fire station planned for Maynooth. New build/new location. Anyone know where it will be going?
    https://www.leinsterleader.ie/news/home/598625/kildare-fire-service-gets-allocations-in-new-funding-plans-announced-by-minister.html

    I hope a proper community plan is made for the whole area that is vacated, which is sizeable. Anyone know the ownership status of the adjoining lands around the Firestation / KCC depot?


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    #736
    wally79
    Registered Users Posts: 2,929 ✭✭✭wally79


    squirrel6767 wrote: »
    New fire station planned for Maynooth. New build/new location. Anyone know where it will be going?
    https://www.leinsterleader.ie/news/home/598625/kildare-fire-service-gets-allocations-in-new-funding-plans-announced-by-minister.html

    I hope a proper community plan is made for the whole area that is vacated, which is sizeable. Anyone know the ownership status of the adjoining lands around the Firestation / KCC depot?

    It doesn’t mention a new location in the article


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    #737
    social butterfly 2020
    Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭social butterfly 2020


    wally79 wrote: »
    It doesn’t mention a new location in the article

    Will be up near the Circle K petrol station.


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    #738
    social butterfly 2020
    Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭social butterfly 2020


    squirrel6767 wrote: »
    New fire station planned for Maynooth. New build/new location. Anyone know where it will be going?
    https://www.leinsterleader.ie/news/home/598625/kildare-fire-service-gets-allocations-in-new-funding-plans-announced-by-minister.html

    I hope a proper community plan is made for the whole area that is vacated, which is sizeable. Anyone know the ownership status of the adjoining lands around the Firestation / KCC depot?

    Owned by a private developer.


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    #739
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,632 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    There was a proposal from time immemorial (OK, the Tiger era) for a new road through from the Glenroyal, through the fire station site, and to a new opening on Parson Street - where the row of houses was getting ever more derelict until they were done up maybe 5 years ago. This would have provided the access to the substantial enough land bank there which is otherwise basically blocked off. There were no specific plans lodged for anything other than the new buildings and roadway on Parson Street as far as I remember, and those are long lapsed

    Since then, the fire access road across to the Glenroyal has been built and Leinster Street has been changed to a shared surface so they probably do not intend it to become the main access to any developments there - the Parson Street option is likely to resurface.

    I would expect - and hope - that KCC require a good standard of buildings and a sensible density for whatever is built on those lands, you aren't going to get that size of landbank in a town centre, beside a future DART station, and strolling distance of a university anywhere else.

    If you tie in the council depot (very questionable if that is going anywhere, though); the Louis Fitzgerald land and the site wrapping around the Garda station including the old Buckley house, its more than half the size of the existing town centre.


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    #740
    lordgoat
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    Perfect location for a community centre and town centre, my guess they will ram as many apartments as possible into it.

    Also a great chance to expand the care home and put in a shared/elderly living facility like the one in Naas for example.


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    #741
    citylad74
    Registered Users Posts: 24 ✭citylad74


    Did the ABP hearing due on 6 January go ahead on the plans of Cairn for a heap of apartments on the remaining strip of land in Mariavilla development on the Dunboyne road? Any outcome yet? Thanks for any info on this.


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    r93kaey5p2izun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    Is there anything planned for the piece of land behind Lidl and Barton's Transport, stretching over to Griffin Rath? What's the status of this land? Who owns it and how is it zoned? And has there been any planning permission sought for it?


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    #743
    L1011
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    Amiyah Nervous Froth wrote: »
    Is there anything planned for the piece of land behind Lidl and Barton's Transport, stretching over to Griffin Rath? What's the status of this land? Who owns it and how is it zoned? And has there been any planning permission sought for it?

    Phase II of Mullen Park. Planning secured.


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    #744
    ghostdancer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,539 ✭✭✭ghostdancer


    is that road still planned to join up with the road going through Griffin Rath?
    Will it only be joined/opened when all of the houses are built?


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    #745
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,632 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    The road is part of the planning requirements; in theory it should open before all the houses but that basically never happens.


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    #746
    L1011
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    Another few, no big estate movements yet:

    21/97 - 34 apartments above Greenfield S/C (more discussion on this in the shops thread)
    21/98 - 7 apartments above Bistro 53

    Cairn proposal hasn't yet gone to application and there's nothing much else in the obvious big development pipeline. There is planning expected for a social housing development at Old Greenfield / Fitzgerald Close too but it's not the same type of planning.


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    #747
    Nika Bolokov
    Registered Users Posts: 651 ✭✭✭Nika Bolokov


    Hello,

    Would anyone have a view on the Mullen Park development for a non local, the houses look lovely and the location convenient.

    However are nearby Griffin Rath residents complaining over a flood plain issue in that area?

    Any help or advice appreciated!!


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    #748
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,632 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Sections of the fields it was built on flooded in the past. There is apparently sufficient drainage and retention tanks to resolve this.

    It is likely that the next phase of the estate will be bought by a voluntary housing body - this is subtly different to being bought by the council as they significantly vet their tenants so it would not cause me any concern - but other peoples have differing opinions.


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    #749
    Nika Bolokov
    Registered Users Posts: 651 ✭✭✭Nika Bolokov


    L1011 wrote: »
    Sections of the fields it was built on flooded in the past. There is apparently sufficient drainage and retention tanks to resolve this.

    It is likely that the next phase of the estate will be bought by a voluntary housing body - this is subtly different to being bought by the council as they significantly vet their tenants so it would not cause me any concern - but other peoples have differing opinions.

    Thanks so much thats really helpful. Whats driving your knowledge ofnthe housing body buying the next phase? The agent hasnt been able to say when or if the next phase is launching alright.


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    #750
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,632 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Leaks from the county council, basically. They were considering buying the first phase, which is why it was nearly fully built before it went on sale

    The agent is never, ever, ever going to tell you even if they know for sure.


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    #751
    Nika Bolokov
    Registered Users Posts: 651 ✭✭✭Nika Bolokov


    L1011 wrote: »
    Leaks from the county council, basically. They were considering buying the first phase, which is why it was nearly fully built before it went on sale

    The agent is never, ever, ever going to tell you even if they know for sure.

    Thanks so much.


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