Mars by 2020?

Rubecula · 10-07-2017 2:40pm

very much so.

I can still remember the title of the first SCI FI book I ever read as a 8 year old.

"Kemlo and the Gravity Rays

Fathom · 10-07-2017 5:30pm

Jules Verne. Wrote science fiction. Fictional fantasies. Inspiring future quests. In plays and films. Encouraging others to experiment with reality.

Rubecula · 10-07-2017 5:43pm

first men in the moon etc, great story teller.

Fathom · 10-07-2017 5:58pm

Many Mars sci fi movies. Popular topic beginning with 1924 silent film Aelita to 2017 The Space Between Us.

Rubecula · 10-07-2017 8:41pm

I like thae Gary Sinese film but forgotten the title. ( Mission to Mars?) The Martian from a few months back is pretty good too.

Rubecula · 10-07-2017 8:56pm

Akrasia · 10-07-2017 9:04pm

Spacex are hoping to send a probe to Mars in 2020, using their Falcon Heavy boosters, and their first cargo mission to mars in 2024 with the first human mission 2 years later.

They've developed the 'interplanetary transport system' concept which will be launched and then refueled in orbit using a re-usable booster

http://www.spacex.com/mars

watch the video. It's ridiculously ambitious but also ridiculously cool

Fathom · 11-07-2017 3:42pm

SpaceX plans to generate methane on Mars for fuel.

Rubecula · 12-07-2017 11:55am

Fathom wrote: »

SpaceX plans to generate methane on Mars for fuel.

could feed the crew on sprouts

Fathom · 12-07-2017 7:21pm

SpaceX envisions self-sustaining Mars city. Plans Interplanetary Transport System between Earth and Mars. NASA has similar plans as SpaceX to generate fuel:

Rubecula · 13-07-2017 3:09am

wonder if going right to asteroids would be easier for fuel manufacture, but I doubt if I will be alive to find out as it is too far in the future.

Fathom · 14-07-2017 3:33pm

Capt'n Midnight · 15-07-2017 12:01am

Thanks to corporate welfare NASA have officially given up on Mars anytime soon. But that's good because some senators will get re-elected. And the money could have been wasted on healthcare or education instead of completely wasted on re-inventing off the shelf 1960's hardware, badly. :mad:

https://futurism.com/nasa-just-announced-they-cant-afford-to-get-humans-to-mars/

Essentially, the SLS rocket and Orion craft have cost the agency a lot. As a result, NASA hasn’t even been able to begin designing vehicles to land on Mars or ascend from the surface.

Fathom · 15-07-2017 5:43am

Discouraging report. Surprised that NASA still exists. Republicans want cuts. To allow for massive tax cuts for rich. Doubtful SpaceX, et al, will transport humans by 2020. Or years after. Research follows money. Including aerospace research.

Capt'n Midnight · 15-07-2017 10:40am

Fathom wrote: »

Discouraging report. Surprised that NASA still exists.

no surprise. It's there for pork barrelling and PR , they do some science too but that's a bonus.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-space-idUSKCN0WJ1YJ

Approving a plan submitted by Russian space agency Roscosmos in January, Medvedev ordered Russia's space program budget for 2016-2025 to be cut from 2 trillion rubles ($29.24 billion) to 1.4 trillion rubles.

This works out at $2.05 Bn a year.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-musk-subsidies-20150531-story.html

Tesla Motors Inc., SolarCity Corp. and Space Exploration Technologies Corp., known as SpaceX, together have benefited from an estimated $4.9 billion in government support, according to data compiled by The Times.

Fathom · 19-07-2017 4:17pm

What subsidies will exist for SpaceX and Mars in federal fiscal year beginning October 1, 2017?

Capt'n Midnight · 19-07-2017 10:40pm

This pork barrel just soaked up some military funds.

Total acquisition costs for Lockheed Martin Corp.’s next-generation fighter may rise about 7 percent to $406.5 billion,

Speaking of military funds ULA still has it's snout deep in the trough.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/06/air-force-budget-reveals-how-much-spacex-undercuts-launch-prices/

According to the Air Force estimate, the "unit cost" of a single rocket launch in fiscal year 2020 is $422 million, and $424 million for a year later.
...
That is a tad more expensive than the amount ULA would ever tell taxpayers they are paying for one of its launches, and it illustrates the extent to which those taxpayers are forced to subsidize ULA in order to maintain the fiction that it is a competitive private sector company.

Fathom · 21-07-2017 3:25pm

Trump had signed legislation adding Mars exploration to NASA's mission.

ScumLord · 21-07-2017 4:45pm

Fathom wrote: »

Trump had signed legislation adding Mars exploration to NASA's mission.

He'll probably ruin it by insisting it's a coal powered rocket.

Fathom · 21-07-2017 8:26pm

ScumLord wrote: »

He'll probably ruin it by insisting it's a coal powered rocket.

Cool joke ScumLord. Trump signed. But budget yet to be negotiated. Without money, Mars exploration for NASA is meaningless.

Capt'n Midnight · 21-07-2017 9:40pm

Fathom wrote: »

Cool joke ScumLord. Trump signed. But budget yet to be negotiated. Without money, Mars exploration for NASA is meaningless.

we've been here before. Bush 2004
https://www.nasa.gov/missions/solarsystem/bush_vision.html

"With the experience and knowledge gained on the moon," he said, "we will then be ready to take the next steps of space exploration: human missions to Mars and to worlds beyond."

Fathom · 23-07-2017 4:15pm

Does current administration watch Star Trek?

Rubecula · 23-07-2017 10:30pm

unlikely

maybe the parents did though

Fathom · 24-07-2017 8:21pm

Interesting timeline. Once-upon-a-time science fiction?

Fathom · 25-07-2017 5:04pm

Another NASA view of Mars exploration.

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Fathom · 26-07-2017 6:35pm

Mars 2020 rover weighs 2,314 pounds, 10 feet long, 9 feet wide, and 7 feet tall. About the size of a small compact-car.

Rubecula · 28-07-2017 1:54am

at 7 feet tall it is not that compact lol lol lol

ScumLord · 28-07-2017 1:01pm

Rubecula wrote: »

at 7 feet tall it is not that compact lol lol lol

If there are Martins up there they're going to start getting worried when they see this bad boy.

Capt'n Midnight · 28-07-2017 5:25pm

ScumLord wrote: »

If there are Martins up there they're going to start getting worried when they see this bad boy.

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Fathom · 28-07-2017 10:25pm

NASA plans to have humans on Mars during the 2030's.

Mars by 2020?

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