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Internet Addiction?

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,306 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    Fathom wrote: »
    Digital detox? Interesting concept.

    Back to landlines and teletext! :D


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,306 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    Black Swan wrote: »
    There are daily addiction advertisements on the telly, but they deal with drugs and alcohol, not Internet addiction. Makes me wonder when they will add the latest item to the addiction list?

    These things usually need something to bring them into the mainstream, or at least get the mainstream talking about it. It will most likely be some celeb that popularises it.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,223 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    mzungu wrote: »
    These things usually need something to bring them into the mainstream, or at least get the mainstream talking about it. It will most likely be some celeb that popularises it.
    Indeed. If past news media practices predict future, some celebrity or their child will have Internet addiction problems, and all of sudden it will be the rage to talk about.


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    Black Swan wrote: »
    Indeed. If past news media practices predict future, some celebrity or their child will have Internet addiction problems, and all of sudden it will be the rage to talk about.
    Anecdotal media sensationalized case study level examples rule.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,306 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    Black Swan wrote: »
    Indeed. If past news media practices predict future, some celebrity or their child will have Internet addiction problems, and all of sudden it will be the rage to talk about.
    Fathom wrote: »
    Anecdotal media sensationalized case study level examples rule.
    The interesting thing to note will be, does the internet get blamed for it? Eg. Rock music was blamed for social ills in the 80s and computer games were blamed in the 90s. IIRC both of them got the blame in the naughties. Will internet addiction be used as convenient fall guy for the social ills of the 2020s etc?


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    mzungu wrote: »
    Will internet addiction be used as convenient fall guy for the social ills of the 2020s etc?
    Interesting question/observation mzungu.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,223 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Fathom wrote: »
    case study level
    Obviously very little empirical value.


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    Black Swan wrote: »
    Obviously very little empirical value.
    What if longitudinal? Like medical cases. Or frequent small samples analyzed by SPC?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,306 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    Fathom wrote: »
    What if longitudinal? Like medical cases. Or frequent small samples analyzed by SPC?

    Might be the best way to go from here I would say. At this early stage, there are bound to be some big changes to theories of internet addiction as it becomes studied more.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,223 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Wallace's Wheel of Science inductive side: data to empirical generalisations to theory (or theory revisions).


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,306 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    Interestingly, the American Psychiatric Association have distanced themselves from 'social media addiction' or 'internet addiction' by not including it as a behavioural disorder in the current Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM). Instead they have it listed as a 'condition for further study.' They believe at this point it has not been studied enough, and that it rests largely on anecdotal evidence.

    https://www.medpagetoday.com/psychiatry/addictions/75194


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,223 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    "Intexticated is a term coined to refer to an individual who is distracted by texting or composing an email on a handheld device while walking or driving, and is therefore unaware of the surroundings."

    Saw an auto accident occur in a parking lot earlier this week where "intexticated" was the cause.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators, Regional South East Moderators, Regional North East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 8,990 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    Black Swan wrote: »
    "Intexticated is a term coined to refer to an individual who is distracted by texting or composing an email on a handheld device while walking or driving, and is therefore unaware of the surroundings."
    Student walked into me. Intexticated.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,223 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Fathom wrote: »
    Student walked into me. Intexticated.
    Behavior or addiction or both, a ubiquitous social condition.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,306 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    Black Swan wrote: »
    "Intexticated is a term coined to refer to an individual who is distracted by texting or composing an email on a handheld device while walking or driving, and is therefore unaware of the surroundings."

    Saw an auto accident occur in a parking lot earlier this week where "intexticated" was the cause.
    Fathom wrote: »
    Student walked into me. Intexticated.
    Black Swan wrote: »
    Behavior or addiction or both, a ubiquitous social condition.
    This kind of thing was called 'lack of cop on' back before phones were around! :D


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    mzungu wrote: »
    This kind of thing was called 'lack of cop on' back before phones were around! :D
    A rose...


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,223 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    To what extent is Internet addiction a social construction?


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    Nature vs nurture?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,306 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    I think the construct of internet addiction is undeveloped in academia, making a real world application of what it means to be addicted to the internet highly problematic. Without a sufficient theoretical base on which to draw out an applicable concept, it leaves one thinking that the boundaries between academic internet addiction and real world internet addiction being two works in progress. I say that because the addictive behaviours themselves may be a personality trait, and to draw a conclusion or even a reasonably informed guess at this stage is nigh on impossible.

    As to whether it is a social construct, there could be an argument made there alright. However, as noted above, at this point I would want a few more conclusive studies to enter into the public sphere and for those to be backed up my medical professionals on the ground.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,223 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    mzungu wrote: »
    I think the construct of internet addiction is undeveloped in academia, making a real world application of what it means to be addicted to the internet highly problematic. Without a sufficient theoretical base on which to draw out an applicable concept, it leaves one thinking that the boundaries between academic internet addiction and real world internet addiction being two works in progress.
    Excellent observation mzungu. Certainly an opportunity for researchers to investigate with rigour this problem and publish results for peer review.


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    Research problem with potential. And a future.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,223 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Fathom wrote: »
    Research problem with potential. And a future.
    Find RFP and reply? Try NIH or NSF.


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭aluminium


    As I said to a friend recently, you know you have too much time on your hands when you run out of things to look at on the internet.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,306 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    China has specified the definition and diagnostic standard for Internet addiction.
    Internet addiction refers to one exhibiting uncontrollable internet use without being affected by other addictive substances, said the document released by China’s National Health Commission last week.

    The symptoms of Internet addiction include academic, professional and social dysfunction following internet overuse, according to the document.

    The duration of addictive actions is a major criterion in diagnosing such a disorder, with symptoms having to have lasted at least 12 months.

    Link: https://www.thestar.com.my/news/regional/2018/10/05/definition-and-diagnosis-for-internet-addiction-specified/

    The article also mentions that adolescent Internet dependence in China is at 10% as opposed to 6% worldwide.

    A good point raised by one of the authors of the study (and raised in this thread by a few posters) was that Internet addiction is related to other psychological issues like anxiety and depression and its clinical treatment should also conform to the regulations of addressing those issues.

    I think those comments add weight to the claims that addictive behaviours existed prior to the devices and that the Internet label brings very little to the table.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,223 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    mzungu wrote: »
    I think those comments add weight to the claims that addictive behaviours existed prior to the devices and that the Internet label brings very little to the table.
    Indeed.


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    Addictive behavior as a concept. Internet addiction as one variable measuring concept.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,306 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    Fathom wrote: »
    Addictive behavior as a concept. Internet addiction as one variable measuring concept.
    Good point.

    Some more questionable assertions about internet addiction...
    When digital technology stops working, people with a fear of missing out (FOMO) -- the anxiety that you're missing a social experience others might be having while you're not online -- or an internet addiction have more extreme reactions, according to a new study in Heliyon.

    Would this not be the feeling you might get if you did not get tickets to a sold out concert, or had to take a rain check on a night out because of flu etc?


    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/11/181101133843.htm


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    mzungu wrote: »
    Would this not be the feeling you might get if you did not get tickets to a sold out concert
    Sold out concert phobia?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,223 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Fathom wrote: »
    Sold out concert phobia?
    Thomas Szasz, et al.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,306 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    Fathom wrote: »
    Sold out concert phobia?

    Had it once or twice! :D


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