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04-08-2018, 14:53   #1
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Domestic solar PV quotes 2018

Hi,

Thinking this might be a worthwhile information point and reference.

Good to get an idea of prices, and see if the recent grant is causing anomies etc.

If anyone cares to post up quotes they got (but excluding the company/supplier to keep mods happy).


We should show quote if system dimension, something along the lines of

4kw solar with 5kw battery and diverter 9,900 ex vat
5kw solar with 5kw battery and diverter 11,200 ex vat.

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This was for a "premium" solar panel with 30 year warranty.

Provider is seai registered, so grant is apicable, and he claims HRI/vat refund available also, however I believe thats an error.

Payment terms
20% on order
Additional 50% prior to install
Remaining 30% post commissioning


Quite for market standard panels as follows

4kw with 5kw battery 8750 ex vat
5kw with 5kw batter 9750 ex vat
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04-08-2018, 18:02   #2
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8 panels (320w).
2.56kw & 5kwh Storage
System cost to customer €5,400 plus VAT as end cost to customer.

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04-08-2018, 22:45   #3
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1.77 kw PV solar
€3,545 includes VAT

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1.8kw PV solar
€3980 Includes VAT - Existing customers with this well known company can avail of interest free credit with a 20% deposit

1.8kw PV solar with diverter
€4490 Includes VAT - Existing customers with this well known company can avail of interest free credit with a 20% deposit

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4kw PV with 5kwh storage for €9000 excluding VAT

4.8 PV with 5kwh storage for €9500 excluding VAT

8 x 320 Q Cell with 2.5 Kw Battery
Also 3.6 kw Prime inverter
Using 1 string you can add another 6/8 panels at a later date to a second string
€6500 plus vat installed and commissioned
6500 plus vat 877.50 =7377.50
2560 grant =2560
Balance €4817.50 includes VAT

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05-08-2018, 01:21   #4
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3 kw & 5kw of Storage €8,500 with €3,100 grant
8 panels 2.4 kw 5kwh Storage €7,500
System cost to customer €5,400 have finance in place
Can you confirm this includes VAT? I think someone else posted that the same company you are referring to has that quote plus VAT
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Original post updated.

Plus VAT for clarity.
Apologies I thought it was all in.

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This one has me confused as it looks too cheap.

4 kw PV Array with 3.6kw Hybrid Inverter
And 5KWh Battery €9000 +vat
With EDDI €9500 +vat
Both systems will attract €3800 grant

Based on those prices I have done the following maths
€9500 + 1215 = €10215 including VAT
€10215 - 3800(grant) = €6,415
€6415 - 1215(HRI scheme) = 5200

Or am I doing my maths wrong?
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This one has me confused as it looks too cheap.

4 kw PV Array with 3.6kw Hybrid Inverter
And 5KWh Battery €9000 +vat
With EDDI €9500 +vat
Both systems will attract €3800 grant

Based on those prices I have done the following maths
€9500 + 1215 = €10215 including VAT
€10215 - 3800(grant) = €6,415
€6415 - 1215(HRI scheme) = 5200

Or am I doing my maths wrong?
Sums are wrong as you will not be able to get anything from HRI scheme if you get the PV grant. That system will cost you €6415 (without diverter) .

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Also, if you have battery do you really need the eddi? Just use power from solar/battery to heat immersion.
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Also, if you have battery do you really need the eddi? Just use power from solar/battery to heat immersion.


According to company that is what the EDDI is for, to divert the electricity to the water.



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Sums are wrong as you will not be able to get anything from HRI scheme if you get the PV grant. That system will cost you €6415

I thought it was confirmed you could use the HRI as well to claim the VAT back?
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Also, if you have battery do you really need the eddi? Just use power from solar/battery to heat immersion.


According to company that is what the EDDI is for, to divert the electricity to the water.



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Sums are wrong as you will not be able to get anything from HRI scheme if you get the PV grant. That system will cost you €6415

I thought it was confirmed you could use the HRI as well to claim the VAT back?
Solar will top up battery first and then hot water tank. When there is juice in the battery just flick the switch on the immersion to heat.
Not sure you would get the benefit of having battery and water diverter. I'd go one or the other form of storage.

If you get the solar grant you will have to reduce the HRI refund by three times the value of the solar grant. This means the HRI refund will be zero euro.

https://www.revenue.ie/en/property/h...ax-credit.aspx

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Solar will top up battery first and then hot water tank. When there is juice in the battery just flick the switch on the immersion to heat.
Not sure you would get the benefit of having battery and water diverter. I'd go one or the other form of storage.

If you get the solar grant you will have to reduce the HRI refund by three times the value of the solar grant. This means the HRI refund will be zero euro.

https://www.revenue.ie/en/property/h...ax-credit.aspx
Sorry I will other thread for questions, better to keep this ontrack for pricing only

Good information on the HRI....a few people I know included the reduction in that

Still 6500 is good for system

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Out of interest, why are companies quoting ex. VAT prices to the public?
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Out of interest, why are companies quoting ex. VAT prices to the public?
It makes their prices sound cheaper.
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Company 1 (not SEAI listed, including diverter & vat)

7 x 270w : €3,900
6 x 300w : €4,100

2.5 kWh battery €6k extra

There's an additional charge for flashing/hooks instead of drilling.

This company say that they'll be listed very soon and are taking deposits for work on that basis.

Company 2 (SEAI listed):

7 x 300w : €4,500 + vat
battery approx €2k extra
flashing/hooks only - no drilling

Company 3 (SEAI listed)

8 x 275w : €4.5k
300w panels €35 extra per panel
€450 additional for diverter
Only flashing/hooks, no drilling

Company 4 (not SEAI listed)

7 x 290w: approx €3.5k - €5k

drilling is the default approach. They are offering a FIT.

Given that the SEAI listed companies that I've quotes from are coming in at €500 more that an offer by a certain large utility company, I'm giving serious consideration to going with their interest free offer of 6 x 300w panels and diverter for €4490 including vat less grant with 20% down and 36 months of payments.
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Out of interest, why are companies quoting ex. VAT prices to the public?

They would have done that before the grant because it was given that you would use HRI to get VAT back......
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