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14-02-2020, 08:01   #2281
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Depending on the mod in question, of course, and whether they are bit rude and/or lazy!
Contacting mod is first point of call.

If you have encountered a rude or lazy mod, then you obviously havent resolved your issue, so DR is next step..

Can we draw a line under this now.
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14-02-2020, 11:26   #2282
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I live in Scotland, the mountain rescue are always out and about, fair enough this particular crowd were particularly inept with the trainers etc. but at least they used that app to draw attention. In the summer they repeatedly have to take people down who are stuck due to darkness falling and not giving themselves enough time. Often those folk are just wearing gym gear too.
I agree, the Scottish mountains are dangerous because the weather conditions can change very quickly so setting out in sunshine can result in whiteout conditions at the summit.

But set out to climb Ben Nevis in the middle of one of the biggest winter storms of the year is, as you say, particularly inept.
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Unpopular opinion? People should just drop them here and no discussion or debate. They're unpopular opinions. Post thanks can say it all. I think thread would read much better.
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15-02-2020, 23:06   #2284
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Certainly this will be an unpopular opinion. I've had a bag of cans so here goes.............

People nowadays have fcukall resilience, especially younger people. Suicide seems to be the answer to any adversity.

Example...........Caroline Flack.

She allegedly hit a lad with a lamp. Not good but she's hardly a serial killer. She fcuked up, that's all. We all fcuk up. Christ I've done some mad dumb sh1t in my life.

The lamp incident damaged her career and her love life.

So what, just get on with things. Accept your punishment and move on. Her career probably would have recovered. She would have either rekindled her romance or started a new one. It wasn't the end of the world.

Hardly worth killing yourself over.

It's not the young people's fault though. Resilience is being taught/engineered out of them.
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15-02-2020, 23:09   #2285
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I know bugger all about this Caroline Flack. But I rather think her problems ran deeper than that.
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Certainly this will be an unpopular opinion. I've had a bag of cans so here goes.............

People nowadays have fcukall resilience, especially younger people. Suicide seems to be the answer to any adversity.

Example...........Caroline Flack.

She allegedly hit a lad with a lamp. Not good but she's hardly a serial killer. She fcuked up, that's all. We all fcuk up. Christ I've done some mad dumb sh1t in my life.

The lamp incident damaged her career and her love life.

So what, just get on with things. Accept your punishment and move on. Her career probably would have recovered. She would have either rekindled her romance or started a new one. It wasn't the end of the world.

Hardly worth killing yourself over.

It's not the young people's fault though. Resilience is being taught/engineered out of them.
You might want to rethink that bag of cans.

Suicide is not the easy option, it's the ONLY option for some people who feel despair that will never pass.
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I know bugger all about this Caroline Flack. But I rather think her problems ran deeper than that.
We don't actually know that. Her family have been silent as they are trying to digest and cope with the tragedy while her management people are bitching about the Crown Prosecution Service doing their job and prosecuting her. Nobody should be exempt from the law, not because of celebrity or whatever this mysterious vulnerability she allegedly had. It's all very well saying she wasn't receiving the help she needed but where were her family and friends and management team if they are so adamant about it?
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You might want to rethink that bag of cans.

Suicide is not the easy option, it's the ONLY option for some people who feel despair that will never pass.

The idea of this ever becoming a popular opinion is frightening. Suicide shouldn’t be an option at all, and it’s certainly not the only option no matter how much in the depths of despair someone feels they are. I dislike the idea that it would ever actually become an acceptable practice in Irish society. I believe that as a society we have a duty to do better.
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I do not care when some celebrity I have never met, known or cared about dies....
I will not pretend to be upset. or do the sheep mentality and take to social media to express some made up sympathy.

I care deeply about those close to me, my family, friends, my pets etc, and can understand the pain the family of the selfish flack is going through, but still does not mean I care.

Add in the fact she assaulted her partner, were that a man that assaulted a woman and committed suicide, would there be the same faux grief outpouring ?
Any person that assaults their partner is scum, even if they are now dead.
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I do not care when some celebrity I have never met, known or cared about dies....
I will not pretend to be upset. or do the sheep mentality and take to social media to express some made up sympathy.

I care deeply about those close to me, my family, friends, my pets etc, and can understand the pain the family of the selfish flack is going through, but still does not mean I care.

Add in the fact she assaulted her partner, were that a man that assaulted a woman and committed suicide, would there be the same faux grief outpouring ?
Any person that assaults their partner is scum, even if they are now dead.
this, im hating the wannabe influencers, and dopes who watch reality crap post that same "inspirational" quote she put on her insta (taken from somewhere else) and would these "celebs" theyre fawning over, put an insta/social media post of RIP Mary or Tom Murphy....no they fecking wouldnt....grow up theyre not your real friends/family...just people you see on telly...

And if Chris Brown died, the same ones blaming the media/tweeting poor Flack, more than likely would be dancing in joy/tweeting Good riddance etc(and none of the so brave nonsense)

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this, im hating the wannabe influencers, and dopes who watch reality crap post that same "inspirational" quote she put on her insta (taken from somewhere else) and would these "celebs" theyre fawning over, put an insta/social media post of RIP Mary or Tom Murphy....no they fecking wouldnt....grow up theyre not your real friends/family...just people you see on telly...

And if Chris Brown died, the same ones blaming the media/tweeting poor Flack, more than likely would be dancing in joy/tweeting Good riddance etc(and none of the so brave nonsense)
I wish I could thank this twice. The social media vomit fest has been ridiculous. People trying to outdo each other in their outpouring of grief over someone they didnt know and changing their profile pictures to "Be Kind" etc.

My unpopular opinion is that the whole blame the media" thing is complete bullsh*t.
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I do not care when some celebrity I have never met, known or cared about dies....
I will not pretend to be upset. or do the sheep mentality and take to social media to express some made up sympathy.

I care deeply about those close to me, my family, friends, my pets etc, and can understand the pain the family of the selfish flack is going through, but still does not mean I care.

Add in the fact she assaulted her partner, were that a man that assaulted a woman and committed suicide, would there be the same faux grief outpouring ?
Any person that assaults their partner is scum, even if they are now dead.
If it was a family member of yours you would still be powerless, the plan executed by Miss flack would be the exact same as your hypothetical family member, they would create a distraction ie arrange you to pick up medication etc and then take the opportunity.
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The idea of this ever becoming a popular opinion is frightening. Suicide shouldn’t be an option at all, and it’s certainly not the only option no matter how much in the depths of despair someone feels they are. I dislike the idea that it would ever actually become an acceptable practice in Irish society. I believe that as a society we have a duty to do better.

I agree this is a worrying way to think, suicide is a very permanent solution to what is nearly always a temporary problem. People should be encouraged to always seek out professional help.


That said it can be almost impossible for healthy people to comprehend the pain individuals must be going through in order to end their own lives. David Foster Wallace explains this better than I ever could.



“The so-called ‘psychotically depressed’ person who tries to kill herself doesn’t do so out of quote ‘hopelessness’ or any abstract conviction that life’s assets and debits do not square. And surely not because death seems suddenly appealing. The person in whom Its invisible agony reaches a certain unendurable level will kill herself the same way a trapped person will eventually jump from the window of a burning high-rise. Make no mistake about people who leap from burning windows. Their terror of falling from a great height is still just as great as it would be for you or me standing speculatively at the same window just checking out the view; i.e. the fear of falling remains a constant. The variable here is the other terror, the fire’s flames: when the flames get close enough, falling to death becomes the slightly less terrible of two terrors. It’s not desiring the fall; it’s terror of the flames. And yet nobody down on the sidewalk, looking up and yelling ‘Don’t!’ and ‘Hang on!’, can understand the jump. Not really. You’d have to have personally been trapped and felt flames to really understand a terror way beyond falling.”

Again suicide is such a complex issue and every case is very personal to the individual and unfortunately Wallace did eventually take his own life. I feel it's good that it can be talked about even in the unpopular opinions tread just so we can advise people to seek professional help over and over again. If people are having suicidal thoughts they should contact their GP or if they just want someone to listen they should phone the Samaritans.
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