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04-09-2019, 21:36   #4966
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Five times Johnstone was asked today about the armegeddon coming down the line predicted by his own advisors that came out in leaks and he refused to answer the if the leaks were true or not and that is just the leaks that has got out.

Wait until a GE setting and the leaks start coming fast and furious from the likes of the governor of the Bank of England etc about what is going to happen and how people will suffer it will become plain to people in NI of how the DUP is willing to sacrifice their livelihoods for some neo unionist cause and how they held back this information from them.

I predict gains for the centre in NI with SF to hold their own and losses for the DUP.

Tories will lose power in the UK with the DUP sat at the back viewed as a bunch of outdated racist homophobic cranks.
Johnson`s reckless,spoilt brat attitude appears to have finally woken people up to what a clueless windbag he really is!
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Anyone who thinks SF and the DUP won't still be the main players for several elections to come are living in cloud cuckoo land
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Anyone who thinks SF and the DUP won't still be the main players for several elections to come are living in cloud cuckoo land
DUP will lose votes and we have probably seen almost the last of Arlene. But there will be little change as you say...maybe drop a seat or two, the UUP seem incapable of offering an alternative.
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There was a little clip on newsnight last night showing the various permutations of Tory/Labour/ Lib dems, snp etc post an election.While NI was shown in the diagram there was no mention of the place or who might be returned. I though it encapsulated the reality of NI-very few outside of the 6 counties really care about the place. Certainly not any British government and what's absolutely certain is that if/once Britain leaves the EU they will want to ditch the costly millstone that is NI asap.
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A cursory Google search shows SF took a pounding at the ballot boxes recently,how is stating the obvious hilarious or premature ?
they took 'a pounding' mainly because of the irish electorate who tend mainly vote FF or FG and for a while decided to vote SF in order to punish. now they're back to voting FG/FF so as I say - the SF vote is stabilising ... not collapsing.
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05-09-2019, 13:19   #4971
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DUP will lose votes and we have probably seen almost the last of Arlene. But there will be little change as you say...maybe drop a seat or two, the UUP seem incapable of offering an alternative.
Yes,i don't think anyone is suggesting that there is going to be a massive move ecause it is NI after all but I do think the sands are going to shift for the DUP in this GE when damaging information that has been buried and withheld on Brexit and their ongoing scandals start leaking as they invariably do at GEs.
The only possible losers can be the DUP in marginals and they wont have the ear or the protection of Whitehall in this and may well indeed be the opposite for the first time in GEs.I think id Alliance are clever and ruthless with their strategy they could be the ones to gain in this situation and maybe could start to turn the tide towards normalising the way people vote in NI.

They DUP bet all on black and lost.
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05-09-2019, 13:53   #4972
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Johnson`s reckless,spoilt brat attitude appears to have finally woken people up to what a clueless windbag he really is!
I don't think he's clueless. What he wants and why differs from what would be good for the UK. The big money men will make out like bandits with a no deal Brexit.

On NI, imagine how prosperous NI would be being the only British area with less restricted trade with the EU?
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Johnson`s reckless,spoilt brat attitude appears to have finally woken people up to what a clueless windbag he really is!
I don't think he's clueless. What he wants and why differs from what would be good for the UK. The big money men will make out like bandits with a no deal Brexit.

On NI, imagine how prosperous NI would be being the only British area with less restricted trade with the EU?
You're right, the rich would have got richer and the rest of us would pay the price for their greed and short sightedness .the picture of rich boy JRM lounging on the bench in the HoC was sickening
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You're right, the rich would have got richer and the rest of us would pay the price for their greed and short sightedness .the picture of rich boy JRM lounging on the bench in the HoC was sickening
One bright spot about all this is everyday people come to the fore. I actually fondly remember part of the whole miners strikes/Thatcher period where Irish organisations tried to help out those suffering over in England. Everyday people by way of decency tend to put these political and corporate entities to shame. The likes of Johnson and Rees-Mogg would be the ones profiteering in a crisis and likely will be if it's a no deal Brexit.
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You're right, the rich would have got richer and the rest of us would pay the price for their greed and short sightedness .the picture of rich boy JRM lounging on the bench in the HoC was sickening
He's the personification of why Brexit is a bad idea. The haunted hatstand wants to bring a bit of Victorian discipline back to the British public. A truly awful human being.
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