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View Poll Results: Would you support big change in RTE?
No, Things are fine the way they are 50 3.04%
Yes, Reduce salaries of presenters 457 27.81%
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14-07-2019, 15:14   #1801
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Sure,they need all the €160's they can get.
This is just another scandal.

https://www.thesun.ie/tvandshowbiz/t...aviv-revealed/
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15-07-2019, 02:23   #1802
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Sure,they need all the €160's they can get.
This is just another scandal.

https://www.thesun.ie/tvandshowbiz/t...aviv-revealed/
Essentially a free holiday all expenses paid for all involved. RTE seem to have policy of sending acts that haven't a snowmans hope in hell of coming anywhere close to winning and that's costing the bones of half a million euros every single year.
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15-07-2019, 02:33   #1803
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That was 2103 licence fees.....all wasted.
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15-07-2019, 03:33   #1804
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RTE are of the opinion that all houses should have a licence. Free licences such as for some carer's and over 70's are paid for by the state. The rules regarding a TV licence is that you are required to have one if you have a TV. Over the last 10 years we have more and more rented houses. Rented houses by there nature are harder to collect from and there will be gaps in payments when tenants change.

Another point is that many rented and student flats no longer have TVs. Everyone has a laptop, people are more and more just watching their media on their laptop. The assumption that every house in Ireland has a TV and therefore should have a license is just silly in 2019.
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15-07-2019, 09:11   #1805
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The assumption that every house in Ireland has a TV and therefore should have a license is just silly in 2019.
Not really. It is a way fairer assumption now then it was when the license system was introduced or at any point since in reality, the figures may have moved marginally over the past 5-6 years, but the vast vast majority of homes have TV's.

Officially though they don't assume, that's one of the reasons they have inspectors.

In 2019 it's never been "easier" to do without a TV and therefore a license.
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15-07-2019, 10:06   #1806
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Sure,they need all the €160's they can get.
This is just another scandal.

https://www.thesun.ie/tvandshowbiz/t...aviv-revealed/
Cripes!!!

All that for 2 dancers, and one singer (allegedly)? And there was like a diner 'table' too?

Jesus-still, it's 5 grand more than they spent on that Brendan Murray guy. And it was literally him and a balloon on the stage.
Who the hell got all that money?

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RTE seem to have policy of sending acts that haven't a snowmans hope in hell of coming anywhere close to winning and that's costing the bones of half a million euros every single year.
How much would you think winning it and having to host it would cost?

I'm happy enough with not winning it for the time being TBH.

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An average of 242,000 viewers tuned in over the course of the three nights representing a 21 per cent audience share
3 nights of Telly at 21% audience share, if that wipes out the cost and makes a profit, I'm all for it.

The majority of the gouge it seems is from the host nation and whatever private companies become "partners".

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Fúcking Hell!
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How much would you think winning it and having to host it would cost?

I'm happy enough with not winning it for the time being TBH.

That said



3 nights of Telly at 21% audience share, if that wipes out the cost and makes a profit, I'm all for it.

The majority of the gouge it seems is from the host nation and whatever private companies become "partners".



Fúcking Hell!
Jesus.... 240 000 viewers watching the Eurovision... there was a time when RTE would have dropped the Eurovision for ratings that low.
RTE 2 would usually get those ratings. For Home and Away.

That's bloody awful.
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Pat Kenny is an excellent broadcaster. Probably the best around on Irish or British radio for serious discussion / debate. The notion that everyone that's ever walked through the gates of montrose are rubbish is a nonsense one. Are they grossly overpaid? Yes undoubtedly but thats a different matter altogether. Mariane Finucane is a other example of a very overpaid but very good quality broadcaster.

I think Tubridy is very poor considering his pay but if he sticks to more light hearted stuff then he's fine. The problem with the late late is more the quality of guests they get. 90 percent of them were just rounded up in the rte canteen and people just don't care. To be fair, in a small country like ours it's very hard compete with the likes of BBC with big international guests.
I agree that not everyone who is a broadcaster is rubbish. I do not consider Kenny to be rubbish but do consider him both overpaid and overrated (based on the programmes he did). Marian Finucane is good at what she does and perhaps here is an example of someone underused by RTE.

I'm sure Kenny has more potential than the RTE (and subsequent employers of him) allowed. Stuff like The Frontline were awful and wallowed in extreme negativity. Last night, I watched on RTE a very interesting documentary on Saudi Arabia (RTE 1 11.15) and this is precisely what Kenny should have been doing on The Frontline rather than going on about the same banking topic week in week out. I blame The Frontline for why Mrs Brown's Boys became so popular! Negative poison needed an antidote!!

RTE's canteen guest mentality is damaging the chatshows too I agree 100%. The presenter is often irrelevant. RTE's chatshows have clique-ish obsessions with certain people and with music and comedy for example, it is a closed shop reserved for certain people only.

But I also agree that getting good international guests depends on who is in the country. For example, Tubridy did a very good interview on the radio with Margaret Atwood (writer of The Handmaid's Tale, Oryx and Crake, etc.) but it was in June 2018 outside of his TV time. She was actually supposed to be in Ireland in March that year but due to the snow, the event she was to be at was cancelled. She could well have been on one of the TV chatshows if she was here that March.
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16-07-2019, 08:32   #1810
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Marian Finucane is good at what she does and perhaps here is an example of someone underused by RTE.
she really isnt, shes adequate at best if shes interested in the person or subject otherwise snappy and disinterested, the replacements are usually a breath of fresh air when shes not there.
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Jesus.... 240 000 viewers watching the Eurovision... there was a time when RTE would have dropped the Eurovision for ratings that low.
RTE 2 would usually get those ratings. For Home and Away.

That's bloody awful.
viewing figures in general are down across the board for all tv stations.
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Jesus.... 240 000 viewers watching the Eurovision... there was a time when RTE would have dropped the Eurovision for ratings that low.
RTE 2 would usually get those ratings. For Home and Away.

That's bloody awful.
RTÉ2 would be lucky to get that for Home and Away in the last 20 years.
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I blame The Frontline for why Mrs Brown's Boys became so popular! Negative poison needed an antidote!!
Jaysus, you are not going to let that one go are you?

Simply No. Pat Kenny had absolutely nothing to do with the popularity of Mrs Bown's Boys.

It's popular for numerous reasons, the main one being the English networks (and RTE) forgot about that audience for that sort of comedy. They turned their back on them in favor of the under 30s demographic with "Edgy" or "Clever" comedy, the majority of which were "quiz" shows, basically the same 2 dozen celebs doing the circuit across the networks.

The critics absolutely eviscerated it when it was shown here and in Britain, of course in their forced snobbery they forgot the golden rule, comedy is subjective but above all else it's about entertainment and it's about being funny.

Some of the reviews.

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Around 7 million people watched the last Christmas Special. Have they ever been so wrong?
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Around 7 million people watched the last Christmas Special. Have they ever been so wrong?
TBH I think its below most all other sit-coms even from the 1970s, I think it purely a case of the lack of sitcoms on TV more than its 1970esq comedy. It's like most Chuck Lorrie sit-coms from the states, there are no other sitcoms in competition with them, why do you think 2 and a Half men last so long, same goes for TBBT.

But true its purely subjective.
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