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12-09-2019, 20:49   #61
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12-09-2019, 23:36   #62
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for anyone interested in the language being by some posters in this thread you should do a google for "The Israel Project’s 2009 Global Language Dictionary".
Last time its mentioned on boards is five years ago so might be worth mentioning again.
A few of the posts here are using that playbook,
and when you watch a few interviews you can nearly predict what's going to be said next.
the current ambassador to the UK is a dinger for it.
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They would have to be UN troops and the US would go against it. Big Jewish lobby in the US.
They need intervention on humanitarian grounds. It's obvious the U.S. and Russia have their agendas foremost.
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for anyone interested in the language being by some posters in this thread you should do a google for "The Israel Project’s 2009 Global Language Dictionary".
Last time its mentioned on boards is five years ago so might be worth mentioning again.
A few of the posts here are using that playbook,
and when you watch a few interviews you can nearly predict what's going to be said next.
the current ambassador to the UK is a dinger for it.
Hadn’t seen that before but they have some necks.
Plenty of them in here too it seems.
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They would have to be UN troops and the US would go against it. Big Jewish lobby in the US.
The lobby is in the White House and at every level of US politics. Trumps daughter, Ivanka, is married to Jared Kushner, whose family is so embedded in the Israeli dominance of American politics that Netanyahu once literally slept in Jared Kushner's bed (Jared apparently slept in the basement that night).

Ireland thinks it has a special relationship with the US because once a year Irish politicians gets to visit the President of the US with a bowl of shamrock. Israel has 24/7 access to the US leadership. It is a rite of passage for US politicians to visit Israel and express their deep and abiding love of the country and their determination to advance it's interests at any cost to the US. US states like Florida have passed laws to make it illegal to criticise Israel.

Fantasies about the UN intervening and confronting the IDF in defence of Palestinians are exactly that - fantasies. Any force which did actually intervene must be non-UN (as the US would exercise its veto by default), and should the IDF prove unable to quickly defeat that force with indirect US support and funding, the US would go to war directly to protect Israeli interests regardless of the cost. Simple as that.
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And basically, as with most things you can blame colonial powers for this mess
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You would have to think this is not going to end well for the state of Israel.

Any rational reading of moves like this, from a historical point of view, have never resulted in a positive outcome if anything its usually the opposite.

Thinking that the United states is going to come to your rescue, maybe ask the people in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq etc how that worked out for them.

Compromise is the only way to peace.
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Seems the United States is now directly supporting this policy.
They no longer deem Israeli settlements in Palestinian territory to be illegal.
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And basically, as with most things you can blame colonial powers for this mess
You can blame them for the past but the intractable neighbours for the present.
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Seems the United States is now directly supporting this policy.
They no longer deem Israeli settlements in Palestinian territory to be illegal.

US policy is directed from Israel. It has been since Kushner got into power.

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US policy is directed from Israel. It has been since Kushner got into power.
Nothing to do with Kushner. Has been the case for decades. Can't see any change going forward either. Can't think of another group that has as much influence in US politics.

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Who is going to step in to prevent a position outcome for them?

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Compromise is the only way to peace.
The Israeli's have tried that to be fair to them and it has not worked. Hard to compromise with people who want you wiped off the face of the planet.
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The Israeli's have tried that to be fair to them and it has not worked. Hard to compromise with people who want you wiped off the face of the planet.
That's completely untrue. And trying to be fair to the people you butcher and steal land from? Very nice of them

The sad thing is the world sits by and watches while the U.S. supports the Israeli regime and in time what Israel is doing won't even be questioned. It's Neytanyahu who does not want the two state solution. It is Netanyahu promised to back more annexation if he got re-elected. The region will be better off when he's gone. The Israelis have zero morals.
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Nothing to do with Kushner. Has been the case for decades. Can't see any change going forward either. Can't think of another group that has as much influence in US politics.



Who is going to step in to prevent a position outcome for them?



The Israeli's have tried that to be fair to them and it has not worked. Hard to compromise with people who want you wiped off the face of the planet.



A nonsense, tbh. Settlement building and expansion have been ongoing for decades - thats hardly "compromise".
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We will find out today whether or not Netanyahu will be indicted and on what charges.



https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...rust-1.8160019
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