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Pelletstown station gets go-ahead

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  • #32
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Ireland trains wrote: »
    They should make this station 3 platforms to allow for trains to overtake

    Fairly certain there is no space. The line is mostly constrained between canal and buildings until Coolmine


  • #33
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,651 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    There is remains of a siding and platform at broombridge between railway and canal.

    There are other places like at navan road parkway.

    They'll build on all these spaces then realise they should have kept them for future expansion of the railway, Luas etc.


  • #34
    goingnowhere
    Registered Users Posts: 4,131 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    The Luas stop and depot is built on top of what was Liffey Junction station


  • #35
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,651 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    Found a photo...

    http://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000303320


  • #36
    goingnowhere
    Registered Users Posts: 4,131 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    Luas depot is on the right, Broombridge station in the distance slightly to the right

    The track was setup for Broadstone, when it closed the track was realigned to provide a better alignment towards Glasnevin Junction


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  • #37
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,651 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    Its just one of the few places where there space for a siding on the canal side. Perhaps not enough now, with the length of trains.

    You'd imagine if the electrify the line, (lol) they will have huge issues of not being able to pass each other.


  • #38
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 28,981 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    beauf wrote: »
    Its just one of the few places where there space for a siding on the canal side. Perhaps not enough now, with the length of trains.

    You'd imagine if the electrify the line, (lol) they will have huge issues of not being able to pass each other.

    the powers that be won't care about that. you heard it here first. sad but true.

    shut down alcohol action ireland now! end MUP today!



  • #39
    patob
    Registered Users Posts: 217 ✭✭patob


    Hurrache wrote: »
    Serious question, what's the point of it given you have Broombridge and Ashtown, then the 'park', nearby?

    Yes, the logic for this station looks dubious as this would be very close to existing stations in Ashtown and Broombridge. Anyone got the distances?


  • #40
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 48,234 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    easy enough to get rough distances from google maps.
    distances between stations along that route, inbound:

    coolmine
    1.7km
    castleknock
    1.8km
    phoenix park
    1km
    ashtown
    2.3km
    broombridge
    3km
    drumcondra

    though i think there's a plan to put a station at cross guns to link up with the metro (whenever that happens). that'd be 2km from broombridge.

    i guess the anomaly there is the phoenix park station. built because it was easy to build? and because of the planned development of the racecourse which never filled up?


  • #41
    marno21
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,341 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Irish Rail have issued a tender for the construction of a new railway station at Pelletstown and a new footbridge over the Royal Canal

    https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/publicpurchase_frameset.asp?PID=135745&B=ETENDERS_SIMPLE&PS=1&PP=ctm/Supplier/publictenders

    To start in May 2019 and open in November 2020.


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  • #42
    Funkyjaw
    Registered Users Posts: 30 ✭Funkyjaw


    Does anyone know who was awarded this contract and If work is starting May 19 as proposed?


  • #43
    Funkyjaw
    Registered Users Posts: 30 ✭Funkyjaw


    Funkyjaw wrote: »
    Does anyone know who was awarded this contract and If work is starting May 19 as proposed?

    Anyone ?? 😮😮


  • #44
    bilbot79
    Registered Users Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭bilbot79


    Been waiting on this one too. Hope it's not a casualty of the national childrens hospital fiasco. Casualty, get it, get it


  • #45
    Funkyjaw
    Registered Users Posts: 30 ✭Funkyjaw


    As per Cieran Perry's newsletter "contract to be awarded in June this year and construction is scheduled for completion in Dec 2020."


  • #46
    mrsdewinter
    Registered Users Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭mrsdewinter


    Funkyjaw wrote: »
    As per Cieran Perry's newsletter "contract to be awarded in June this year and construction is scheduled for completion in Dec 2020."

    Oh, wow - that's great news. Thanks for that!


  • #47
    cronos
    Registered Users Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭cronos


    So it's July. Did the contract get awarded? We still ontrack for a 2020 completion?


  • #48
    CatInABox
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,226 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    Here's the latest from the Dail:
    Shane Ross wrote:
    As the Deputy is aware, as Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport, I have responsibility for policy and overall funding in relation to public transport. The National Transport Authority (NTA) has statutory responsibility for the planning and development of public transport infrastructure in the Greater Dublin Area, including the DART Expansion Programme which includes consideration of the specific projects referred to by the Deputy.

    Noting the NTA's responsibilities in the matter raised, I have referred the Deputy's question to the NTA for a more detailed reply. Please contact my private office if you do not receive a reply within 10 days.

    See here.


  • #49
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    https://twitter.com/RCPCA1/status/1153392816241991685 Some advance works going ahead imminently


  • #50
    Zebra3
    Registered Users Posts: 13,846 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Apologies for going off topic, but has there been any progress on getting level crossings on the Maynooth line closed that will make up for the extra time of trains stopping at the new station?


  • #51
    L1011
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    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Apologies for going off topic, but has there been any progress on getting level crossings on the Maynooth line closed that will make up for the extra time of trains stopping at the new station?

    No progress on crossing closures and they aren't guaranteed to provide speed improvements anyway.

    Electrification will provide speed improvements due to improved acceleration and later braking; although maybe not as much if they're hauling batteries.


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  • #52
    cronos
    Registered Users Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭cronos


    L1011 wrote: »
    No progress on crossing closures and they aren't guaranteed to provide speed improvements anyway.

    Electrification will provide speed improvements due to improved acceleration and later braking; although maybe not as much if they're hauling batteries.

    You would imagine automating the barrier opening and closing at Ashtown would be a good first step. Then building the bridge at Ashtown over the current crossing. Think that's been in the plans for a while.


  • #53
    L1011
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    Automation is extremely expensive and won't be done to a gate that is going to be removed entirely.

    All crossings are meant to be removed with electrification. If there are signalling changes it may improve speeds but not hugely - the electrification is the primary future speed boost itself.


  • #54
    cython
    Registered Users Posts: 4,757 ✭✭✭cython


    cronos wrote: »
    You would imagine automating the barrier opening and closing at Ashtown would be a good first step. Then building the bridge at Ashtown over the current crossing. Think that's been in the plans for a while.

    That will really only serve to alleviate local road traffic, same as Clonsilla and Coolmine, due to the stations being adjacent to the crossing. No trains (bar non stop ones) should be appreciably slowed down any more than they'd already need to be going by these crossings.

    In fact the irony of this station is that it erodes any potential line speed improvement by the last crossing closure, by putting a station almost exactly where that crossing was!

    As already mentioned, electrification is more important than just the crossing closures to achieve improvements.


  • #55
    CatInABox
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,226 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    More info from that twitter account:

    https://twitter.com/RCPCA1/status/1153660943823507459

    ✔Tenders being evaluated
    ✔Intended construction works will start in Autumn
    ✔Will take 18 months to complete


  • #56
    cronos
    Registered Users Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭cronos


    cython wrote: »
    That will really only serve to alleviate local road traffic, same as Clonsilla and Coolmine, due to the stations being adjacent to the crossing. No trains (bar non stop ones) should be appreciably slowed down any more than they'd already need to be going by these crossings.

    In fact the irony of this station is that it erodes any potential line speed improvement by the last crossing closure, by putting a station almost exactly where that crossing was!

    As already mentioned, electrification is more important than just the crossing closures to achieve improvements.

    Bring on electrification! :)


  • #57
    CatInABox
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,226 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    An update, of sorts. Planning permission extension requested.

    https://twitter.com/RCPCA1/status/1173553179021205504


  • #58
    cronos
    Registered Users Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭cronos


    CatInABox wrote: »
    An update, of sorts. Planning permission extension requested.

    https://twitter.com/RCPCA1/status/1173553179021205504

    An extension till when? Does it impact the goal ove being complete in 18 months?


  • #59
    cougar
    Registered Users Posts: 25 ✭cougar


    Having a quick look at the tender competition on eTendees it doesn't look like a contract has been awarded. I'd say the initial timelines are looking optimistic at this stage


  • #60
    CatInABox
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,226 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    The construction of this station was specifically mentioned in the budget, with completion due in 2021. Apparently, construction is meant to start this year, not much time left.

    See here.


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  • #61
    IE 222
    Registered Users Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭IE 222


    With DART been expanded onto the line in the near future is it a missed opportunity not to design the station and clear the site for passing loops to be included at a future date. DART and the increased frequencies will have a major impact on Sligo services. The Northern and Wexford lines are clear examples of the operational restrictions caused by not having passing loops available.


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