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Strong Winds for Munster, Connacht and Leinster : PM 17th/AM 18th, Jan 2018

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    #332
    nacho libre
    Registered Users Posts: 16,637 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    yellowlabrador wrote: »
    a video compilation from holland.

    Apparently Norfolk recorded a gust of 86 mph last night.
    To be honest after watching that video i'm glad we did not get the worst of the storm. It was only 45- 55 mph gusts at its peak here, and there was still some damage done.

    Also why the feck was that guy laughing in the video when he saw the lorry over turning. The driver could have been killed.


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    #333
    Soccarboy11
    Registered Users Posts: 579 ✭✭✭Soccarboy11


    nacho libre wrote: »
    Apparently Norfolk recorded a gust of 86 mph last night.
    To be honest after watching that video i'm glad we did not get the worst of the storm. It was only 45- 55 mph gusts at its peak here, and there was still some damage done.

    Also why the feck was that guy laughing in the video when he saw the lorry over turning. The driver could have been killed.

    that looks terrifying, the one with all the roof tiles falling off the roof and the owner just looking out the window in despair. Sad!


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    #334
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Sitting in front of the fire - I was trying to think what was missing. Then it hit me that that for the first time in nearly a week there is an absence of the noise of howling winds. Don't know how I'll get off to sleep at all I've become so habituated ..... ;)


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    #335
    lolie
    Registered Users Posts: 2,330 ✭✭✭lolie


    A woman and her baby had a lucky escape from a falling tree in the Netherlands yesterday.
    But the hell was she doing out in that weather in the first place with a baby.

    https://itnproductions.com/news/video-hair-raising-escape-for-mum-and-baby-during-deadly-storm?type=editorial


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    #336
    burren
    Registered Users Posts: 37 ✭burren


    lolie wrote: »
    A woman and her baby had a lucky escape from a falling tree in the Netherlands yesterday.
    But the hell was she doing out in that weather in the first place with a baby.

    https://itnproductions.com/news/video-hair-raising-escape-for-mum-and-baby-during-deadly-storm?type=editorial
    Don't think you can blame her too much for being out in this weather. This is in Horst in Limburg in the south of The Netherlands. Initially only yellow warning on Wednesday and later on Thursday morning upgraded to orange warning. Red warning was never issued for Limburg. As I mentioned earlier in the thread the red alert was only raised Thursday morning for central parts of The Netherlands when the storm was already well underway (9:20 am local time). So most people were ill prepared and not expecting a wind event of this magnitude (with gusts up to 120km/h in Limburg). Some inland weather stations measured strongest gusts in decades and this storm is making it into top 10 of most severe wind storms ever recorded in The Netherlands.


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    #337
    Calibos
    Registered Users Posts: 7,796 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Has that Ch4 Weather forecaster eaten humble pie yet?


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    #338
    JCX BXC
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    burren wrote: »
    Don't think you can blame her too much for being out in this weather. This is in Horst in Limburg in the south of The Netherlands. Initially only yellow warning on Wednesday and later on Thursday morning upgraded to orange warning. Red warning was never issued for Limburg. As I mentioned earlier in the thread the red alert was only raised Thursday morning for central parts of The Netherlands when the storm was already well underway (9:20 am local time). So most people were ill prepared and not expecting a wind event of this magnitude (with gusts up to 120km/h in Limburg). Some inland weather stations measured strongest gusts in decades and this storm is making it into top 10 of most severe wind storms ever recorded in The Netherlands.

    Is there not such a thing as looking out the window and thinking "oh fcuk is windy, maybe I shouldn't bring my vunerable baby out into this weather?"
    Calibos wrote: »
    Has that Ch4 Weather forecaster eaten humble pie yet?

    Why would he?


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    #339
    Meteorite58
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,816 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Folllowing on from the depression that passed over us on the night of the 17th into the early hours of the 18th and deepened into a storm that made it's way across Holland,Belgum and Germany .

    https://twitter.com/severeweatherEU/status/954283074002587648


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    Soccarboy11
    Registered Users Posts: 579 ✭✭✭Soccarboy11


    Meteorite58 wrote: »
    Folllowing on from the depression that passed over us on the night of the 17th into the early hours of the 18th and deepened into a storm that made it's way across Holland,Belgum and Germany .

    https://twitter.com/severeweatherEU/status/954283074002587648

    we got very lucky with what we had then, if that hit here serious damage and deaths would have most likely occured.


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    burren
    Registered Users Posts: 37 ✭burren


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    burren wrote: »
    Don't think you can blame her too much for being out in this weather. This is in Horst in Limburg in the south of The Netherlands. Initially only yellow warning on Wednesday and later on Thursday morning upgraded to orange warning. Red warning was never issued for Limburg. As I mentioned earlier in the thread the red alert was only raised Thursday morning for central parts of The Netherlands when the storm was already well underway (9:20 am local time). So most people were ill prepared and not expecting a wind event of this magnitude (with gusts up to 120km/h in Limburg). Some inland weather stations measured strongest gusts in decades and this storm is making it into top 10 of most severe wind storms ever recorded in The Netherlands.

    Is there not such a thing as looking out the window and thinking "oh fcuk is windy, maybe I shouldn't bring my vunerable baby out into this weather?"
    Like I said a lot of people were surprised by this storm. The weather was fine and just a touch windy when she left her home earlier that morning. She had an appointment for a new passport and went shopping afterwards. She was on the way back to the car when the tree almost hit her (source). Very very lucky woman and baby. Longer video with interview is here.


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    #342
    Meteorite58
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,816 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    https://twitter.com/ECMWF/status/954401503481073664


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    #343
    nacho libre
    Registered Users Posts: 16,637 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Well i hope those who were complaining about the warnings and action taken by state services prior to Storm Ophelia, think long and hard about their attitude after seeing the video of what happened in Holland. If their mentality had been adopted we would have been dealing with far more fatalies than we had.


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    #344
    Soccarboy11
    Registered Users Posts: 579 ✭✭✭Soccarboy11


    nacho libre wrote: »
    Well i hope those who were complaining about the warnings and action taken by state services prior to Storm Ophelia, think long and hard about their attitude after seeing the video of what happened in Holland. If their mentality had been adopted we would have been dealing with far more fatalies than we had.

    sadly no, i just read comments from a poll on 'The Journal' and the majority are complaining about all the weather alerts we get yet are wondering in the post about the storms and deaths 'why didnt they listen to the warnings?!?'. So eh, win some and lose some


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    thomasj
    Registered Users Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭thomasj


    Calibos wrote: »
    Has that Ch4 Weather forecaster eaten humble pie yet?

    From Netweather forecaster Jo Farrow
    To name a storm, there has to be an Amber warning and this usually related to strong winds but can relate to rainfall or snow. Met Eireann don't use the impact based warning system and look at numerical criteria.

    Today they named #StormFionn showing collaborations can be tricky. There is no mention on @MetEireann twitter feed of #StormFionn. The naming was supposed to help identify specific severe weather events, and communicate the messages to the public better. Now we have a potentially nasty looking Atlantic storm developing ready to hit the UK on Wednesday night, and Fionn which isn't really showing on the pressure charts. Already people are getting confused about the storm for Tuesday night- Fionn and the message for the Weds night low/storm could be lost.

    https://www.netweather.tv/weather-forecasts/news/8681-snow-ice-amber-yellow-warnings-storm-fionn-before-the-midweek-low-the-next-storm

    And Liam Dutton has been putting the point across that the big storm on Wednesday wasn't Fionn.


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    #346
    Meteorite58
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,816 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    https://twitter.com/eddy_weather/status/954308331971272705


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    #347
    MJohnston
    Registered Users Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    Dutton's argument (repeated by Farrow above) made little to no sense - on one hand he was saying that Met Eireann should switch to an impact-based warning level system (which is a fine idea on its own, ignoring the fact that ME are already planning to look into this apparently), on the other that it shouldn't be a storm unless it shows up as a recognisable system on the pressure charts.

    Which is it?

    As that tweet above points out, there's been plenty of storms in the past that caused significant impact without "looking like" storms.


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