Looking for recommendations for a really good hairdresser

cannotlogin · 11-07-2020 8:19pm #1

Hi, just wondering if anyone can recommend a really good hairdresser both in terms of colour and cut?

I have long brown hair. No greys so I've put semi permanent colour in it over the years but nothing other than close shades to my natural colour.

Anyway I've never had a hairdresser who recommended a cut or colour that might suit better and I could really like one as it's just boring and I would love something completely different but easy to maintain at least in terms of styling as I'm rubbish at it myself.

Any suggestions? Dublin City or South if possible?

Twee. · 12-07-2020 1:04pm

Any of the usual places in Dublin would be worth investigating - Kazumi, Brown Sugar, Cats, Reds, all very long standing places that would have a good reputation. I go to Preen myself. Zero One seems very popular as well.

What you need to do is book a consultation. If you're getting a patch test for a colour you can usually do it then if there's time, make sure to mention it at time of booking the patch test. Otherwise mention it when you're booking that you really need a consultation to ensure they allocate you enough time.

bo0li5eumx12kp · 12-07-2020 3:24pm

Twee. wrote: »

Any of the usual places in Dublin would be worth investigating - Kazumi, Brown Sugar, Cats, Reds, all very long standing places that would have a good reputation. I go to Preen myself. Zero One seems very popular as well.

What you need to do is book a consultation. If you're getting a patch test for a colour you can usually do it then if there's time, make sure to mention it at time of booking the patch test. Otherwise mention it when you're booking that you really need a consultation to ensure they allocate you enough time.

From their website:

CUTTING
Ladies Cut & Blow-Dry €50
Ladies Restyle & Blow-Dry €60
Gents Wash, Cut & Finish €27
Gents Dry Cut €20

Why are prices for mens vs womens cuts so dramatically different?

What if they have a really fussy dude who's very demanding?

Any hair stylists among us who can answer this?

MinnieMinx · 13-07-2020 10:46am

Samantha Old-fashioned Dimple wrote: »

From their website:

CUTTING
Ladies Cut & Blow-Dry €50
Ladies Restyle & Blow-Dry €60
Gents Wash, Cut & Finish €27
Gents Dry Cut €20

Why are prices for mens vs womens cuts so dramatically different?

Most men’s cuts are completed using just the Clippers with a tiny bit of scissor work as they tend to be simple layered cuts and take very little time compared to women’s hair which is usually a mix of angles, layers and graduation and takes much longer to complete.

All hairdressers should do a consultation before picking up their tools so if a chap wanted a style that was likely to take much longer and be cut using scissors, they will be informed during the consultation that the fee charged will be higher to reflect the time taken and the expertise used to achieve their desired result.

Would you expect to pay the same price for an entrée as you would for a main meal? Same difference!

bo0li5eumx12kp · 13-07-2020 4:54pm

MinnieMinx wrote: »

Most men’s cuts are completed using just the Clippers with a tiny bit of scissor work as they tend to be simple layered cuts and take very little time compared to women’s hair which is usually a mix of angles, layers and graduation and takes much longer to complete.

All hairdressers should do a consultation before picking up their tools so if a chap wanted a style that was likely to take much longer and be cut using scissors, they will be informed during the consultation that the fee charged will be higher to reflect the time taken and the expertise used to achieve their desired result.

Would you expect to pay the same price for an entrée as you would for a main meal? Same difference!

See these types of cuts here,

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Would you say they're 20 euro quick cuts?

Or 60 euro long cuts involving

usually a mix of angles, layers and graduation

?

highly1111 · 14-07-2020 10:11am

Salon 27 are wonderful - it's a small operation and Alison is their colourist.
I'm think the website is salon27.ie and they're on South William Street. You can call +353873960983 for an appointment.
Good luck!

endacl · 14-07-2020 10:18am

Samantha Old-fashioned Dimple wrote: »

Why are prices for mens vs womens cuts so dramatically different?

What if they have a really fussy dude who's very demanding?

Because there aren’t enough ‘fussy dudes’ willing to pay those prices to maintain that pricing level. Most fellas being quoted multiples of what a haircut generally costs them would go somewhere else. If women’s hairdresser prices suddenly became the norm for men, barber shops would disappear because we’d all go diy.

MinnieMinx · 20-07-2020 10:37am

Samantha Old-fashioned Dimple wrote: »

See these types of cuts here,
Would you say they're 20 euro quick cuts?

Or 60 euro long cuts involving ?

They’re clearly NOT basic clipper cuts that take 15 mins or less, which is what Barbers specialise in.

They both involve careful sectioning and they both have some disconnection which is a technique taught on advanced level cutting courses. I’d expect to take 30-40 mins to initially cut those styles. Then you’ve got to blow dry them then go back and re-check.

Most people have a section of hair that doesn’t grow and fall quite the same as the rest of the hair, (around the crown, nape or forehead usually), and that’s why you need to dry the hair before finishing the style to see if you need to adjust it slightly to compensate for that particular growth pattern.

I completed my level 2&3 at college then completed advanced courses at the Sassoon Academy in London. What you’re paying for at the higher end of the scale is someone’s skills and expertise.

You can pay for a cheap mass produced kitchen for less than 10k or 50k for a bespoke kitchen made by a time served carpenter. They’re both kitchens and serve a basic function but the materials and build quality are very different.

bo0li5eumx12kp · 20-07-2020 11:58am

MinnieMinx wrote: »

They’re clearly NOT basic clipper cuts that take 15 mins or less, which is what Barbers specialise in.

They both involve careful sectioning and they both have some disconnection which is a technique taught on advanced level cutting courses. I’d expect to take 30-40 mins to initially cut those styles. Then you’ve got to blow dry them then go back and re-check.

Most people have a section of hair that doesn’t grow and fall quite the same as the rest of the hair, (around the crown, nape or forehead usually), and that’s why you need to dry the hair before finishing the style to see if you need to adjust it slightly to compensate for that particular growth pattern.

I completed my level 2&3 at college then completed advanced courses at the Sassoon Academy in London. What you’re paying for at the higher end of the scale is someone’s skills and expertise.

You can pay for a cheap mass produced kitchen for less than 10k or 50k for a bespoke kitchen made by a time served carpenter. They’re both kitchens and serve a basic function but the materials and build quality are very different.

Hmph.

So, where would I go where someone would have the training to produce that style?

Someone DM'd me a name of a dude from Peter Mark shop somewhere but, they're prices were triple figures.

I mean, I'm not looking for a free cut, I'll pay for time and effort of course but 120 to 150 euro, that's more than what I was expecting.

That being said, as those pictures show, they're basically I would say, professional elite level styling.
I don't really know a lot about hair styling but, I'm not going down to the local gals hair salon for a generic cut.

What I'm looking for is what those pics show pretty much, which I assume not too many places are gonna do.

Twee. · 20-07-2020 3:42pm

I'm not a hairdresser, but those cuts are/were fairly popular so just show them a few pictures when you go in. Any decent hairdresser should be able to do that. Book a consultation if you're unsure, show them the pics and ask them can they do it before you commit. I mentioned Style Club in your other thread, have you tried contacting them?

A haircut shouldn't cost triple figures, unless you're getting colour or highlights, that's where the big price jumps come in.

bo0li5eumx12kp · 20-07-2020 4:58pm

Twee. wrote: »

I'm not a hairdresser, but those cuts are/were fairly popular so just show them a few pictures when you go in. Any decent hairdresser should be able to do that. Book a consultation if you're unsure, show them the pics and ask them can they do it before you commit. I mentioned Style Club in your other thread, have you tried contacting them?

A haircut shouldn't cost triple figures, unless you're getting colour or highlights, that's where the big price jumps come in.

I looked at their website.

Before I go in an inquire, as well to get all the groundwork done.

And as there's mention of,

I completed my level 2&3 at college then completed advanced courses at the Sassoon Academy in London. What you’re paying for at the higher end of the scale is someone’s skills and expertise.

If I know there's a specific stylist with this level of qualification that can definitely deliver what I'm looking for - and more importantly, where I can find them - I prioritize an inquiry there.

i.e. "advanced qualification", not really knowing what that is but, sometimes it's that true refinement in appearance that can make all the difference (at least to me, when I look at it), which is presumably delivered by someone who knows what they're doing - or rather someone who really really really, ridiculously knows what they're doing.

If that's what "advanced qualification" means, I'm prepared to anti-up for that.

Where I had been going, they're a stylists and did an outstanding job for what I was paying, but they also do a lot of "grandma jane" types and TBH, that "glamour" style in the pictures - I didn't see too much of that coming out of there.

Not sure what "style club" do more frequently but, just checking I have all muh bases covered before I go making a consultation.

Kalimah · 20-07-2020 5:07pm

I'd recommend The Sitting Room in Sandyford village. Lovely warm friendly small place. I've never been so happy with my hair. A lovely lady called Anita does it. Cannot praise the place enough - it's a gem.

ILoveYourVibes · 21-07-2020 7:52am

Samantha Old-fashioned Dimple wrote: »

If I know there's a specific stylist with this level of qualification that can definitely deliver what I'm looking for - and more importantly, where I can find them - I prioritize an inquiry there.

You are looking for a master stylist. And they will be more expensive. Maybe in somewhere like REDS a senior stylist would be able to help you.

I would expect to pay at least 60 for the kind of cut you are looking for.

You need a female or unisex hairdressers. Any master stylist should be able to do what you are looking for.

They cost more than lets say a junior stylist or a senior stylist.

Sometimes you can get really good junior stylists who are really interested in cutting etc and trying out weird cuts and get them to do it for cheaper. But you would always be risking mistakes and undertaking it with that understanding.

But a master stylist should be able to do it for you.

But be prepared not only for it to cost more ..but for it to take longer too.

MinnieMinx · 21-07-2020 8:49pm

If you want the best...

https://irishhairfed.com/championships/

Chances are if a salon produces award winners, even the more junior staff will be working at a higher level.

p.s. When you cut hair using precision cutting techniques, it doesn’t take longer to cut because each snip counts. You’re not wasting time having to re-cutting any sections when cross checking the cut. At most, you’re dusting it.

bo0li5eumx12kp · 21-07-2020 10:12pm

https://www.independent.ie/style/beauty/hair/top-10-irish-hairstylists-to-follow-on-instagram-31244438.html

If I saw someone reliably produce similar styles on instagram, then I'd be more confident.

I could go in some place, pony up some obscene fee, and come out with something I'm not remotely happy with.

The link outlines individual stylists with their instagram accounts.

But most of the accounts have pictures of wash basins and shop fronts - lol.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7wVEHrgQBL/?igshid=sjqjsn0dzvek

This was DM'd to me, but I'm locked out of instagram at the moment for some reason.

But yeah this dude does what I'm looking for - however, the price is quite frankly, too obscene.

I googled "master stylist dublin" and there's some spots on "south william st", but again, no idea if they can reliably do what I'm looking for.

Twee. · 22-07-2020 11:21am

I'm sorry if this comes across as harsh, but the style you're looking for is not too out of the ordinary or avant-garde, any good hair stylist should be able to manage that for you if your hair is long enough to cut the style in. Stylists and salons aren't going to have a picture of every single type of haircut they can do on the Insta feed. Dublin has, in my experience, very high standards of hairdressing, especially in the well-known names in the city; House of Colour, Toni & Guy Clarendon St, Style Club, Preen, Sugar Cubed (think now operating out of Brown Sugar premises), Zero One, or a high end barber like Davey & Davey or Sugar Daddy.

It's up to you to have a good conversation with the salon, show as many pictures as possible (I've literally gone in with Pinterest boards before committing to a colour), discuss what they can do with your hair to achieve that and discuss what you need to do at home to recreate the look - this is where a lot of people fall down, they get a cut that needs maintenance (either in home-styling or regular trims) but then complain it doesn't look good after doing it themselves or not getting it trimmed frequently enough.

If they can't do it, say your hair isn't long enough, they'll be able to make a different recommendation. This can all be done at a consultation, which can be a separate appointment to the actual cutting appointment. You can make it clear that you're looking for a big change and want to be sure before pulling the trigger. I think you need to pick one place and get the ball rolling

bo0li5eumx12kp · 10-08-2020 11:27pm

Kazumi - too pricey - no master stylist listed.

They do list "style director", but that doesn't = style master - does it?

This spot "Preen"....

PS - what is "upstyles" - what's mean?

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Styleclub - much more affordable.

But I see no mention of master stylist.

bo0li5eumx12kp · 10-08-2020 11:34pm

Sugar cubed:

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Zeba - based in Arnotts, similar prices.

bo0li5eumx12kp · 11-08-2020 12:12am

Twee. wrote: »

House of Colour, Toni & Guy Clarendon St, Style Club, Preen, Sugar Cubed (think now operating out of Brown Sugar premises), Zero One, or a high end barber like Davey & Davey or Sugar Daddy.

I'm quoting this as a reminder to investigate each suggestion.

House of color were mention on a couple of award lists in the other link.

Toni and Guy - have a nice style outlay that suggests they'd cater to what I'm looking for - but no prices listed.

Twee. · 11-08-2020 9:23am

Upstyle is getting your hair put up, like you might do for a wedding or other formal event.

Style Director is the highest level in many salons and would indicate many years of training and experience.

Some salons have different branches in different areas and prices might be different based on that so they're not listed in one place. Call them and ask.

bo0li5eumx12kp · 03-12-2020 2:37pm

Just gotta bump this as it's about that time again, and salons are opening again.

Few places are closed permanently after covid.

I had a few consultations in some of the recommended outlets previously and, decided not to proceed with them as I just felt they couldn't cater to what I was looking for.

But they were north side based parlors - gotta check out the places just north of Stephens green next, dawsons st etc.

Looking for recommendations for a really good hairdresser

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