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Dairy Chitchat 3

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  • #122
    Gawddawggonnit
    Registered Users Posts: 3,240 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    Waffletraktor wrote: »
    Id argue it's the copious amounts of poo in solid rather than liquid form giving the worms a bit of grub when there's not much grass residues to munch on you apply. Like anything if there's not grub there to feed on anything applied is a waste imo.

    +1.


  • #123
    Gawddawggonnit
    Registered Users Posts: 3,240 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    blackdog1 wrote: »
    75/25

    Out of interest...
    Why that mix, and why mix them?

    I presume that the wheat is from inter-farm trade and the maize is dry from merchants?


  • #124
    Gawddawggonnit
    Registered Users Posts: 3,240 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    Back to bloodstock transport again this morning, then away for a week tomorrow...sure what else would you be at?
    Planting for ‘19 will start the week after next...a new harvest in focus usually makes for redoubling of efforts.


  • #125
    blackdog1
    Registered Users Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭blackdog1


    Yea. We used to do just wheat and then found when we added maize we got better results. I'm using a 3 at mix of barley, wheat, maize... So we'll see how it goes. Oh and it's down to cost really maize it's making 220-225, green wheat and barley will probably be 180/190.


  • #126
    kevthegaff
    Registered Users Posts: 6,875 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    blackdog1 wrote: »
    Yea. We used to do just wheat and then found when we added maize we got better results. I'm using a 3 at mix of barley, wheat, maize... So we'll see how it goes. Oh and it's down to cost really maize it's making 220-225, green wheat and barley will probably be 180/190.
    Through the diet feeder?


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  • #127
    blackdog1
    Registered Users Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭blackdog1


    kevthegaff wrote:
    Through the diet feeder?

    Yea or you can use a bucket with an auger. When I first used it I used to bucket it into the parlour but that is pure hardship.


  • #128
    RightTurnClyde
    Registered Users Posts: 2,141 ✭✭✭RightTurnClyde


    I topped up the silage ground with 26 units of N on Thursday/Friday on the promise of rain last night.
    No rain just heavy mist. There's a cover of 2k on the silage ground, but it's starting to look stressed.
    Would the N be gone into the plant after 4 days. Thinking of doing a snatch and grab on the grass that's there, and try to take another light cut in 5 weeks.
    Or should I go with the 'grass grows grass' theory


  • #129
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,056 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    RightTurnClyde wrote: »
    I topped up the silage ground with 26 units of N on Thursday/Friday on the promise of rain last night.
    No rain just heavy mist. There's a cover of 2k on the silage ground, but it's starting to look stressed.
    Would the N be gone into the plant after 4 days. Thinking of doing a snatch and grab on the grass that's there, and try to take another light cut in 5 weeks.
    Or should I go with the 'grass grows grass' theory

    Mine was the same a few weeks ago. I cut it. I hadn't put fertiliser out recently on it though. It has grown really well since it was cut


  • #130
    Dakota Dan
    Registered Users Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    A top dairy farmer around here bought expensive bales of rushes for winter feed :eek: He's going to chop the rushes then put them through the diet feeder in winter. Either someone is telling porkies or else he's off his game.


  • #131
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    RightTurnClyde wrote: »
    I topped up the silage ground with 26 units of N on Thursday/Friday on the promise of rain last night.
    No rain just heavy mist. There's a cover of 2k on the silage ground, but it's starting to look stressed.
    Would the N be gone into the plant after 4 days. Thinking of doing a snatch and grab on the grass that's there, and try to take another light cut in 5 weeks.
    Or should I go with the 'grass grows grass' theory

    Could you get a sample to lombardstown or somewhere to test it, local teagasc office maybe?


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  • #132
    RightTurnClyde
    Registered Users Posts: 2,141 ✭✭✭RightTurnClyde


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Could you get a sample to lombardstown or somewhere to test it, local teagasc office maybe?

    Would tume be aginst me. From when they get the sample how long does it take them to get a result.


  • #133
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    RightTurnClyde wrote: »
    Would tume be aginst me. From when they get the sample how long does it take them to get a result.

    Afaik You should have results the same day, maybe best to give a ring in the morning. If you got that drizzly mist last night it may well have been enough to get it into the ground tho. Have ye had much dew at night?


  • #134
    mf240
    Registered Users Posts: 4,843 ✭✭✭mf240


    RightTurnClyde wrote: »
    I topped up the silage ground with 26 units of N on Thursday/Friday on the promise of rain last night.
    No rain just heavy mist. There's a cover of 2k on the silage ground, but it's starting to look stressed.
    Would the N be gone into the plant after 4 days. Thinking of doing a snatch and grab on the grass that's there, and try to take another light cut in 5 weeks.
    Or should I go with the 'grass grows grass' theory


    It's hard to know. If you cut it now and try for another cut it will be nearly Oct. Which could go either way. If you leave it bulk up and cut in 2 or so weeks and maybe get some grazing. Its really hard to know what's best. I'm in the same boat with a bit of silage


  • #135
    RightTurnClyde
    Registered Users Posts: 2,141 ✭✭✭RightTurnClyde


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Afaik You should have results the same day, maybe best to give a ring in the morning. If you got that drizzly mist last night it may well have been enough to get it into the ground tho. Have ye had much dew at night?

    Feck all dew. The rain of last weekend and last Wednesday just came as a light 30 mins drizzle. Same case as last night.
    I'll ring in the morning and see can organise a test, and let that make the decision for me


  • #136
    freedominacup
    Registered Users Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    RightTurnClyde wrote: »
    Would tume be aginst me. From when they get the sample how long does it take them to get a result.

    With Glanbia 5 mins in store. Fresh sample.


  • #137
    Reggie.
    Registered Users Posts: 24,362 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    mf240 wrote: »
    It's hard to know. If you cut it now and try for another cut it will be nearly Oct. Which could go either way. If you leave it bulk up and cut in 2 or so weeks and maybe get some grazing. Its really hard to know what's best. I'm in the same boat with a bit of silage

    We are noticing here tgat grass thats cut is growing back better and quicker than the grass that's left to bulk up


  • #138
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    freedominacup wrote: »
    With Glanbia 5 mins in store. Fresh sample.
    Local Teagasc office does it but has to be frozen overnight and left thaw the following morning before bringing it in? Results in a few minutes.


  • #139
    murrak123
    Registered Users Posts: 74 ✭✭murrak123


    What's the going rate for 2.5 hour relief milking. Will involve bringing in and out of cows, milking, wash down and setting up paddocks?


  • #140
    Reggie.
    Registered Users Posts: 24,362 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    murrak123 wrote: »
    What's the going rate for 2.5 hour relief milking. Will involve bringing in and out of cows, milking, wash down and setting up paddocks?

    Could be wrong but I think €40 an hour was thrown around a while back


  • #141
    Injuryprone
    Registered Users Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭Injuryprone


    murrak123 wrote: »
    What's the going rate for 2.5 hour relief milking. Will involve bringing in and out of cows, milking, wash down and setting up paddocks?

    50 per milking would be a fair price imo. That's assuming facilities are fairly good and you're not running around like a headless chicken for the 2.5 hours or horsing ration etc.

    Reggie, I'll milk for you anytime. For 1400/week I'll sell up here


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  • #142
    Reggie.
    Registered Users Posts: 24,362 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Injuryprone wrote: »
    50 per milking would be a fair price imo. That's assuming facilities are fairly good and you're not running around like a headless chicken for the 2.5 hours or horsing ration etc.

    Reggie, I'll milk for you anytime. For 1400/week I'll sell up here

    Like I said I could have been wrong but who gets relief milkers for every milking?


  • #143
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,056 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Injuryprone wrote: »
    50 per milking would be a fair price imo. That's assuming facilities are fairly good and you're not running around like a headless chicken for the 2.5 hours or horsing ration etc.

    Reggie, I'll milk for you anytime. For 1400/week I'll sell up here
    I pay 45 per milking here, thats for 40 cows in the winter or 150 in the summer , 15 unit parlour. Most of the time one of us is here to bring in cows or close them in etc


  • #144
    Snowfire
    Registered Users Posts: 352 ✭✭Snowfire


    murrak123 wrote: »
    What's the going rate for 2.5 hour relief milking. Will involve bringing in and out of cows, milking, wash down and setting up paddocks?

    Some lads could prove expensive even if they were willing to do it for free. €40-50/per milking generally depending on extras being asked to do.


  • #145
    wrangler
    Registered Users Posts: 11,047 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Like I said I could have been wrong but who gets relief milkers for every milking?

    yea, I think there's someone on here paying €100/milking and more at weekends, economy is improving people mightn't be as stuck for money now, five years ago it was probably better than nothing


  • #146
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    FRS charge a fixed fee for x amount of cows and so much extra per cow then. Think for 90 cows it comes to 55 or something once it doesn't go over 2.5 hours I think not sure on that now tho.


  • #147
    alps
    Registered Users Posts: 4,922 ✭✭✭alps


    The description of milking time can be pretty vague. I would describe it as from the time you arrive to the time that you leave..cluster on cluster off here in summer is 90mins, but we would describe as a 2 hour milking..no need to lock out cows as they always go in an upper gap..


  • #148
    Injuryprone
    Registered Users Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭Injuryprone


    Just a note on the FRS prices, AFAIK the FRS worker would be insured against letting antibiotics into the tank or forgetting to put the hose in the tank etc. So that would add a bit to the charge


  • #149
    carrollsno1
    Registered Users Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭carrollsno1


    Injuryprone wrote: »
    Just a note on the FRS prices, AFAIK the FRS worker would be insured against letting antibiotics into the tank or forgetting to put the hose in the tank etc. So that would add a bit to the charge

    I heard that the operator has to have done the new FRS milking course if you want the claim to be successful. Whether thats true or not now i dont know.

    Better living everyone



  • #150
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Most lads would have cover for part time workers and milk cover on their insurance policies anyway I assume?


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  • #151
    Timmaay
    Registered Users Posts: 11,394 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Have had a student of some description in here the last 2 summers, and for the busy part of calving. 2 of us in the parlour while there is any sorta grief with heifers etc the spring, and in the summer I only doing about 5 or 6 milkings max a week myself. They get paid the best part of 17e/hr for milking, and 10e/hr for general labour, suits all parties well I think, the most of them only want part time work while still in school/college. High enough turnover rate I'll admit, but endless supply of them out there, I've never had a problem getting in someone.


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