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patsy_mccabe · 09-01-2021 12:21am

Lime Tree Farm wrote: »

revive a flat battery - is it worth it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYXx70MqJ-0

You need a 200 amp charger.

i think my Lidl charger is only 5 amps.

Lime Tree Farm · 09-01-2021 9:11pm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

You need a 200 amp charger. i think my Lidl charger is only 5 amps.

I didn't realise that, that bit went over my head. Charger here, 8 amps, is years old.

Is a 200 amp for commercial use only?

stock> · 09-01-2021 9:32pm

Lime Tree Farm wrote: »

I didn't realise that, that bit went over my head. Charger here, 8 amps, is years old.

Is a 200 amp for commercial use only?

It is for jump starting, about 200 yoyo's would buy one........................

https://jebbtools.ie/collections/battery-chargers/products/sip-professional-startmaster-p440-12-24v

_Brian · 10-01-2021 9:05am

stock> wrote: »

It is for jump starting, about 200 yoyo's would buy one........................

https://jebbtools.ie/collections/battery-chargers/products/sip-professional-startmaster-p440-12-24v

When we had trucks round the place we had one of these. Very handy

funkey_monkey · 16-01-2021 4:43pm

Went to install a new yard light. Should have been a simple job. I just went into shed to connect the wiring and the job snowballed.
The electrician had installed conduit up to the corner and they was it.
And the rats have chewed into the cable, so a simple connection job has turned into a rewire.
Lucky to have spotted it but still something I could do without.
Will be rerouting the cable a different path to avoid this happening again.

Figerty · 16-01-2021 10:44pm

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Went to install a new yard light. Should have been a simple job. I just went into shed to connect the wiring and the job snowballed.
The electrician had installed conduit up to the corner and they was it.
And the rats have chewed into the cable, so a simple connection job has turned into a rewire.
Lucky to have spotted it but still something I could do without.
Will be rerouting the cable a different path to avoid this happening again.

Seriously dangerous. Bit of straw there to spark off... Good you found the flaw.
I also heard of a local who lost cows in a shed to a cable that grounded but didn't trip. Heart attack is easy to caues in cows apparenlty it ran down the steel into the feed barriers.

Need a cat?

funkey_monkey · 16-01-2021 11:15pm

Cats and bait too.
The cable was run around the top stick to the corner of the shed in conduit and just fed outside into a bulkhead light.
There is a loft in that corner for holding "stuff that might be useful some day" and it looks like birds and rats or mice have been using it to nest. No signs of fatalities so I guess that the culprit has lived to fight another day.

Upgrading to a led PIR so I'll reroute the conduit to go along the roof where they won't get at it as easily.
I think they only gnawed at it cause it was at their level.

Just goes to show the need for conduit and proper mechanical insulation for electrical wiring. If I did not go up there to change the light we could have sometime potentially lost a lot of machinery and stock.

I hope that it has got some others on here to take a peek at their wiring as if you asked me yesterday I would have said the shed was fine.

patsy_mccabe · 17-01-2021 9:50pm

Spent the last few days wiring new LED lights on my old Ifor Williams. New wiring, sockets and plugs. The whole lot. Plugged it in today and its not working. Fook. Double checked everything as I was going too.
Both LED lights have 4 wires, white, red, black, yellow (Cork and kilkenny). Wired left light as per colour. Wired right one, yellow on light to green and black on light to brown. Is this right?

I used the old wire running across the back from right to left, so maybe that's damaged some way.

zetecescort · 17-01-2021 10:22pm

Nothing at all working? Colours sound correct to me anyway. Have you tried plugging the trailer into another car/jeep/tractor

Base price · 17-01-2021 10:24pm

Fuse blown in the jeep?

emaherx · 17-01-2021 10:24pm

Did you keep the packaging/documents from the lights? I've come across some LED lights that use q completely different colour scheme compared to the standard trailer wiring scheme.

patsy_mccabe · 17-01-2021 10:35pm

These are the lights;
https://www.maypoleltd.com/product/mp8906-pair-led-combination-lamps/

I didn't have time to debug as it got dark. The old cheap board lights were working before I smashed them, so think the jeep side is ok.
Bit of a letdown though. Wanted to use it to tomorrow.

emaherx · 17-01-2021 10:55pm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

These are the lights;
https://www.maypoleltd.com/product/mp8906-pair-led-combination-lamps/

I didn't have time to debug as it got dark. The old cheap board lights were working before I smashed them, so think the jeep side is ok.
Bit of a letdown though. Wanted to use it to tomorrow.

Did you get nothing at all?
If no light at all then the earth would be the first thing to look at, you'd imagine at least one of the other wires would light something up even if it was the wrong coloured light.

Using the wrong wire as earth would cause no lights to light up as the LED's would be reverse biased. So if nothing lights up it might be worth checking if the lamp manufacturer used black as earth instead of the usual white.

dzer2 · 17-01-2021 11:27pm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Spent the last few days wiring new LED lights on my old Ifor Williams. New wiring, sockets and plugs. The whole lot. Plugged it in today and its not working. Fook. Double checked everything as I was going too.
Both LED lights have 4 wires, white, red, black, yellow (Cork and kilkenny). Wired left light as per colour. Wired right one, yellow on light to green and black on light to brown. Is this right?

I used the old wire running across the back from right to left, so maybe that's damaged some way.

Hi Patsy

The white is earth if this is not earth the lights won't work.
White earth
Red brakes
Black is tail lights
Yellow or green indicator

Hope this helps.

patsy_mccabe · 17-01-2021 11:47pm

Thanks lads. I'll rip into it tomorrow.

18-01-2021 6:20am

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Thanks lads. I'll rip into it tomorrow.

I spend a good share of time servicing machinery for silage.
On issues with trailers the problem 90% of the time is the connection at the plug.
Eithre tractor or trailer end .
A quick fix is to widen the pins slightly with a flat screw driver to force a better connection.
Always start at the tractor plug and work back.
A probe is a great tool for this .

As the lads are saying ,if nothing works , the earth is the common cable.
You might have wired this into the fog light pin by mistake . Ive seen lads do that. Or wire the plug backwards.
Also seen lads to put in a link wire in the plug for the black and brown for the parks.
If the tractor or jeep has a dodgy connection on one , you still get both back lights on

patsy_mccabe · 18-01-2021 3:45pm

I copped it first thing today. I had made about a 4 foot length myself with the 2 plugs instead of buying the one with the coiled wire. This to go from jeep to the socket on the trailer.
When you do this you have to mirror the wiring left to right on one of the plugs.
So,
Yellow, black and green are OK as is,
Switch red with blue
Switch brown with white.

Everything working now.

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Spent the last few days wiring new LED lights on my old Ifor Williams. New wiring, sockets and plugs. The whole lot. Plugged it in today and its not working. Fook. Double checked everything as I was going too.
Both LED lights have 4 wires, white, red, black, yellow (Cork and kilkenny). Wired left light as per colour. Wired right one, yellow on light to green and black on light to brown. Is this right?

I used the old wire running across the back from right to left, so maybe that's damaged some way.

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

These are the lights;
https://www.maypoleltd.com/product/mp8906-pair-led-combination-lamps/

I didn't have time to debug as it got dark. The old cheap board lights were working before I smashed them, so think the jeep side is ok.
Bit of a letdown though. Wanted to use it to tomorrow.

Limestone Cowboy · 18-01-2021 4:44pm

Bought a brand new Honda engine welder genny last week, used it for the first time today, burnt 3 rods perfectly and then nothing. Will make a few little sparks when you go to strike the rod but no way it will hold an arc, like the welder is turned down way too low for all the world. Had it set to 130 with 3.2 6013 rods and worked perfectly for the first few. Genny still working too, to say I am disappointed is a understatement. Anyone any ideas what's wrong? Checked all the leads and turned it all the way up to 200 amps to check it and it's still the same.

patsy_mccabe · 18-01-2021 5:02pm

Is there a thermal cut out in the welder? Let sit for an hour and try again.

Base price · 18-01-2021 5:08pm

What is the duty cycle rating for the welder. You may have overheated it and it cut off.
https://www.iedepot.ie/blog/welder-duty-cycle/
Patsy bet me too it.

Limestone Cowboy · 18-01-2021 5:34pm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Is there a thermal cut out in the welder? Let sit for an hour and try again.

There probably is but that's not the cause especially after 3 rods, they are going to collect it and get it repaired anyway. Gave enough for it because a friend has the same one and it has been bulletproof. I let it cool down and still not working, just a little spark when you try to strike the arc.

blue5000 · 18-01-2021 7:31pm

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

There probably is but that's not the cause especially after 3 rods, they are going to collect it and get it repaired anyway. Gave enough for it because a friend has the same one and it has been bulletproof. I let it cool down and still not working, just a little spark when you try to strike the arc.

Could be a bad earth LC. Maybe a loose connection on the welder end of the cable?

minerleague · 18-01-2021 8:11pm

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Bought a brand new Honda engine welder genny last week, used it for the first time today, burnt 3 rods perfectly and then nothing. Will make a few little sparks when you go to strike the rod but no way it will hold an arc, like the welder is turned down way too low for all the world. Had it set to 130 with 3.2 6013 rods and worked perfectly for the first few. Genny still working too, to say I am disappointed is a understatement. Anyone any ideas what's wrong? Checked all the leads and turned it all the way up to 200 amps to check it and it's still the same.

Have heard you can get spikes with generator which can damage welder, reading again is it all in one machine ?? Dont know if so

SuperTortoise · 18-01-2021 9:29pm

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Bought a brand new Honda engine welder genny last week, used it for the first time today, burnt 3 rods perfectly and then nothing. Will make a few little sparks when you go to strike the rod but no way it will hold an arc, like the welder is turned down way too low for all the world. Had it set to 130 with 3.2 6013 rods and worked perfectly for the first few. Genny still working too, to say I am disappointed is a understatement. Anyone any ideas what's wrong? Checked all the leads and turned it all the way up to 200 amps to check it and it's still the same.

Some of them i used years ago had a switch to run either the plugs or the welder, you would'nt have it switched to run plugs by any chance?
Outside of that i'm not sure.

foxy farmer · 18-01-2021 10:00pm

Does it weld AC or DC. IF DC it could be the rectifier goosed. Are there 110 220 on it? Are they working?

Limestone Cowboy · 18-01-2021 10:01pm

No I had it switched to weld alright, had checked the leads and thought they seemed ok but might try the ones off the inverter tomorrow just to be sure.

patsy_mccabe · 18-01-2021 10:05pm

Is it an invertor welder? They seem really delicate. Too many pcb's in them.

Limestone Cowboy · 18-01-2021 10:14pm

Ya it's AC, 110 and 230v plugs are working grand. No not an inverter.

Nekarsulm · 21-01-2021 7:09pm

Little bit of welding work, converted this Twose bale spike from one to two tines.

emaherx · 21-01-2021 7:21pm

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Little bit of welding work, converted this Twose bale spike from one to two tines.

Nice work.
Was it something else before? Seems a strange design with just 1

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