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Flying in dublin 30m

  • 28-12-2020 12:35pm
    #1
    site_owner
    Registered Users Posts: 955 ✭✭✭


    Hi everyone, I'm interested in getting a drone and thinking of a fimi x8 which I've seen recommended we decent spec/price


    General question before I spend money on a drone that I haven't been able to answer confidently through my own reading.
    Is the general rule in dublin = stay below 15m and 30m away from car/building/people?

    I ask because I'd mainly be interested in filming overview of streets in suburban areas. If that's illegal then it's a waste of my money I think. I see lots of videos like this but I am not sure if they are technically legal etc.

    If it's not allowed for amateur operators is it expensive / difficult to get the permissions and training needed.


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  • #2
    MaddChris
    Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭MaddChris


    30m is from people not under your control
    You have to be over 150m away from buildings/structures so thats urban areas completely out of the question.


  • #3
    un5byh7sqpd2x0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭un5byh7sqpd2x0


    MaddChris wrote: »
    30m is from people not under your control
    You have to be over 150m away from buildings/structures so thats urban areas completely out of the question.

    And now for the actual regulations which bear zero comparison to your post...

    drone-dos-and-dontsc30d7591c3ff6e66b7b5ff0000aadb04.jpg

    https://www.iaa.ie/general-aviation/drones


  • #4
    MaddChris
    Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭MaddChris


    Dogg Munde wrote: »
    And now for the actual regulations which bear zero comparison to your post...

    [img][/img]https://www.iaa.ie/images/default-source/tiles/innerpages/1x1/drone-dos-and-dontsc30d7591c3ff6e66b7b5ff0000aadb04.jpg

    https://www.iaa.ie/general-aviation/drones
    Meant 120m
    150m was a typo

    Point out what else I said wrong?

    Actually, if you are flying a class 3/4 drone its is 150m
    The IAA image you posted is obsolete by Friday.


  • #5
    site_owner
    Registered Users Posts: 955 ✭✭✭site_owner


    Oh, that's something I wasn't aware of The law says 30mtrs so I guess it's been updated?
    (c) at a distance of less than 30 metres from a person, vessel, vehicle or structure not under the direct control of the operator;

    The new guidelines I read online still said 30m so I'm glad i asked
    537389.jpg

    In relation to the other question, are people generally just ignoring the law or is there a way to get permission easily?


  • #6
    un5byh7sqpd2x0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭un5byh7sqpd2x0


    MaddChris wrote: »
    Meant 120m
    150m was a typo

    Point out what else I said wrong?

    30m from people, it’s also 120m


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  • #7
    un5byh7sqpd2x0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭un5byh7sqpd2x0


    site_owner wrote: »
    Oh, that's something I wasn't aware of The law says 30mtrs so I guess it's been updated?



    The new guidelines I read online still said 30m so I'm glad i asked
    537389.jpg

    In relation to the other question, are people generally just ignoring the law or is there a way to get permission easily?

    Yes, Regulation (EU) 2019/947 is now in effect since 1 July


  • #8
    MaddChris
    Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭MaddChris


    Dogg Munde wrote: »
    30m from people, it’s also 120m
    120m is on longer applicable in 2021


  • #9
    MaddChris
    Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭MaddChris


    Dogg Munde wrote: »
    Yes, Regulation (EU) 2019/947 is now in effect since 1 July
    January 1st 2021


  • #10
    MaddChris
    Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭MaddChris


    site_owner wrote: »
    Oh, that's something I wasn't aware of The law says 30mtrs so I guess it's been updated?



    The new guidelines I read online still said 30m so I'm glad i asked


    In relation to the other question, are people generally just ignoring the law or is there a way to get permission easily?
    If you abide by class 0/1/2 then yes it's 30m
    Sorry about that confusion.

    Yes a lot of people are ignoring the laws or most likely are just ignorant.
    The only way to get around the laws put in place for hobbyists is to become certified and insured.


  • #11
    site_owner
    Registered Users Posts: 955 ✭✭✭site_owner


    Thanks for all that.

    So of it's class <2 only 30mtr applies?

    If it's a class 1 drone (I think the fimi is ~750gr) does the 30m apply at all (not clear from above table).


    It's just for hobby use, if there's no halfway between hobby training and full commercial rules then it would probably rule me out.


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  • #12
    Crumplecorn
    Registered Users Posts: 9 ✭Crumplecorn


    Unless you're dealing with a CE marked drone (I don't think there are any yet, but I haven't looked in a while) your drone doesn't have a class and is treated the same as self-built, so only classes A1 and A3 apply to you, A1 if under 250g, A3 otherwise. A2 is a whole other kettle of fish with extra testing and such, so as a hobbyist you'll likely be ignoring it anyway.

    Your best option right now is to wait for an actual CE marked drone in C1 (idk if drones like the Fimi will be updated to gain a class). Next best option is a Mavic Mini or Mini 2 which is <250g and so can fly in A1 anyway.

    A1 allows flying over people (preferably avoiding doing so) and has no strict limits on distance from inanimate objects. But of course flying in a 'hazardous manner' is not allowed, so don't think this is permission to fly down the middle of a busy street in dublin city centre.

    As for altitude limits in dublin, it's 15m without special permission except inside a bunch of zones defined in U04, there's a link to that near the bottom of the IAA drones page. Flyryte also have an airspace map which shows the same info more clearly.

    IANAL.


  • #13
    fritzelly
    Registered Users Posts: 17,230 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Wow that is some restrictions

    Someone is constantly flying a drone around where I am (south Dublin city) - definitely less than 120 meters


  • #14
    Streetlamp
    Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭Streetlamp


    I'm going to be controversial here.

    Buy the drone you want and do what you want just use common sense and don't put anyone/anything in danger.


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