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Dairy Chitchat 3

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    #1502
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,078 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Seal went on one of the plates on the in plate cooler during washing. Cut myself bad. Like a scene from a horror movie. Hateful cnut of a job


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    #1503
    Sacrolyte
    Registered Users Posts: 851 ✭✭✭Sacrolyte


    Hate that job


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    #1504
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,078 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Sacrolyte wrote: »
    Hate that job

    Milk recording too, just to make it worse


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    #1505
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Any of ye adjusting the dry cow period to account for gestation length? Gonna dry off a row 2moro but looking at the calving pattern in feb may be as well to do two rows, cows are going in fulltime 2moro will leave the dries out to soak up


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    #1506
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users Posts: 11,071 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Any of ye adjusting the dry cow period to account for gestation length? Gonna dry off a row 2moro but looking at the calving pattern in feb may be as well to do two rows, cows are going in fulltime 2moro will leave the dries out to soak up
    Nothing dry here bar 1 till dec 7 fully dry 22/12 .id be comfortable to due date minus a week ,


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    #1507
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Nothing dry here bar 1 till dec 7 fully dry 22/12 .id be comfortable to due date minus a week ,

    When's your first one due and your last one due? First one due here Jan 28. Last one may 2.

    A few other variables here as well in that testing in Dec so if any go down that'd be freshly dried I'd get caught with meat withdrawal and also as switching to spring have a share of cows at 370 days in milk as well.
    Should have 84% calved by March 20 but of the ones after that only 5 would milk on well so thinking best bet would be to dry off before Xmas if I go clear.


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    #1508
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users Posts: 11,071 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    01 feb first due date ,last 10/4 .using cephaguard and sealer .cephaguard has 35 day withdrawal and cows go straight to tank on third milking


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    #1509
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Did sensitivity test here and cepravin was recommended . Sealers only came in yday, only got enough for 30 cows, ordered with 6 weeks.


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    #1510
    Sacrolyte
    Registered Users Posts: 851 ✭✭✭Sacrolyte


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    01 feb first due date ,last 10/4 .using cephaguard and sealer .cephaguard has 35 day withdrawal and cows go straight to tank on third milking

    Can’t bate a drop of Beistings on the ole cornflakes.


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    #1511
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users Posts: 11,071 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Sacrolyte wrote: »
    mahoney_j wrote: »
    01 feb first due date ,last 10/4 .using cephaguard and sealer .cephaguard has 35 day withdrawal and cows go straight to tank on third milking

    Can’t bate a drop of Beistings on the ole cornflakes.
    Passed all tests zero issues


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    #1512
    trixi2011
    Registered Users Posts: 1,535 ✭✭✭trixi2011


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    01 feb first due date ,last 10/4 .using cephaguard and sealer .cephaguard has 35 day withdrawal and cows go straight to tank on third milking

    Any problems with using cephagaurd and quality assurance in ireland this year . Not allowed use it under red tractor in the UK now


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    #1513
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users Posts: 11,071 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    trixi2011 wrote: »
    mahoney_j wrote: »
    01 feb first due date ,last 10/4 .using cephaguard and sealer .cephaguard has 35 day withdrawal and cows go straight to tank on third milking

    Any problems with using cephagaurd and quality assurance in ireland this year . Not allowed use it under red tractor in the UK now
    None I know of ,bought it last week and have used it for last 2 years


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    #1514
    trixi2011
    Registered Users Posts: 1,535 ✭✭✭trixi2011


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    None I know of ,bought it last week and have used it for last 2 years
    Big clamp down on 4th generation drugs in the UK . Got caught out badly with ceprivin this spring so was hoping to go back to 35 day tube not many available with new rules


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    #1515
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users Posts: 11,071 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    trixi2011 wrote: »
    mahoney_j wrote: »
    None I know of ,bought it last week and have used it for last 2 years
    Big clamp down on 4th generation drugs in the UK . Got caught out badly with ceprivin this spring so was hoping to go back to 35 day tube not many available with new rules
    Ubro red is simillar I think then orbenin extra is 42 days I think


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    #1516
    alps
    Registered Users Posts: 4,927 ✭✭✭alps


    trixi2011 wrote: »
    Any problems with using cephagaurd and quality assurance in ireland this year . Not allowed use it under red tractor in the UK now

    Do you know why?


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    #1517
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    alps wrote: »
    Do you know why?

    More of a chance of resistance to 4th gen drugs I think?


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    #1518
    Gawddawggonnit
    Registered Users Posts: 3,244 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    trixi2011 wrote: »
    Any problems with using cephagaurd and quality assurance in ireland this year . Not allowed use it under red tractor in the UK now

    Same here.


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    #1519
    Gawddawggonnit
    Registered Users Posts: 3,244 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    We’d 180mm last weekend so cows out to grass from Monday next.
    First grass since July...

    As I was walking through the cubicles this morning there was a cow left there while the rest were being milked. Big hassle to get her in...turns out she had twins in Aug and was a bit thin, so I suggested to milk her once a day without saying for how long...


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    #1520
    greysides
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,971 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    Some posts have been moved to the Kerry Share Conversion thread as it's a more appropriate thread.
    Available here.

    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

    Adam Grant



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    #1521
    Gawddawggonnit
    Registered Users Posts: 3,244 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/108633319/poisoning-for-profit-why-greenpeace-wants-to-get-rid-of-synthetic-nitrogen

    Maybe the Kiwis could get the French DGSE to do another job on them down under?


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    #1522
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    What's the highest cover ye would carryover the winter?. Wettish paddock but good access


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    #1523
    Timmaay
    Registered Users Posts: 11,394 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Mooooo wrote: »
    What's the highest cover ye would carryover the winter?. Wettish paddock but good access

    I got a few of them paddocks and the aim is to strip graze with calves whenever I can, be it mid Jan or so, growth still powering on now so an 800 cover could be 1400 mid Jan and if ground conditions good then I'll graze, it didn't get wet wet till late Feb here last yr and there were big covers on wet ground that I couldn't graze until may then. It's all a movable feast here, I'll graze when I can, the maidens are what I usually use to graze the winter but I do remember letting the milking cows graze one of the wettest heaviest paddocks here on 22nd Jan 2yrs ago!


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    #1524
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    It's cow's would be best to clean this off tbh. I'll chance leaving it till spring and shir twill be a lesson learnt if not suitable.


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    #1525
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,078 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Cows still out day and night. They are in the silage ground during the day. Took an hour to get them home this evening. Full as ticks. Will probably go in on Friday. Mad year


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    #1526
    Keep Sluicing
    Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭Keep Sluicing


    Gawddawggonnit wrote: »
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/108633319/poisoning-for-profit-why-greenpeace-wants-to-get-rid-of-synthetic-nitrogen

    Maybe the Kiwis could get the French DGSE to do another job on them down under?

    I do think derogation will be done away with in Ireland, but it will be closer to 10 years time than 5. And we may have a a limit closer to 130kgs N than 170.
    While it may be a bad thing for farmers, we will have to deal with it.


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    #1527
    Icelandicseige
    Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Icelandicseige


    Does anyone know a general cost for putting in a Slatted tank from digging to building walls to putting on slats..?


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    #1528
    visatorro
    Registered Users Posts: 3,098 ✭✭✭visatorro


    whelan2 wrote:
    Cows still out day and night. They are in the silage ground during the day. Took an hour to get them home this evening. Full as ticks. Will probably go in on Friday. Mad year


    Milkers are in two weeks. Ground in good order just ran out of grass. Everything in bar weanlings grazing reseeded ground. Selling calves as soon as possible and have a couple of culls to shift next week. Not going to carry the same stock as last year.
    I'm tired after the year I have to say.


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    #1529
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Cow's in today, freshly dried batch outside to soak up. Dried all cows due before Feb 14, suited matching cubicle space to milkers and dries as well. Cepravin and boviseal. Will have calves out hopefully for another few weeks everything else will be in by midweek bar a couple of cull cow's and the bulls


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    #1530
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    An interesting link, Jersey cows have a different feeding behaviour to Holstein cows, spreading their feeding out more during the day and chewing the cud more.

    https://hoards.com/article-24392-jersey-cows-eat-differently.html


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    #1531
    mf240
    Registered Users Posts: 4,843 ✭✭✭mf240


    Buford T. Justice V wrote: »
    An interesting link, Jersey cows have a different feeding behaviour to Holstein cows, spreading their feeding out more during the day and chewing the cud more.

    https://hoards.com/article-24392-jersey-cows-eat-differently.html

    Completely unscientific but we had a handful of jex and they never stop eating. First into parlour for meal and first out to paddock for grass. And when bulling they lose the run of themselves all together very easy to detect. I've grown fond of the little feckers


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