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    #32
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    hullaballoo wrote: »
    No foal, no fee is a standard arrangement for PI plaintiffs and their legal advisers up to and including trial.

    The same arrangement is common in other areas of practice too where there is litigation involving the assertion of legal rights and remedies by people who but for such an arrangement would not be in a position to litigate.

    Plenty of contributors on this thread are affronted at the idea of even the PIAB process being no win no fee


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    #33
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    hullaballoo wrote: »
    This approach is baffling. You are going to spend tens of thousands being obstructive in the knowledge that you're going to lose at the end anyway and have to pay damages and two huge (due to your shenanigans) sets of costs?

    Don't get me wrong, my interests align with this approach to defending PI claims because it makes a case that would otherwise be worth a few hundred now worth a few thousand all because a defendant gets a bee in their bonnet and wants to fight a losing battle.

    It's great for lawyers but difficult to see how it makes any sense to you.

    How can you be sure they will lose?


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    #34
    Masala
    Registered Users Posts: 3,462 ✭✭✭Masala


    hullaballoo wrote: »
    This approach is baffling. You are going to spend tens of thousands being obstructive in the knowledge that you're going to lose at the end anyway and have to pay damages and two huge (due to your shenanigans) sets of costs?

    Don't get me wrong, my interests align with this approach to defending PI claims because it makes a case that would otherwise be worth a few hundred now worth a few thousand all because a defendant gets a bee in their bonnet and wants to fight a losing battle.

    It's great for lawyers but difficult to see how it makes any sense to you.

    I never said we are going to lose our case. We wouldn’t defend it if we were wrong. So we don’t expect to be paying any costs.... our applicant is thinking this whole PIAB is going to cost him nothing anf that we will not want the publicity. However—- we want the publicity as we want to get the messag3 out that we are no fools and and if u want to sue us you better not do so thinking we will do deals to avoid bad press.


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    #35
    BattleCorp
    Registered Users Posts: 11,758 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Deleted User wrote: »
    How can you be sure they will lose?

    Sometimes when you successfully defend a personal injury claim, you still lose out financially. If your costs are huge and you get awarded your costs, realistically you have little chance of recovering those costs.

    Sometimes it's cheaper to pay out without a fight than it is to fight. It kills me that we are stuck with that system, but that's the way it often is.


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    #36
    randomrb
    Registered Users Posts: 351 ✭✭randomrb


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    Sometimes when you successfully defend a personal injury claim, you still lose out financially. If your costs are huge and you get awarded your costs, realistically you have little chance of recovering those costs.

    Sometimes it's cheaper to pay out without a fight than it is to fight. It kills me that we are stuck with that system, but that's the way it often is.

    This is where there is a massive problem in Ireland with insurance companies. It is up to them to decide when to settle and often they don't contest liability which means they make a payout where they could have won but you as the insurance holder are the ones that end up with a higher premium even if you may not have been at fault


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