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15-03-2019, 07:16   #136
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The Ministry of Defence has announced that it pay all his legal bills UK Defence Minister Gavin Williamson said ""We are indebted to those soldiers who served with courage and distinction to bring peace to Northern Ireland"
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-47540271
Peace my arse! They started some of the violence in NI.
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15-03-2019, 08:21   #137
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The full judgement:
https://static.rasset.ie/documents/n...p1u6zEpARaySYM
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Will never get to trial. Britain has a long history of atrocities and war crimes against civilians all over the globe that they will never be held accountable for. None of which is ever mentioned in the british education system so for the most part people are arrogant of the facts.

Funnily the paras deny it even though testimony from other soldiers who were there admit that the people shot were not armed and did not provoke.

Cowards and criminals the lot of them.
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15-03-2019, 08:59   #139
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Will never get to trial.
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No justice at all only 1 scumbag charged. I hope people that buy poppies later this year know these are the fcuckers that you are giving money to.
I'll be buying one and wearing it with pride. A very poor attempt to sully the poppy on your part.
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I'll be buying one and wearing it with pride. A very poor attempt to sully the poppy on your part.



He doesn't have to "sully" it, thats british armys job (and one they've carried out quite well).
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I'll be buying one and wearing it with pride. A very poor attempt to sully the poppy on your part.
These men and their commanding officers and the entire judicial system that conspired to cover-up this for decades have done enough to 'sully' it on this island alone, I should think. Not to mention other outstanding actions.
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No justice at all only 1 scumbag charged. I hope people that buy poppies later this year know these are the fcuckers that you are giving money to.
I'll be buying one and wearing it with pride. A very poor attempt to sully the poppy on your part.
The paratroopers sullied the poppy by killing innocent civilians.
You continue if you want but you are supporting the totality of the British army, including the several atrocities worldwide.
Bloody sunday is only one.
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The paratroopers sullied the poppy by killing innocent civilians.
You continue if you want but you are supporting the totality of the British army, including the several atrocities worldwide.
Bloody sunday is only one.
Wouldn't bother kicking off another poppy debate. Those that wear it only get more determined to wear it when questioned about it. Best to ignore it and not give the symbol any credence whatsoever.

One man's hero is another man's murderer.
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15-03-2019, 09:38   #144
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the people shot were not armed and did not provoke.
In this picture taken minutes before the firing on Bloody Sunday you can get an idea of the tensions at the time. All of the stones / rocks on the road do not justify shots / firing.
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/b...lace-1.2424550
Just because two policemen (one Catholic and one Protestant) were shot in Derry only three days before Bloody Sunday does not justify violence on the day itself. The soldiers should have followed the rule of law. No excuse for soldiers for firing live rounds , or indeed for the IRA man (who Fr. Daly saw and testified about firing three rounds) either. There were innocent people killed that day and that was wrong.
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These men and their commanding officers and the entire judicial system that conspired to cover-up this for decades have done enough to 'sully' it on this island alone, I should think. Not to mention other outstanding actions.
It may be sullied in the eyes of the nationalist community on the northern part of island and the republican community south of the border, two communities who have questionable morals as is but the rest of the people on the island understand what it stands for. It'll be worn and celebrated with pride later this year, as usual.
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It may be sullied in the eyes of the nationalist community on the northern part of island and the republican community south of the border, who have questionable morals as is but the rest of the people on the island understand what it stands for. It'll be worn and celebrated with pride later this year, as usual.

O we understand exactly what it stands for.
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It may be sullied in the eyes of the nationalist community on the northern part of island and the republican community south of the border, two communities who have questionable morals as is but the rest of the people on the island understand what it stands for. It'll be worn and celebrated with pride later this year, as usual.
I have no doubt it will be worn. But those wearing it will be telling themselves lies. The result of this process in Derry alone underlines that.
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On another note, barely a mention of this on TV3 or the Beeb this morning. Thought they'd be all over it.

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O we understand exactly what it stands for.
Good stuff. It's used to commemorate military personnel who have died in war. All on the same page.

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I'll be buying one and wearing it with pride. A very poor attempt to sully the poppy on your part.
It might be a poor attempt but the conduct of the British army is doing a very good job of sullying the poppy.
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It may be sullied in the eyes of the nationalist community on the northern part of island and the republican community south of the border, two communities who have questionable morals as is but the rest of the people on the island understand what it stands for. It'll be worn and celebrated with pride later this year, as usual.
Beserker I work in New York, Colorado and England. Disgust with Bloody Sunday and the behavioural of soldiers in Northern Ireland isn't confined to the nationalist community of Northern Ireland. Bloody Sunday is all I've been hearing about in America and the Americans will be watching very closely for justice to be served.
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