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The Feather Controversy (Split from Game News and Releases thread)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,014 ✭✭✭✭Corholio


    Whenever these stories come up the rejection of it is always 'does this mean we can't wear/have this random object so' etc, completely missing the purpose and intended oppression that the 'object' was used for in the first place. Not all of these things are 'equal'.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,526 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Corholio wrote: »
    Whenever these stories come up the rejection of it is always 'does this mean we can't wear/have this random object so' etc, completely missing the purpose and intended oppression that the 'object' was used for in the first place. Not all of these things are 'equal'.

    "So, does this mean because vegans I can't wear a leather thong anymore???, It's political correctness gone mad!"


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,485 ✭✭✭✭Banjo


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    "So, does this mean because vegans I can't wear a leather thong anymore???, It's political correctness gone mad!"

    Ah now you've put a weird question into my head about vegans that I'm eventually going to ask a vegan in an inappropriate setting.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,526 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Banjo wrote: »
    Ah now you've put a weird question into my head about vegans that I'm eventually going to ask a vegan in an inappropriate setting.

    My work here.... is done...

    Hey, maybe they can help you with Dark Souls as well!


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,485 ✭✭✭✭Banjo


    Dark Souls helps those who help themselves. So I did. I helped myself to a copy of Diablo III and haven't looked back.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,948 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    I'm not getting this. How is the feather a stereotype? It's a fact, they wore them? What does them being a minority group have to do with anything or that they were oppressed?

    Game and Watch is a silhouette, I didn't even know this was an animation in SSBU. My point is this is people stirring the pot. Look at another fighter, Street Fighter to be exact and look at Thunder Hawk, did anyone create a stink about him? He wears a feather, 2 in fact. And he wears war paint, how very stereotypical of Capcom. Get the pitchforks and torches.
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    Is this not worse, if people are being all politically correct?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,014 ✭✭✭✭Corholio


    It's not just the feather. He's an indian wearing a loincloth, feather and carrying a torch to burn down the fort. This is the 'savage' stereotype for Indians. There's lots of different types of Native Americans, this was the one stereotypical image they used to portray a bad guy in the game.

    It doesn't mean it's the only thing in the world that's important, it's just a small thing in a game that has an outdated reference that was changed. T. Hawk has been mentioned loads of times before as being pretty stereotypical, even more so than this case. He always makes those 'Most Stereotypical Characters in Gaming' lists.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,526 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    sligeach wrote: »
    I'm not getting this. How is the feather a stereotype? It's a fact, they wore them? What does them being a minority group have to do with anything or that they were oppressed?

    Game and Watch is a silhouette, I didn't even know this was an animation in SSBU. My point is this is people stirring the pot. Look at another fighter, Street Fighter to be exact and look at Thunder Hawk, did anyone create a stink about him? He wears a feather, 2 in fact. And he wears war paint, how very stereotypical of Capcom. Get the pitchforks and torches.
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    Is this not worse, if people are being all politically correct?

    Well, seeing as you brought it up.
    Googling "ThunderStreet fighter, stereotype" brings plenty of articles on the matter

    https://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2012/05/the-15-most-stereotypical-characters-in-video-games/dalsim-street-fighter

    Which would suggest that, just because a person isn't aware a thing is questionable, doesn't make it not questionable. A point which I pretty much made some posts ago.


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