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Ionity charging network

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  • #122
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 64,702 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Cashel is an excellent location. You could make it from Dublin to say Schull (350km) with one charge in Ioniq

    I've never been to west Cork. Always wanted to go to west Cork and once this 6 bay charger is there I can, without having to worry about broken chargers or queuing up behind a bunch of cars going to take at least an hour each with all the family onboard. When can we expect this one to be up and running realistically?


  • #123
    ELM327
    Registered Users Posts: 21,318 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    unkel wrote: »
    Cashel is an excellent location. You could make it from Dublin to say Schull (350km) with one charge in Ioniq

    I've never been to west Cork. Always wanted to go to west Cork and once this 6 bay charger is there I can, without having to worry about broken chargers or queuing up behind a bunch of cars going to take at least an hour each with all the family onboard. When can we expect this one to be up and running realistically?
    Unless you get 6 slow charging i pace or kona ahead of you :p


  • #124
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 64,702 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Highly unlikely in the next few years. And even when so, then it is quite likely one of the 6 that are charging is about to leave and you're next. Even with 12 ahead of you it will take no more than an hour. And that's probably worst case scenario mid 2020. Both have enough range to rarely / never have to stop for an expensive Ionity charge. Leaving them all for us :p

    The Leaf 40 is selling like hotcakes. Imagine arriving at a public fast charger with 6 of them ahead of you. Might as well book a hotel so...


  • #125
    ELM327
    Registered Users Posts: 21,318 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    unkel wrote: »
    Highly unlikely in the next few years. And even when so, then it is quite likely one of the 6 that are charging is about to leave and you're next. Even with 12 ahead of you it will take no more than an hour. And that's probably worst case scenario mid 2020. Both have enough range to rarely / never have to stop for an expensive Ionity charge. Leaving them all for us :p

    The Leaf 40 is selling like hotcakes. Imagine arriving at a public fast charger with 6 of them ahead of you. Might as well book a hotel so...
    I was only kidding.
    A CCS only charger (even with one charger only) would be welcome as it means most slow charging EVs cant use it.
    6 of them means reliable available charging en route and that is very much welcome.


  • #126
    bp_me
    Registered Users Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭bp_me


    Drawings are now uploaded. Chargers placed far away from pumps and at furthest point in the car park from the buildings.


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  • #127
    ELM327
    Registered Users Posts: 21,318 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    bp_me wrote: »
    Drawings are now uploaded. Chargers placed far away from pumps and at furthest point in the car park from the buildings.
    The way they should be. Like Tesla in Ballacolla.


  • #128
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 64,702 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    ELM327 wrote: »
    The way they should be. Like Tesla in Ballacolla.

    All it takes is one imbecile though

    459716.jpg

    Took this myself at Ballacolla not long after the Tesla superchargers opened...


  • #129
    Orebro
    Registered Users Posts: 1,233 ✭✭✭Orebro


    This is seriously fantastic news and it makes a trip from Dublin to Cork a pleasant experience with an Ioniq and other CCS cars. Imagine sitting in the 6 bay charging away at 70kw (or higher?), waving at the other mugs queuing on the single free charger hoping nobody with #rapidgate disease arrives (not taking a cheap shot, this is the reality of the public free network at the moment). I would gladly pay the 10/20 whatever euro for this EV utopia.

    Also agree - even in the unlikely event all 6 are in use when you get there you'd very likely only be waiting a few mins max for one to free up.

    And unkel get yourself to West Cork man - no better place for a summer vacation.


  • #130
    Orebro
    Registered Users Posts: 1,233 ✭✭✭Orebro


    bp_me wrote: »
    Drawings are now uploaded. Chargers placed far away from pumps and at furthest point in the car park from the buildings.

    Also great news - I wish all chargepoints were like this - furthest reaches of the carpark as possible.


  • #131
    KCross
    Registered Users Posts: 12,066 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    unkel wrote: »
    When can we expect this one to be up and running realistically?

    The planning decision is due 18 Oct.
    I presume site works could proceed at that point if granted. I'd imagine the long pole item here will be getting the ESB to do their bit as, according to the planning submission, it requires a new MV substation to support it.

    That's not a "run a few wires" type thing! :)

    I doubt they'd get it operational this year but maybe early next? Depends really on whether they have contractors and ESB lined up or not.

    Note, they already submitted this application a month ago and it was rejected as an "incomplete application". That usually just means they didn't have all the paperwork in order so any technicalities could push it out again. Maybe a rare snail around there somewhere! :)


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  • #132
    ELM327
    Registered Users Posts: 21,318 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    So is this the first location to come on stream, didnt they have a number of planning permissions?


  • #133
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 64,702 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    KCross wrote: »
    I doubt they'd get it operational this year but maybe early next?

    By early summer next year would do me :D

    But of course the sooner the better. Unfortunately the Monasterevin and Gormanstown locations are not great for Dublin area based EVs. Too close to Dublin.


  • #134
    JohnnyJohnJohns
    Registered Users Posts: 310 ✭✭JohnnyJohnJohns


    unkel wrote: »
    By early summer next year would do me :D

    But of course the sooner the better. Unfortunately the Monasterevin and Gormanstown locations are not great for Dublin area based EVs. Too close to Dublin.

    Is monasterevin a definite? It seems strange given Ionity is being rolled out through Circle K in Ireland. The only reference I see to it is from The Times but it would seem like an odd location given there is a Circle K better located on the M7.


  • #135
    Soarer
    Registered Users Posts: 8,857 ✭✭✭Soarer


    unkel wrote: »
    By early summer next year would do me :D

    But of course the sooner the better. Unfortunately the Monasterevin and Gormanstown locations are not great for Dublin area based EVs. Too close to Dublin.

    I'm assuming these are for the Cork-Dublin-Cork brigade, similar to Cashel being for the Dublin-Cork-Dublin shower?


  • #136
    patsryan
    Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭patsryan


    JohnnyJohnJohns wrote: »
    Is monasterevin a definite? It seems strange given Ionity is being rolled out through Circle K in Ireland. The only reference I see to it is from The Times but it would seem like an odd location given there is a Circle K better located on the M7.


    Nothing is definite until its built! There is only one planning application (so far) by Ionity for chargers and thats in Cashel.


    The map that leaked originally showed 9 locations across the country near
    • Limerick
    • Cork
    • Waterford
    • Dublin
    • Dundalk
    • Galway
    • Sligo
    • Derry
    • Belfast


  • #137
    Dardania
    Registered Users Posts: 3,612 ✭✭✭Dardania


    It's a shame they don't show here: http://www.ionity.eu/locations/


  • #138
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Dardania wrote: »
    It's a shame they don't show here: http://www.ionity.eu/locations/


    Unless they have planning they can't really show locations......


  • #139
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 64,702 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Wasn't aware the only real planning application was for Cashel.

    Perhaps the 9 original dots were just showing the biggest population centres and they are meaningless when it comes to where the actual chargers will be?

    I sure hope so, we need the chargers on main motorways / national roads. Not in cities.


  • #140
    liamog
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 7,792 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    Somewhere between Newry and Sprucefield would be ideal ...


  • #141
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 64,702 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    liamog wrote: »
    Somewhere between Newry and Sprucefield would be ideal ...

    Ideal for Ioniqs based in Dublin alright :p


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  • #142
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    unkel wrote: »
    Wasn't aware the only real planning application was for Cashel.

    Perhaps the 9 original dots were just showing the biggest population centres and they are meaningless when it comes to where the actual chargers will be?

    I sure hope so, we need the chargers on main motorways / national roads. Not in cities.


    Charger in cities or town(e.g. Navan) just become a second home charger


    Then when someone who really needs it arrives, it is blocked


  • #143
    Orebro
    Registered Users Posts: 1,233 ✭✭✭Orebro


    No way they're going to put these in towns and cities - the most money is to be made from people looking for a charge or two on a long journey. Cities and towns means they are too close to homes where leccy is dirt cheap.


  • #144
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 64,702 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    And I hope they are expensive :D


  • #145
    irishgrover
    Registered Users Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭irishgrover


    unkel wrote:
    And I hope they are expensive


    Again, relax with the hopes of exorbitant charging :-) They just need to be more expensive than home charging to stop the locals from using them unnecessarily......


  • #146
    McGiver
    Registered Users Posts: 4,366 ✭✭✭McGiver


    Sorry folks if it was already discussed.

    How do you think Nissan will react to this?

    Why having two competing quick charger sockets/standards? Not counting Tesla alright.

    CCS is Euroamerican and Chademo is essentially Japanese. It makes no sense to maintain a Japanese standard in Europe (and the US) while competing with the local standard with much stronger backing.

    Either expand Chademo in Asia and Australia but switch to CCS in cars for for EU and US market or propose merger and/or interoperability of both standards. The current situation is unsustainable.

    Also next year's Leaf battery is too large for standard Chademo. They will need to act quickly.


  • #147
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 64,702 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    McGiver wrote: »
    How do you think Nissan will react to this?

    I expect Nissan Ireland to do nothing. I'd go one step further: I expect many / most / all of the local Nissan dealer FCP to die out over time, not to be repaired and not to be replaced with new faster ones. Nissan EVs in Ireland will all have CCS only charging from the next generation. Hell Nissan might even want to join Ionity :D


  • #148
    KCross
    Registered Users Posts: 12,066 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    unkel wrote: »
    Nissan EVs in Ireland will all have CCS only charging from the next generation.

    If that happens then I'd agree ChaDeMo would clearly be dead in this country then but they are not making any noises in that direction and they seem to be actively testing their ChaDeMo V2G tech in the UK and increasing speeds to 100kW.

    I just cant see them moving away from ChaDeMo unless their hand is forced somehow and if they did they would alienate their existing customers in UK/Ireland and US. Not something they will do lightly and I doubt they would retrofit CCS.

    Its hard to predict the market because it aint moving as fast as we'd like it to.


  • #149
    KCross
    Registered Users Posts: 12,066 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    McGiver wrote: »
    Either expand Chademo in Asia and Australia but switch to CCS in cars for for EU and US market or propose merger and/or interoperability of both standards. The current situation is unsustainable.

    Ultimately its just an extra lead on the charger. Its not that big an issue.

    McGiver wrote: »
    Also next year's Leaf battery is too large for standard Chademo.

    Why? The current ChaDeMo standard supports 150kW, I think. You just need to install the chargers. Not likely to happen here in the medium term though as eCars have only tendered for 50kW chargers.

    You can still charge a 60kWh Leaf on a 50kW existing charger though. If they get the active cooling right this time it would be OK even for long distance.


  • #150
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 64,702 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    KCross wrote: »
    they are not making any noises in that direction and they seem to be actively testing their ChaDeMo V2G tech in the UK and increasing speeds to 100kW.

    I just cant see them moving away from ChaDeMo unless their hand is forced somehow


    Agreed, Nissan mightn't change to CCS if they are not forced, but the Leaf already is the only EV you can buy in this country with CHAdeMO. It is an obsolete charging standard.

    Personally I have no confidence in the public sector keeping the public charging network up with the increase in EV use. If I had a CHAdeMO car and needed regular public charging, I'd be worried for what the next few years would bring.


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  • #151
    Soarer
    Registered Users Posts: 8,857 ✭✭✭Soarer


    Don't think Chademo is dead just yet.

    China and Japan in Chademo love-in


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