BusConnects Dublin - Big changes to Bus Network

I do understand your point about the Airlinks being commercial routes. It was probably best not include those routes in these proposals.

Meanwhile; I did have a look at the new proposed routes in my area which is Fleurville & Newtownpark Avenue.

I will highlight the routes serving this area which are called the S8, 221, 222, 225, 226, 227 & 229.

The first two routes there are the S8 from Dun Laoghaire to Tallaght & 225 from Dun Laoghaire to Dundrum. Both of these routes while they leave Dun Laoghaire go through the current 4 terminus on Monkstown Avenue. When these routes break up at Benamore Road; the 225 will go straight onto Stillorgan then Kilmacud & terminates at Dundrum Luas stop. The S8 on the other hand will turn left off Benamore Road and continue along the current 114 route onto Blackthorn Drive. Then it will along Green Route, Brehon Field, Ballinteer, Grange Road, Taylor's Lane, Scholarstown Road, St's Columba's, Kilininny Road, Old Bawn & Tallaght.

I heard some talk about the 225 before on the C&T forum on boards a long while back. It was meant to be a new feeder route for the Luas & the DART between Dun Laoghaire serving Dundrum & Balally Luas stop nearby. Correct?

The 227 takes up the route of the current 114 from Blackrock DART Station up to St Augustine's School in Carysfort Avenue; then it turns left to Fleurville, Rowanbyrn, Stradbrook Road, Abbey Road, Pottery Road, Cabinteely, Cornelscourt, Glenamuck & I presume finishing at Ballyogan Avenue which somehow meets up nearby the 226 route from Blackrock near the Luas line just after Ballyogan. I have currently have no idea where the 226 will properly finish it's route when it will begins from Blackrock as I haven't read everything about it while going through the full report.

When the 226 begins in Blackrock DART Station; it will go up through Temple Hill, Stradbrook Road, Deansgrange, Clonkeen Road, Cornelscourt, Old Bray road, Glenamuck & then it continues up somewhere near the 227 route which also begins from Blackrock. I would prefer to read more detail at these two routes will end up when going from Blackrock because the proposed map doesn't show their official termini properly.

One route that is omitted from this area is the 63 from Dun Laoghaire to Kilternan. This is replaced with a new route that is called the 229 which goes from Dun Laoghaire to Bride's Glen Luas which is explained further on in my post.

I had a look at the rest of the proposed Dun Laoghaire routes as well. There have some changes highlighted in some of these proposals.

The 59 here is now called the 221 from Dun Laoghaire to Killiney. I presume that route will be run by Go Ahead Ireland?

There is no 111 available at all while looking at these proposals. This route is replaced with 2 separate routes called the 222 & 229. They both have routes beginning & ending at Dun Laoghaire & Brides Glen although the routes given to them are going through different locations within the Dun Laoghaire area.

The full route of the 222 is just a section of the current 7 route between Dun Laoghaire & Brides Glen.

The 229 however takes up the route of the current 63 to Bakers Corner; then it heads down through Rochestown Avenue to Bride's Glen via Loughlinstown Park. This route would replace the current 7a and 111 which currently serve Loughlinstown Park. The 229 is also proposed to serve the current 111 loop at Loughlinstown Roundabout near St Columcille's Hospital.

There is also a new route in the area called the 211 which goes from Dun Laoghaire to Kilmacanogue. I presume that this will be the new look 45a which is to be run by Go Ahead Ireland? As I'm looking at the proposed route map; this bus takes up a new section of the route while leaving Dun Laoghaire. It is proposed to go up through areas like York Road, Mounttown Road, Glenageary Road Lower, Sallynoggin Roundabout, Sallynoggin Church, Glenageary Heights and then continues on it's normal route to Kilmacanogue like the current 45a.

Looking at the routes from the E spine along the N11; there are two main routes there are known as the E1 & E2.

The E1 will go from Bray DART Station to Northwood near Ballymun. This route goes along the N11 to Bray like the current 145.

The E2 will go from Dun Laoghaire to Charlestown Shopping Centre in Finglas. The route will go along the N11 like the current 46A.

These routes I'd imagine will solve the current capacity issues for passengers along the N11 while going to/from Dublin for their regular commute. This move could also remove the need for current routes like the 7B, 7D, 46E, 116 & 118. I would imagine though that a lot of people will be disappointed in them being eventually scrapped off the N11 corridor.

There is some other routes that I found interesting while looking at other areas of Dublin.

I see there is a new number 20 route going from Tallaght to College Green. I suppose this new route is a merge of both the 49 & 54A between these two areas. There is also the 14 being rerouted with the new route going from Dundrum to Liffey Valley. There is also the unusual numbering of the 63 route going from Docklands to Fortunestown.

I want to ask what happens to Go Ahead when they start operating in Dublin from September. Do they continue operating some of these new proposed routes if they made an updated agreement with the NTA when these routes are changed or not?

cherryghost wrote: »

It's another part. 39/39a replaced with B1 and B2, which link to a hub near M3. On brink there's a local 261 which loops around Clonsilla, Coolmines, S.Ballycorden and the Blanch Hub. Increased frequency on B1 and B2 routes offpeak.

A hub!! So longer bus journeys then.

Patww79 wrote: »

Yep. Absolute joke.

The 39a route will be split into 2 routes

B1 - will run as the usual 39a far as centre, then after the centre will then follow the current 39x route to ongar

B2 - will run as the usual 39a as far as centre, then follow the current 39 route to ongar

There will be also a peak hour express bus from hartstown to ringsend

loyatemu wrote: »

the 84X is unchanged apart from the number (it becomes 301 in the plan). It was the lack of a local service for Southern Cross I was referring to as the Finnegans route doesn't seem to be considered part of the wider network.

Ah I see. I've had a look at the full report now that I'm at home.

I'm happy that the 84X/301 will remain.

As Finnegan's are a private company with the licence to operate from the southern cross to Bray train station and on to Sandyford, I can't see them including this route in their plans.

I note on the Finnegan's timetable that the last bus reaches the end of the southern cross at 8:15pm. I'm sure the people that live there would like a later service and that this should be looked into.

L1011 wrote: »

It has to be near the footbridge as the primary purpose is to allow people to transfer to the C spine without having to walk across the carpark. I would presume there will be a CPO of some of the carpark there and realignments of the internal roads to allow for same.

All four of the C routes will be running past with a peak 3min frequency and skipping Chapelizod so they'll be in town in no time. May need some priority works at Johns Road West but there are buslanes most of the way including the priority measures at the Kylemore Road junction.

Get rid of the Oval junction and baby you got a stew going.