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Jack Burton's adventures in Arcade restoring

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  • #62
    [Deleted User]
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    Can you switch mobos?


  • #63
    [Deleted User]
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    BrownFinger wrote: »
    Can you switch mobos?

    Can’t with hotd2 as it uses a different motherboard it’s the first or second revision Naomi motherboards they had extra hardware and a unique bios.. I’ve had one of these boards before and they won’t boot any other cart without at least a bios change


  • #64
    DaveyDave
    Registered Users Posts: 6,179 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    As someone with no experience or knowledge of arcade stuff this is all very interesting.

    Also as someone who likes to build PCs, I'm enjoying the troubleshooting aspect of this a lot.


  • #65
    Jack burton
    Registered Users Posts: 5,772 ✭✭✭Jack burton


    Just in contact with someone with Naomi stiff for sale.

    Probably going to get a new mobo off him for crazy taxi and put in a proper PSU with that. If the new EPROM doesn't work

    HOTD2 I'll do some more testing tomorrow and see what's what. Thinking about getting a naomi 2 and running that piforce in it. Give me access to the other Naomi shooters on the cab then too, depending on prices too of course


  • #66
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭[Deleted User]


    If your swapping out the Naomi save a few quid and get a Naomi 1 as there’s no shooters on Naomi 2, although if you got a 2 you could put it in crazy taxi which would allow you to play the initial d games also and put the Naomi 1 in the hotd2


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  • #67
    [Deleted User]
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    Mozie, is it true these initial d is **** without having a memory card setup??


  • #68
    Jack burton
    Registered Users Posts: 5,772 ✭✭✭Jack burton


    Deleted User wrote: »
    If your swapping out the Naomi save a few quid and get a Naomi 1 as there’s no shooters on Naomi 2, although if you got a 2 you could put it in crazy taxi which would allow you to play the initial d games also and put the Naomi 1 in the hotd2

    Good idea, once I get either one working I can take it from there.

    Even having the 3 crazy taxi games in the cab would be worth the naomi 2


  • #69
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭[Deleted User]


    Only crazy taxi 1 is on Naomi though, 2 was home consoles and 3 was on chihiro.. still you have the initial d’s, club kart, jambo, 18 wheeler etc can all be run on it with piforce tools.. need to swap around around a couple of wires on the io for some games but nothing to tricky the pinout is available online..also because it’s jvs wired you can put a chihiro or triforce straight in down the line for some outrun 2, wangan series or Mario kart gp.. :)


  • #70
    Jack burton
    Registered Users Posts: 5,772 ✭✭✭Jack burton


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Only crazy taxi 1 is on Naomi though, 2 was home consoles and 3 was on chihiro.. still you have the initial d’s, club kart, jambo, 18 wheeler etc can all be run on it with piforce tools.. need to swap around around a couple of wires on the io for some games but nothing to tricky the pinout is available online..also because it’s jvs wired you can put a chihiro or triforce straight in down the line for some outrun 2, wangan series or Mario kart gp.. :)

    Oh didn't realise 3 was chihiro. Yeah probably worth it for the switch up of games really. Im a big crazy taxi fan but always nice to be able to switch out a game for a while after you play the crap out of it


  • #71
    Jack burton
    Registered Users Posts: 5,772 ✭✭✭Jack burton


    So got a tiny bit more last night done.

    Had a good look at HOTD cart and mobo. The chips that are failing the the test are on the motherboard and the EPROM on the game cartridge. So looking like a new motherboard needed for that. Unless there's another solution?

    Managed to get a working Naomi 1 for a good price and thanks to the very generous Last Bandit I have a new PSU on the way. So hopefully a those 2 new parts will sort out the crazy taxi. Fingers crossed I can get that sorted by the weekend and get it all cleaned up


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  • #72
    Optimus Prime
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,380 Mod ✭✭✭✭Optimus Prime


    Can you not just replace the chips ?


  • #73
    Jack burton
    Registered Users Posts: 5,772 ✭✭✭Jack burton


    Optimus Prime wrote: »
    Can you not just replace the chips ?

    Well desoldering about 200+ legs and installing new ones is probably a bit out of my skillset. But pretty sure the chips aren't on regular Naomi boards, only the revision 1 boards. I could be wrong though, I'll have to double check


  • #74
    Optimus Prime
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,380 Mod ✭✭✭✭Optimus Prime


    Ah sorry I assumed they where they where your bog standard chips off arcade pcbs. You know with 16 , 20 legs or whatever you could remove and put a socket in.


  • #75
    [Deleted User]
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    Good news for you today a patched copy of house of the dead 2 has been released over on arcade-projects which can be run on a regular Naomi..perfect timing!! Of course you’ll need a netdimm/pi or cf drive but will save you searching for rev 1 board and cart..

    https://www.arcade-projects.com/forums/index.php?thread/1073-games-fixed-to-work-with-dimm/&postID=12053#post12053


  • #76
    KeRbDoG
    Registered Users Posts: 4,211 ✭✭✭KeRbDoG


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Good news for you today a patched copy of house of the dead 2 has been released over on arcade-projects which can be run on a regular Naomi..perfect timing!! Of course you’ll need a netdimm/pi or cf drive but will save you searching for rev 1 board and cart..

    https://www.arcade-projects.com/forums/index.php?thread/1073-games-fixed-to-work-with-dimm/&postID=12053#post12053

    But a gun is needed right? :)


  • #77
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭[Deleted User]


    Yes still requires gun I/o, relay and sensors :) basically the unique bios info has been patched into the image .. pretty cool


  • #78
    BGOllie
    Registered Users Posts: 1,592 ✭✭✭BGOllie


    mm. might look into that and turn the second naomi cab into a shooter .


  • #79
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭[Deleted User]


    BGOllie wrote: »
    mm. might look into that and turn the second naomi cab into a shooter .

    There was some work done on a jvs emulator for pi which allowed wiimote to be used on a Naomi was pretty impressive when I tried it but not sure if it’s been worked on since..the files are on github


  • #80
    Jack burton
    Registered Users Posts: 5,772 ✭✭✭Jack burton


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Good news for you today a patched copy of house of the dead 2 has been released over on arcade-projects which can be run on a regular Naomi..perfect timing!! Of course you’ll need a netdimm/pi or cf drive but will save you searching for rev 1 board and cart..

    https://www.arcade-projects.com/forums/index.php?thread/1073-games-fixed-to-work-with-dimm/&postID=12053#post12053

    Perfect. Thanks for the mozie. Just paid for a new Naomi 1 board for crazy taxi so I'll leave HOTD2 on the back burner till that's sorted out


  • #81
    The Last Bandit
    Registered Users Posts: 3,717 ✭✭✭The Last Bandit


    BGOllie wrote: »
    mm. might look into that and turn the second naomi cab into a shooter .

    I'd be sticking a Dreamcast/PS2/Saturn in there along with RGBS->VGA converter for a decent selection of light gun games.


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  • #82
    [Deleted User]
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    BGOllie wrote: »
    mm. might look into that and turn the second naomi cab into a shooter .

    If you didn’t want to go to the bother of getting the gun I/o, sensor bezels etc you can pick up an S-JIHP JVS helper and use a standard gun .. handy for drivers too I had a Dreamcast wheel wired up to one.


  • #83
    Jack burton
    Registered Users Posts: 5,772 ✭✭✭Jack burton


    Huge thanks to the last bandit for sending me down a few Naomi bits. Have an official PSU now so I'll get to de-hacking the one that's in there at the moment and get the few boards sorted out.

    I'll post up pics of everything. Because I'll probably need a hand of what way to get everything wired up. Could be a mess under all that duct tape and blue paper


  • #84
    Jack burton
    Registered Users Posts: 5,772 ✭✭✭Jack burton


    So I'm getting a new bios for the Naomi 1 running crazy taxi. Anyone know what one I should get?


  • #85
    KeRbDoG
    Registered Users Posts: 4,211 ✭✭✭KeRbDoG


    Doesn't seem like the current multi-bios is a good idea with 18-wheeler


  • #86
    [Deleted User]
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    KeRbDoG wrote: »
    Doesn't seem like the current multi-bios is a good idea with 18-wheeler

    10-4 good buddy


  • #87
    Jack burton
    Registered Users Posts: 5,772 ✭✭✭Jack burton


    BrownFinger wrote: »
    10-4 good buddy



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd5ZLJWQmss


  • #88
    Jack burton
    Registered Users Posts: 5,772 ✭✭✭Jack burton


    So finally have an update for this.

    Got a new Naomi motherboard today and it boots! I was getting some "crazay money!" For a few mins before the game started kind of glitching.

    This onscreen menu started popping up after a few minutes of gameplay and cycling through options and changing that randomly it seems. Any ideas?

    bFhPFRh.jpg


  • #89
    80s Synth Pop
    Registered Users Posts: 710 ✭✭✭80s Synth Pop


    Jack burton wrote: »
    So finally have an update for this.

    Got a new Naomi motherboard today and it boots! I was getting some "crazay money!" For a few mins before the game started kind of glitching.

    This onscreen menu started popping up after a few minutes of gameplay and cycling through options and changing that randomly it seems. Any ideas?

    bFhPFRh.jpg

    Open the control panel and press the test button. Cycle through all the options there including input tests (any ghost inputs found?)


  • #90
    Jack burton
    Registered Users Posts: 5,772 ✭✭✭Jack burton


    Already tried that and service button brought up the menu but the buttons were unresponsive ffor navigating the menu and it eventually just exited out


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  • #91
    80s Synth Pop
    Registered Users Posts: 710 ✭✭✭80s Synth Pop


    It might be different with crazy taxi but usually you use the service 1 and service 2 buttons to go up an down the test menu then press p1 start to select the option.


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