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Iran Did Do It..............says Trump

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    #902
    Gringo180
    Registered Users Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    Gatling wrote: »
    The Iranian leadership Have being exporting terror for numbers of decades do you think the people of Iran want that either

    The Iranian leadership are moderates compared to the nuts who have been in charge of the country before, and look what happens when the moderates sit down with the Americans they get stabbed in the back.

    By the way, I have never seen you slate the Americans the way you have of Iran on this thread, and your quote above is also true and even worse in the case of your beloved U.S. of A.

    When was the last time Iran has attacked or invaded another country?


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    #903
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,972 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Gatling wrote: »
    Isreal supposedly.

    ............




    ....no supposedly about it. What did Israel do with its nuclear program? Build a butterfly and flowers farm?


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    #904
    Gringo180
    Registered Users Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    Gatling wrote: »

    Who's being killing their own population for wanting change....

    Saudi Arabia?

    They have chopped the heads off 37 dissidents in the last few months.

    Among those executed is Abdulkareem al-Hawaj – a young Shi’a man who was arrested at the age of 16 and convicted of offences related to his involvement in anti-government protests. Under international law, the use of the death penalty against people who were under the age of 18 at the time of the crime is strictly prohibited.
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    #905
    Limpy
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    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Saudi Arabia?

    They have chopped the heads off 37 dissidents in the last few months.

    And remember the journalist khasoggi who was mutilated in the Saudi embassy.

    Iran must of sneaked in and did that to frame Saudi Arabia.

    What next, Iranian passports found in ground zero.


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    #906
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Saudi Arabia?

    Iran , every other post from you is Saudi ,


    Go start a thread and tell us all everything you know about saudi.

    Deflect , deflect deflect

    Iran Through it's proxies in Yemen very recently

    Didn't think that through
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    #907
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Odhinn wrote: »
    ....no supposedly about it. What did Israel do with its nuclear program? Build a butterfly and flowers farm?

    And nothing about the Iranian leadership killing unarmed protesters no ...
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    #908
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,972 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Gatling wrote: »
    Iran , every other post from you is Saudi ,


    Go start a thread and tell us all everything you know about saudi.

    Deflect , deflect deflect


    A bit much from you. The current state of Iran is a result of US interference and Israeli attacks. The US supports the Saudi sectarian campaign against Iran and is complicit in the subjugation of shia islam in the gulf states.


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    #909
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Odhinn wrote: »
    A bit much from you. The current state of Iran is a result of US interference and Israeli attacks.

    So basically not got the stomach to discuss iran slaughtering unarmed protesters but America did this and America did that ...

    Nothing new so
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    #910
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,972 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Gatling wrote: »
    So basically not got the stomach to discuss iran slaughtering unarmed protesters but America did this and America did that ...

    Nothing new so


    Go find a post where I replied favourably to the iranian regime.



    Are you denying Americas role in undermining Iranian democracy? Are you denying Israels sponsorship of anti-Iranian terrorism? Are you denying saudi arabias sectarian campaign against ordinary shia muslims in the gulf region?


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    #911
    Gringo180
    Registered Users Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    Gatling wrote: »
    Iran , every other post from you is Saudi ,


    Go start a thread and tell us all everything you know about saudi.

    Deflect , deflect deflect

    Iran Through it's proxies in Yemen very recently

    Didn't think that through

    You love victim blaming the Iranians. Your just too blinded by your imperialistic views of the world to see it.


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    #912
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Odhinn wrote: »

    Are you denying Americas role in undermining Iranian democracy?

    Iran is no democratic country they have sham elections where only selected candidates are allowed run ,by the cleric's and Revolutionary guard .

    Ask why russia and china to a degree supplied the material to push Iran along its nuclear program , America is not the only players in this
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    #913
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Gringo180 wrote: »
    You love victim blaming the Iranians.

    Please stop making stuff up ,

    It got old 5000 threads ago
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    #914
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,972 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Gatling wrote: »
    Iran is no democratic country they have sham elections where only selected candidates are allowed run ,by the cleric's and Revolutionary guard .

    Ask why russia and china to a degree supplied the material to push Iran along its nuclear program , America is not the only players in this




    America not being the only player absolves them of supporting the country that originated the extremist islam that massacred innocents everywhere from India to London and even the states itself? Because there aren't head choppers running around in the name of shia islam.


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    #915
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Odhinn wrote: »
    America not being a player absolves them of supporting the country that originated the extremist islam that massacred innocents everywhere from India to London and even the states itself?

    I've never said America is innocent or they haven't made serious ****ing mistakes but there is other countries involved too ,
    But certain posters are only interested in anti US agendas

    I don't support American foreign policies , trump ,Bolton ,I didn't support the invasion of Iraq 2nd time around ,nor do I believe Saudi are a beacon of hope and democracy and decency (they absolutely do not belong in the civilised or on the UN councils)


    But if people on here want to go back to the battle of little big horn (another disaster) to say America did this and America did that.
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    #916
    archer22
    Registered Users Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    You would think it was Iran that had the Samson option and Yinon plan if you believed some of yankee/Zionist hasbara posting here :D.

    Oh well they got to earn their wine and ciggies allowance I suppose ;)


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    #917
    Limpy
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    Gatling wrote: »
    I've never said America is innocent or they haven't made serious ****ing mistakes but there is other countries involved too ,
    But certain posters are only interested in anti US agendas

    I don't support American foreign policies , trump ,Bolton ,I didn't support the invasion of Iraq 2nd time around ,nor do I believe Saudi are a beacon of hope and democracy and decency (they absolutely do not belong in the civilised or on the UN councils)


    But if people on here want to go back to the battle of little big horn (another disaster) to say America did this and America did that.


    Because this whole fiasco is engineered by the US and Israel.

    Your only nit picking Iranian local issues to justify your agenda.


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    #918
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users Posts: 81,154 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Hammond Lane wouldn't take the ship the Iranians seized.


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    #919
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Limpy wrote: »

    Your only nit picking Iranian local issues to justify your agenda.

    Next account please
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    #920
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Gatling wrote: »
    I've never said America is innocent or they haven't made serious ****ing mistakes but there is other countries involved too ,
    But certain posters are only interested in anti US agendas

    I don't support American foreign policies , trump ,Bolton ,I didn't support the invasion of Iraq 2nd time around ,nor do I believe Saudi are a beacon of hope and democracy and decency (they absolutely do not belong in the civilised or on the UN councils)


    But if people on here want to go back to the battle of little big horn (another disaster) to say America did this and America did that.

    It not anti US agenda to point out their flawed foreign policy.Citizens of countries suffer greatly from this agenda.

    You have never thought it may not be all Iran fault here. Iran signed a nuclear deal and all countries agreed it was working. Iran never stepped out of line. Trump removed the United States from a signed agreement. They have caused this mess not Iran. You never once said Trump messed up here and should have worked with Iran to get a better deal!

    There very few countries US has brought democracy to. Libya and Syria are still effectively in turmoil. Iraq still suffering from war and ISIS. Should we just sit back and watch Iran be bombed and in the end nothing will really change?


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    #921
    1o059k7ewrqj3n
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭1o059k7ewrqj3n


    Gatling wrote: »
    I've never said America is innocent or they haven't made serious ****ing mistakes but there is other countries involved too ,
    But certain posters are only interested in anti US agendas

    I don't support American foreign policies , trump ,Bolton ,I didn't support the invasion of Iraq 2nd time around ,nor do I believe Saudi are a beacon of hope and democracy and decency (they absolutely do not belong in the civilised or on the UN councils)


    But if people on here want to go back to the battle of little big horn (another disaster) to say America did this and America did that.

    Were you not asked ages ago in this thread which country was responsible for putting the Taliban in power, only to reply it was Pakistan?


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    #922
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Steyr 556 wrote: »

    Yawn ......
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    #923
    Jimmy Garlic
    Registered Users Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    Gatling wrote: »
    Iran is no democratic country they have sham elections where only selected candidates are allowed run ,by the cleric's and Revolutionary guard .

    Ask why russia and china to a degree supplied the material to push Iran along its nuclear program , America is not the only players in this

    I hope they do develop nukes, soon, Israel wouldn't be long running back under Americas skirt. US saying it shot down a drone that was shadowing one of its ships, saying Iran is esclating tensions. Iran has every right to observe the activities hostile forces loitering around its borders.


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    #924
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

    You never once said Trump messed up here and should have worked with Iran to get a better deal!

    I have repeatedly said I don't support trump or American foreign policies on multiple threads but yet here we are again you don't do this and you don't do this while America did this and America did that ,
    While conveniently ignoring all other countries involvements and atrocities.

    And sorry Iran isn't completely innocent in all of this Obama got the deal , trump ripped it up ,
    Iran has been exporting terror for decades they are involved from Afghanistan ,Iraq and yemen Syria ,gaza Lebanon
    And as I previously said on here sooner or later they will get hit because of their own actions .

    Not the actions of the population but the cleric's and military leaders foised on them.
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    #925
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Jimmy Garlic wrote: »
    I hope they do develop nukes, soon, Israel wouldn't be long running back under Americas skirt.

    Israel would strike Iran if they do develop nukes so that's a pretty stupid suggestion ,
    You can bet one thing the moment Iran declared they have a fully operational nuke ,
    Iran as we know it would cease to exist in my opinion
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    #926
    ArchXStanton
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    Steyr 556 wrote: »
    Were you not asked ages ago in this thread which country was responsible for putting the Taliban in power, only to reply it was Pakistan?

    Funny,he seems to pull these things from thin air...like when I asked him who invited the US troops into Syria who we all damn well know were there illegally and he told me the Kurds did...still waiting on that link to back it up...


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    #927
    Jimmy Garlic
    Registered Users Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    Gatling wrote: »
    Israel would strike Iran if they do develop nukes so that's a pretty stupid suggestion ,
    You can bet one thing the moment Iran declared they have a fully operational nuke ,
    Iran as we know it would cease to exist in my opinion

    Two or three medium yield nukes would obliterate Israel and well they know it. They would suddenly want diplomacy after all the years of trash talking if Iran had nukes in its possession. The myth of invincible Israel was buried when Hezbollah turned their tanks into scrap metal in southern Lebanon, it was a turkey shoot.


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    #928
    1o059k7ewrqj3n
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭1o059k7ewrqj3n


    Gatling wrote: »
    Israel would strike Iran if they do develop nukes so that's a pretty stupid suggestion ,
    You can bet one thing the moment Iran declared they have a fully operational nuke ,
    Iran as we know it would cease to exist in my opinion

    Israel struck very speedily when Iraq was developing a nascent Nuclear program. Iran, in comparison, is years, if not, decades ahead of where Iraq was, and yet despite US attempts such as Stuxnet and multiple assassinations, appears no closer to ending the Iranian nuclear program.

    Maybe, just maybe, certain elements of the US establishment, especially in the military and intelligence communities, hold the possibility of an Iranian nuclear weapon over Israel, possible as a carrot and stick type program?


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    #929
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Jimmy Garlic wrote: »
    Two or three medium yield nukes would obliterate Israel

    The myth of invincible Israel was buried when Hezbollah turned their tanks into scrap metal in southern Lebanon, it was a turkey shoot.

    Not necessarily true ,
    On the tuning tanks into scrap metal , they lost a handful most were actually put back into service between 3 weeks to 6 months later so your making that up (looking for a reaction) .....

    Now tell us how they will get their 2-3 nukes into Israel ,
    It's not so easy to launch a rocket large enough to carry any nuclear warhead and either not get intercepted or hammered before they make it to a launcher ,
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    #930
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    On the Iranian drone getting shot down -
    Rumour has it it wasn't shot down instead marines in off road vehicle aboard the USS boxer used a new antidrone system to disable and crash the drone
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    #931
    Jimmy Garlic
    Registered Users Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    Gatling wrote: »
    Not necessarily true ,
    On the tuning tanks into scrap metal , they lost a handful most were actually put back into service between 3 weeks to 6 months later so your making that up (looking for a reaction) .....

    Now tell us how they will get their 2-3 nukes into Israel ,
    It's not so easy to launch a rocket large enough to carry any nuclear warhead and either not get intercepted or hammered before they make it to a launcher ,

    The Emad missile is well capable of delivering a nuclear payload and Iran has missile silos.


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