Broken property at gym

Tara4 · 19-10-2019 3:31pm #1

I was working out in the gym today and it appears that through my own negligence I may have damaged a Spanish girls beats headphones.

I was doing a bicep curl with a bar and I couldn't find any weight pins for the bar. I tried lifting without the pins and the weights fell and possibly damaged the headphones.

I'm wondering what position this leaves me in legally ? I gave the girl my number and she said she would charge the headphones and tell me whether they were working.

I've watched enough judge Judy to know that I possibly have to make this girl 'whole'. By that I mean I might have to replace these headphones with ones of commiserate value ie. Second hand beats headphones.

If this girl gives me proof that the headphones are broken. I will need proof that she has tried to repair them. Or indeed written proof that they are beyond repair.

What position am I in legally? Should I expect the gym's insurance to cover it ? How much for a second hand pair of beats headphones ?

Thanks

PrettyBoy · 19-10-2019 3:34pm

Tara4 wrote: »

Should I expect the gym's insurance to cover it ? How much for a second hand pair of beats headphones ?

What planet are you on

if they're broken as a result of you dropping weights on them then do the right thing and buy her a new pair (ie. brand new from a retailer).

Cockadoodledoo · 19-10-2019 3:34pm

Tara4 wrote: »

I was working out in the gym today and it appears that through my own negligence I may have damaged a Spanish girls beats headphones.

I was doing a bicep curl with a bar and I couldn't find any weight pins for the bar. I tried lifting without the pins and the weights fell and possibly damaged the headphones.

I'm wondering what position this leaves me in legally ? I gave the girl my number and she said she would charge the headphones and tell me whether they were working.

I've watched enough judge Judy to know that I possibly have to make this girl 'whole'. By that I mean I might have to replace these headphones with ones of commiserate value ie. Second hand beats headphones.

If this girl gives me proof that the headphones are broken. I will need proof that she has tried to repair them. Or indeed written proof that they are beyond repair.

What position am I in legally? Should I expect the gym's insurance to cover it ? How much for a second hand pair of beats headphones ?

Thanks

Where were the headphones?

Dravokivich · 19-10-2019 3:34pm

Your lucky it wasnt someone's foot. Why did you continue without the plates being secure?

Just help her get new headphones if they are broken and get over it.

mayota · 19-10-2019 3:34pm

Tara4 wrote: »

I was working out in the gym today and it appears that through my own negligence I may have damaged a Spanish girls beats headphones.

I was doing a bicep curl with a bar and I couldn't find any weight pins for the bar. I tried lifting without the pins and the weights fell and possibly damaged the headphones.

I'm wondering what position this leaves me in legally ? I gave the girl my number and she said she would charge the headphones and tell me whether they were working.

I've watched enough judge Judy to know that I possibly have to make this girl 'whole'. By that I mean I might have to replace these headphones with ones of commiserate value ie. Second hand beats headphones.

If this girl gives me proof that the headphones are broken. I will need proof that she has tried to repair them. Or indeed written proof that they are beyond repair.

What position am I in legally? Should I expect the gym's insurance to cover it ? How much for a second hand pair of beats headphones ?

Thanks

If you broke the headphones have a bit of respect for yourself and buy the girl a new set.

TheAnalyst_ · 19-10-2019 3:36pm

I wouldn’t if the headphones were laying on the ground. Only if they were actually on her person.

Tara4 · 19-10-2019 3:36pm

Cockadoodledoo wrote: »

Where were the headphones?

They were on the floor.

is_that_so · 19-10-2019 3:36pm

Yeah just replace them and stay away from shouting lawyer. Things like this happen.

JeffKenna · 19-10-2019 3:37pm

Was she good looking? This could make the difference...

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Cockadoodledoo · 19-10-2019 3:37pm

Tara4 wrote: »

They were on the floor.

Both to blame in my opinion. They shouldn’t have been left on the floor either.

TheAnalyst_ · 19-10-2019 3:37pm

It’s a gym. Heavy weights get lifted and fall about. Pisses me off when I see people leave phones on the floor beside a rack of plates.

Tara4 · 19-10-2019 3:38pm

Dravokivich wrote: »

Your lucky it wasnt someone's foot. Why did you continue without the plates being secure?

Just help her get new headphones if they are broken and get over it.

Actually they were only 5 kg weights. It's pretty unlikely they would have damaged anyone's foot.

bunderoon · 19-10-2019 3:41pm

Pretty straightforward. You went and lifted weights without the pin. With the pin in and her earphones being on the floor, they wouldn't have gotten broken.

Tara4 · 19-10-2019 3:42pm

PrettyBoy wrote: »

What planet are you on if they're broken as a result of you dropping weights on them then do the right thing and buy her a new pair (ie. brand new from a retailer).

Yeah thanks. But unfortunately for her I'm not father Christmas. If I broke a second hand pair of headphones I'm only liable to replace them with a second hand pair of headphones.

I was recently made unemployed so money is an issue.

TheAnalyst_ · 19-10-2019 3:43pm

Don’t offer anything. Her fault.

is_that_so · 19-10-2019 3:44pm

Cockadoodledoo wrote: »

Both to blame in my opinion. They shouldn’t have been left on the floor either.

Nah, you've got to secure your weights. I'd also say you check the area around you for stupid behaviour like this. You might say something about it but you're at fault.

Still waters · 19-10-2019 3:44pm

Tara4 wrote: »

Actually they were only 5 kg weights. It's pretty unlikely they would have damaged anyone's foot.

Drop one on your foot the next day you're in the gym and let us know

whiskeyman · 19-10-2019 3:44pm

Who leaves headphones on the floor?
Anyone could have walked on them.

If they are cheap enough, the offer to replace is a nice gesture.

If they are a couple of hundred that the OP doesn't have, I sure wouldn't be forking out.

One eyed Jack · 19-10-2019 3:54pm

Tara4 wrote: »

Yeah thanks. But unfortunately for her I'm not father Christmas. If I broke a second hand pair of headphones I'm only liable to replace them with a second hand pair of headphones.

I was recently made unemployed so money is an issue.

If the person bought them second-hand, then they’re a second-hand pair of headphones. If the person bought them new, then they’re not second-hand. Either way you’ve already admitted liability so you’re responsible for compensating her for the value of the headphones, however much that may cost you. Your own personal financial circumstances are irrelevant - you broke something belonging to someone else which was entirely your own fault through your own carelessness in not securing the equipment you were using.

Caranica · 19-10-2019 3:54pm

Tara4 wrote: »

Actually they were only 5 kg weights. It's pretty unlikely they would have damaged anyone's foot.

I've broken bones in my foot from a1l glass bottle, weighs a lot less than 5kg

Tara4 · 19-10-2019 4:01pm

One eyed Jack wrote: »

If the person bought them second-hand, then they’re a second-hand pair of headphones. If the person bought them new, then they’re not second-hand. Either way you’ve already admitted liability so you’re responsible for compensating her for the value of the headphones, however much that may cost you. Your own personal financial circumstances are irrelevant - you broke something belonging to someone else which was entirely your own fault through your own carelessness in not securing the equipment you were using.

I'm taking it that you're not a lawyer. AFAIK I don't legally have to replace second hand for new. Also the fact they were on the floor create extenuating circumstances.

I'll replace like with like but if she demands a new pair. She can take me to small claims court and we'll let a judge sort it out.

PrettyBoy · 19-10-2019 4:01pm

Tara4 wrote: »

Yeah thanks. But unfortunately for her I'm not father Christmas. If I broke a second hand pair of headphones I'm only liable to replace them with a second hand pair of headphones.

You've already admitted that the headphones were broken as a result of your negligence

Tara4 wrote: »

I was working out in the gym today and it appears that through my own negligence I may have damaged a Spanish girls beats headphones.

And how do you know how long she's owned the headphones? If she bought them earlier this week would you still consider them to be second hand?

Tara4 wrote:

I was recently made unemployed so money is an issue.

You've been unemployed for a good while now but has that prevented you from buying cannabis since you were sacked? You damaged someone elses property as a result of a stupid decision you made - why do you think the owner of the headphones (or the gym's insurance company) should pay for the damage caused by your stupidity?

micar · 19-10-2019 4:03pm

Tara4 wrote: »

through my own negligence I damaged a girls beats headphones

If it were yours that was damaged , would you expect the person who broke them to be replaced.

I think so and with a new ones

Have you googled the headphones.....model and cost.

It seems you want to try to find away to avoid replacing them....that's what Judge Judy would say ..... you broke them , you replace them.

PrettyBoy · 19-10-2019 4:07pm

Tara4 wrote: »

I'll replace like with like but if she demands a new pair. She can take me to small claims court and we'll let a judge sort it out.

Easy to know you haven't got much going on. You can put everything you've learned from watching Judge Judy into practice, let us know how it goes.

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One eyed Jack · 19-10-2019 4:12pm

Tara4 wrote: »

I'm taking it that you're not a lawyer. AFAIK I don't legally have to replace second hand for new. Also the fact they were on the floor create extenuating circumstances.

I'll replace like with like but if she demands a new pair. She can take me to small claims court and we'll let a judge sort it out.

You’re looking for legal advice in a forum where posters aren’t permitted either to seek legal advice, or give legal advice. I wasn’t giving legal advice, I was giving you practical advice - you’ve admitted you’re responsible for damaging another person’s property, and no amount of waffle about extenuating circumstances is going to overcome that fact. That’s your question asked and answered.

As for how much replacing the value of the property you have admitted to damaging already will cost you, that’s anyone’s guess really.

duffman13 · 19-10-2019 4:21pm

Tara4 wrote: »

I'm taking it that you're not a lawyer. AFAIK I don't legally have to replace second hand for new. Also the fact they were on the floor create extenuating circumstances.

[B[I'll replace like with like but if she demands a new pair. She can take me to small claims court and we'll let a judge sort it out.[/B]

Tbh if it was me and you said that to me id go the small claims court, you won't win.

As for the rest of your post, you might wanna seek legal advice which will cost about the same as a new pair of headphones

Dia_Anseo · 19-10-2019 4:24pm

If I were the OP I would replce the earphone pronto but without liability and get the Spanish girl to sign a declaration that she cannot pursue for further damages.

The earphones could have been a family airloom passed to the Spanish girl from her mother on her dying bed. The Spanish girl could rightfully pursue the OP for compensation for trauma, days off work as a result of this trauma and further ancillary costs that could easily run into 10's of thousands of euro, just because the OP wouldn't replce the 125 euro earphones.

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GarIT · 19-10-2019 5:53pm

Tara4 wrote: »

I'm taking it that you're not a lawyer. AFAIK I don't legally have to replace second hand for new. Also the fact they were on the floor create extenuating circumstances.

I'll replace like with like but if she demands a new pair. She can take me to small claims court and we'll let a judge sort it out.

If she had headphones nobody else ever wore you replace them with the same model of headphones that nobody else has ever worn. There's no way I'd wear headphones someone else had worn.

To me is somewhat depends on where the headphones were. If they were under or in the immediate vacinity of the machine she was using then it's your fault, if they were out in the middle of nowhere far away from her you might have a case.

BDI · 19-10-2019 6:00pm

You can’t leave stuff on the floor. Where people lift weights. What if you finished your set and put the bar down on them.

Earphones go in ears or in pockets. What if I left my earphones beside Pavel when he is removing a brick wall on a building site? Should Pavel buy me new headphones?

Would Usain Bolt have to buy me new headphones if I left them on the finishing line?

I have deadlifted and benched without the pins in a million times, it’s fairly common.

Odyssey 2005 · 19-10-2019 6:10pm

Wanting to replace someone's earphones with second hand ones says it all really. Would the op buy a 2nd hand hairbrush, toothbrush, underwear for herself ?.

endacl · 19-10-2019 7:03pm

Tara4 wrote: »

I was recently made unemployed so money is an issue.

Best cancel that gym membership so. You could spend the time you used to spend there taking a long hard look at yourself.

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