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08-11-2018, 15:05   #256
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Well they're definitely not interested in getting politically lumbered with another Ennis to Athenry, and I can't say I blame them...
given the passenger railway isn't a commercial venture, what they are interested in or not isn't relevant. they are the operator and infrastructure manager, and they get paid to run the lines by government. what opens or not isn't their concern. at least not anymore
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08-11-2018, 19:10   #257
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given the passenger railway isn't a commercial venture, what they are interested in or not isn't relevant. they are the operator and infrastructure manager, and they get paid to run the lines by government. what opens or not isn't their concern. at least not anymore
Well they've said they're not interested in it.. And they're leasing it to Cork coco.. Which shows they're not interested in it (except in getting it off their books)
And while your right IR isn't a commercial venture, it does have commercial interests, it has to worry about running lines and stations, allocating rolling stock, balancing books and the government aren't exactly throwing open the purse to them..
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Well they've said they're not interested in it.. And they're leasing it to Cork coco.. Which shows they're not interested in it (except in getting it off their books)
the fact they aren't interested is irrelevant. if government/NTA ever decide it will open, it will open. whether irish rail are interested or not won't matter a jot, they will be operating it whether they want it or not. and i'd doubt it actually goes off their books dispite them leasing it to the council. i'd be surprised if there isn't some responsibility still remaining with them given they haven't gone for an abandonment order.

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And while your right IR isn't a commercial venture, it does have commercial interests, it has to worry about running lines and stations, allocating rolling stock, balancing books and the government aren't exactly throwing open the purse to them..

those aren't "commercial" interests as such, but rather simple operations. freight and charter trains would be the only real commercial interests irish rail have.
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Councillors to vote on Monday on possibly one of the most short sighted plans I've seen. With a bit of luck sense will prevail and the mistakes of the past won't be repeated but I don't have much hope.
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Councillors to vote on Monday on possibly one of the most short sighted plans I've seen. With a bit of luck sense will prevail and the mistakes of the past won't be repeated but I don't have much hope.
Sense? LoL
Councillors, like some of the greenway supporters, are sheep.
Can't say I'm that surprised at the result.
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Greenway passed council voe

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If i knew how to appeal it i would.
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If i knew how to appeal it i would.
Because its been brilliant since the 80s
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Because its been brilliant since the 80s
Cork has been following a policy of car based commuting with large scale car dependent residential development in satellite towns since the 80s. In addition to this loads of car dependent development has opened up around the city. In recent years it's been proven that this is not a successful strategy to follow and there is a push on now to density the city and concentrate development in the centre of the city along good quality transit corridors.

Youghal is the only town in Cork that can be rail connected that isn't rail connected (unless you count Blarney's lack of a station). Macroom, Bandon, Fermoy, Watergrasshill, Carrigaline, Kinsale, will never get the opportunity so destroying the last potential corridor is not good forward planning
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Because its been brilliant since the 80s
so? it couldn't have been brilliant seeing as it isn't in a state to take traffic. how it was operated previously, or it's current state, does not proclude it from being reopened and providing a good rail service in the future.
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No one was rooting for the railway, not the NTA, not Irish Rail, not the councillors, politicians but above all the car-centric people of the locality and Youghal itself selling themselves short. It hadn't a prayer.
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Cork has been following a policy of car based commuting with large scale car dependent residential development in satellite towns since the 80s. In addition to this loads of car dependent development has opened up around the city. In recent years it's been proven that this is not a successful strategy to follow and there is a push on now to density the city and concentrate development in the centre of the city along good quality transit corridors.

Youghal is the only town in Cork that can be rail connected that isn't rail connected (unless you count Blarney's lack of a station). Macroom, Bandon, Fermoy, Watergrasshill, Carrigaline, Kinsale, will never get the opportunity so destroying the last potential corridor is not good forward planning
Buttevant?

The rational of wanting a line re-opened just because it is there escapes me. There are lots of projects that could be done that would reap greater benefits.
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Buttevant?

The rational of wanting a line re-opened just because it is there escapes me. There are lots of projects that could be done that would reap greater benefits.
because reopening a line like youghal is easy and quick to do compared to some of the other projects, and it would have a good level of usage.
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The rational of wanting a line re-opened just because it is there escapes me. There are lots of projects that could be done that would reap greater benefits.
Such as?
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I've said it before, but how about new stations at Blarney, Rathduff, Buttevant etc and a stopping train service from Cork to Limerick City.
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