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Dublin City is now ''Tap'' Central

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  • #32
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 33,856 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    BrokenArrows wrote: »
    If they go unchallenged then more and more people do it.
    If they are constantly hassled by Gardai then it's a less attractive thing to do.

    Yeah and if fecking eejits people stopped giving them money it'd become a less attractive thing to do, too...

    Life ain't always empty.



  • #33
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users Posts: 23,442 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    the beer revolu wrote: »
    How much extra tax would you be willing to pay for this to happen?

    So how do other countries do it then?

    It's not about more taxes. Less wastage I would say.


  • #34
    the beer revolu
    Registered Users Posts: 16,756 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    So how do other countries do it then?

    It's not about more taxes. Less wastage I would say.

    I assume they pay for it in taxes.

    More police, more courts, more prison spaces.
    Yeah, that'll all be free.

    So you wouldn't be willing to pay any more tax?


  • #35
    Edgware
    Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Edgware


    InTheShadows wrote: »
    Horrible to see people begging and looking for change. Such a massive divide in our so called Republic
    6% unemployment of which half are unemployable due to ill health etc the other half are freeloading scum


  • #36
    Wtf ?
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 343 ✭✭Wtf ?


    Donnielighto wrote: »
    Begging should be prosecuteable unless you can prove you are destitute. Even then it's a soft answer.
    Would bending over and showing the Judge the arse out of your trousers suffice I wonder ?


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  • #37
    facehugger99
    Registered Users Posts: 7,206 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Lux23 wrote: »
    I was on O'Connell Street last Friday and I saw some lads snorting white powder outside Carrolls while children looked on - it has gotten so seedy. Very disappointing. The whole place needs to be knocked down.

    Probably easier just to move the people on than rip up all the buildings.


  • #38
    Immortal Starlight
    Registered Users Posts: 2,074 ✭✭✭Immortal Starlight


    Walking up O Connell Street Monday morning and there was a black sleeping bag on the ground outside penny's with the unseen occupant shivering underneath. Then straight across the street there was a man going through the bin and taking open cups out and swallowing what remains were inside. How do people live like that.


  • #39
    Nermal
    Registered Users Posts: 2,613 ✭✭✭Nermal


    Edgware wrote: »
    What good is moving them on from the Halpenny Bridge to Dame st or wherever?
    It doesn't solve the problem

    If you move them far enough, it does.


  • #40
    Ray Palmer
    Registered Users Posts: 8,347 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    the beer revolu wrote: »
    How much extra tax would you be willing to pay for this to happen?

    So how do other countries do it then?

    It's not about more taxes. Less wastage I would say.
    It is in our constitution that you have the right to beg. The anti-begging laws we had were all removed after a court case proved this.
    To change this we would need to have a referendum. We literally cannot do what other countries do.


  • #41
    conorhal
    Registered Users Posts: 6,983 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    It is in our constitution that you have the right to beg. The anti-begging laws we had were all removed after a court case proved this.
    To change this we would need to have a referendum. We literally cannot do what other countries do.


    Nope you don't.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/court-challenge-to-begging-law-succeeds-1.1292645

    A section of the act was deemed unconstitutional, there would be no issue ammending the act to make begging an offence, it could also be dealt with under several public order acts but there is no will to do anything because resources would be required.

    Visible policing is required on the streets. The guards have retreated to sitting on their arses behind CCTV monitoring stations, which is great for evidence after the fact, but more proactive policing to prevent street crime is badly needed.


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  • #42
    greencap
    Registered Users Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭greencap


    Woke Hogan wrote: »
    Yeah right.

    People love playing the hard man on here, then spend their days whinging about video games or TV programmes about cartoon dragons. Deluded.

    If you really think Im not willing and able to tell a skanger who tries some ridiculous 'borrow yer phone' scam to fck off, then you need to think again.

    discussion/2058195983/russia-threadbanned-users-in-op/p3135

    😁



  • #43
    wakka12
    Registered Users Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Problem is no Gardaí to move anyone on.

    Move to where? Most of them live in the city centre


  • #44
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users Posts: 33,015 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Other countries came up with an idea to tackle all sorts of behaviour in society - a properly resourced and manned police force and a justice system.

    Imagine that.

    Doesn't even come close to answering the question.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #45
    dreamers75
    Registered Users Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    Best of luck if you ever go to Liverpool :)


    They are so polite but fcuk me if there was ever a war between our homeless junkies and theirs, they would slaughter us with sheer numbers.

    And be polite about it.


  • #46
    dd973
    Registered Users Posts: 625 ✭✭✭dd973


    Westmoreland St is a quare fish to say the least, the weird experiences and stuff I've seen there would make you think it built on some intersection of ley lines or something.


  • #47
    NoteAgent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 103 ✭✭NoteAgent


    Lux23 wrote: »
    I was on O'Connell Street last Friday and I saw some lads snorting white powder outside Carrolls while children looked on - it has gotten so seedy. Very disappointing. The whole place needs to be knocked down.

    They need to turn O' Connell St into some sort of Champs Elysses/ Monte Carlo/ Bond Street equivalent where you literally have to be well off to set foot down there. Get rid of Penneys and Carrolls and replace them with designer shops. Make all the pubs start charging 20eur for a pint. Put a few supercar dealerships in there for good measure. Before entering you have to show a statement that shows youre Net Worth. If its below a hundred grand youre told to **** off. Any junckie that tries to jump the fence is beaten to death with hammers. Should sort the homeless problem fairly quickly.
    Just a suggestion...;)


  • #48
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 33,856 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    We already have Grafton St, now all we need to have is a law which mandates that buskers are shot on sight :)

    Life ain't always empty.



  • #49
    gmisk
    Registered Users Posts: 31,825 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    I thought this thread was going to be about using the tap function to pay.

    Actually thats probably the next phase of begging....
    "spare a euro for a hostel?"
    "I dont have any change sorry"
    "No worries...I accept contactless...you can tap if its under 30 euro you are giving me"


  • #50
    nthclare
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,316 ✭✭✭nthclare


    Lol I know a guy and he's well known on the traditional Irish music scene.

    In his Gruff thick Clare accent he'll say
    "Have you a lazy fiver and I'll work it for you ?"

    No Pius sorry, ok have you a tenner he'll say...

    A lazy fiver and I'll work it for you, gotta give it to him for being philosophical, funny and balsy


  • #51
    Cienciano
    Registered Users Posts: 14,223 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Headphones and pretend you can't hear solves a lot of this


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  • #52
    w/s/p/c/
    Registered Users Posts: 468 ✭✭w/s/p/c/


    Anytime I am approached, I just give them the death stare and walk on by!


  • #53
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 33,856 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    nthclare wrote: »
    A lazy fiver and I'll work it for you, gotta give it to him for being philosophical, funny and balsy

    Nah, he's just an arsehole.

    Life ain't always empty.



  • #54
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    Yeah and if fecking eejits people stopped giving them money it'd become a less attractive thing to do, too...

    100% this. They only do it because it's profitable.


  • #55
    Wtf ?
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 343 ✭✭Wtf ?


    gmisk wrote: »
    I thought this thread was going to be about using the tap function to pay.

    Actually thats probably the next phase of begging....
    "spare a euro for a hostel?"
    "I dont have any change sorry"
    "No worries...I accept contactless...you can tap if its under 30 euro you are giving me"
    Get with the lingo(Man)


  • #56
    Woke Hogan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭Woke Hogan


    greencap wrote: »
    If you really think Im not willing and able to tell a skanger who tries some ridiculous 'borrow yer phone' scam to fck off, then you need to think again.
    Ha ha ha. Yeah. Right.


  • #57
    Mrcaramelchoc
    Registered Users Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭Mrcaramelchoc


    Its a ****hole .what can one expect.


  • #58
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 33,856 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Mrcaramelchoc wrote: »
    Its a ****hole .what can one expect.

    Tell us where you live :)

    BTW a lot of the street dwellers in Dublin aren't from there

    Life ain't always empty.



  • #59
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users Posts: 23,442 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Correct, most of them are from Kildare.


  • #60
    pinkyeye
    Registered Users Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭pinkyeye


    I don't know what the problem is. If anyone asks me for a smoke I'll give them one no problem cause I know what it's like to be gagging for a smoke and it's no skin off my nose to give one away.

    I'll even give them a light (shock, horror).

    When it comes to cash if I've any on me I'll probably give it away because why not? It doesn't hurt my pocket to give an odd fiver away. If If I don't have any on me I'll just state politely that I don't have any cash.

    Fail to understand why people get so stressed over these things.


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  • #61
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 33,856 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    You're making panhanding profitable. Enabling self-destructive lifestyles. And they must think you're completely soft in the head if you're handing out fivers ffs. But I presume you're referring to the junkies, not the professionals.

    There's a Romanian beggar back now this week to her usual spot she's had for years near where I work, her summer holiday back home is over, there is no way she is homeless but some saps still give her money. There used to be an Irish lad there but "they tuk his job" lol

    Life ain't always empty.



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