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Today I saw an abandoned classic and took a pic thread!

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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭carchaeologist


    Nice shots of the citroens!they all look pretty past it though!:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,579 ✭✭✭junkyard


    Where are those Citroens richiet? I'm looking for parts for an SM at the moment and there are at least two there.:eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 107 ✭✭richiet


    The Citroens are in Dublin, fairly hard to get to, involves fences, a small river, more fences, some tresspassing and more fences!!! I'll go out at the weekend and see if I can find out who owns them and if they're for sale etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 551 ✭✭✭trevorbrady


    mk2 Escort and mk2 Golf (not quite a classic yet!) in Co. Laois

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    this merc was in the same yard too...

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  • Registered Users Posts: 586 ✭✭✭johnf2020


    WOW WOW WOW,,,I used to own that Merc 190E ten years ago.
    It has some history...It ia a 1983 model,,,IT even has ABS. The first owner was Michael O'flahery of Motor Distributors----Im not joking.
    I think it was probaly one of the first Irish 190's
    I bought it from Billy Coogan in Castlecomer---Had hugh mileage,but fitted with engine and gearbox from crashed 40k car.It was my first really good car--even though it was 15 years old when I bought it.
    Loaded,

    CL,EW,EM,ESR,HEADLAMP WASHERS,AUTO,ABS ETC ETC.

    That was a brill car---Had it when I met my wife....:D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭carchaeologist


    johnf2020 wrote: »
    WOW WOW WOW,,,I used to own that Merc 190E ten years ago.
    It has some history...It ia a 1983 model,,,IT even has ABS. The first owner was Michael O'flahery of Motor Distributors----Im not joking.
    I think it was probaly one of the first Irish 190's
    I bought it from Billy Coogan in Castlecomer---Had hugh mileage,but fitted with engine and gearbox from crashed 40k car.It was my first really good car--even though it was 15 years old when I bought it.
    Loaded,

    CL,EW,EM,ESR,HEADLAMP WASHERS,AUTO,ABS ETC ETC.

    That was a brill car---Had it when I met my wife....:D
    Great story john!!you'll have to go and buy her back again(the car, not the wife):D


  • Registered Users Posts: 586 ✭✭✭8~)


    Good one regarding the Merc.
    I think I passed that place a couple of times last year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 208 ✭✭Lyre61


    junkyard wrote: »
    Where are those Citroens richiet? I'm looking for parts for an SM at the moment and there are at least two there.:eek:

    They are not for sale, or at least the owner will not entertain selling them. Over the years several people have tried to buy them but to no avail.


  • Registered Users Posts: 167 ✭✭ikb


    Ha, not really mad, i just try to appriciate a good coachbuilt car when i see one. Have you any pics of the zodys?
    sorry pal, been busy,(Down west cork...as it goes)... Have some pics, on vynal (vynil,vynel..how do you spell vyneail...?) will endevour to transfer onto digital something ,and will obliege...P.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭carchaeologist


    ikb wrote: »
    sorry pal, been busy,(Down west cork...as it goes)... Have some pics, on vynal (vynil,vynel..how do you spell vyneail...?) will endevour to transfer onto digital something ,and will obliege...P.
    thank you sir, appriciate it!
    i can never spell that damn word either!!!ha,hilarious!!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭carchaeologist


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    Heres one i dug up earlier!! I was going to put it in the mystery car thread but its just a bit obscure!!Is a mk1 vw golf diesel(well,the front of it!),dug out of the ground of a housing estate that i was working on!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,765 ✭✭✭ds20prefecture


    richiet wrote: »
    Picture032-1.jpg

    The remains on the left is a very early DS, probably pre 1960. Note the single nut spare wheel and the front mounted exhaust silencer. Don't know what the drum is to the left of the rad - the black one on the right is the LHS reservoir.

    Horrible to see them this way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,756 ✭✭✭ianobrien


    Image451.jpg
    Heres one i dug up earlier!! I was going to put it in the mystery car thread but its just a bit obscure!!Is a mk1 vw golf diesel(well,the front of it!),dug out of the ground of a housing estate that i was working on!

    How the blazes did you figure that out?:confused::confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭carchaeologist


    ianobrien wrote: »
    How the blazes did you figure that out?:confused::confused:
    Well i dont call myself carchaeologist for nothing!!:D
    It was easy really, the engine was still in it, so i could see the diesel pump, and i knew it was a golf(or jetta come to think of it) by the design of the front wishbones and strut tops,maybe i should get out more!!!:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,579 ✭✭✭junkyard


    I'd say it's a Golf alright looking at the bottom suspension arm. Pity about the SM, spares are scarce enough for them besides leaving them rot into the ground like this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭oflynno


    vinyl

    and a question for the citroen fans

    do the modern citroens,the xantia,xm and xsara have the hydraulic suspension system on the same lines as the bx has?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,756 ✭✭✭ianobrien


    Well i dont call myself carchaeologist for nothing!!:D
    It was easy really, the engine was still in it, so i could see the diesel pump, and i knew it was a golf(or jetta come to think of it) by the design of the front wishbones and strut tops,maybe i should get out more!!!:)

    I'll take your word for it.....


  • Registered Users Posts: 254 ✭✭Dangel4x4


    oflynno wrote: »
    vinyl

    and a question for the citroen fans

    do the modern citroens,the xantia,xm and xsara have the hydraulic suspension system on the same lines as the bx has?

    Xantia and XM - yes.
    C5 and C6 - kinda, but not really. :)
    Xsara, C4, etc - no.


  • Registered Users Posts: 208 ✭✭Lyre61


    Dangel4x4 wrote: »
    Xantia and XM - yes.
    C5 and C6 - kinda, but not really. :)
    Xsara, C4, etc - no.

    Everything after the std Xantias, Xantia Activa..C5..C6.. all have a modern version of the hydraulic system. for instance on the C5 the suspension is powered by an electric pump, and the brakes are a separate system.
    And the new C5 comes with the option of a normal suspension system.


  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭oflynno


    so if i was thinking of putting the whole suspension system into something else(which i am:D) the more modern the better,ya?

    and have the modern c4 and them got the adjustable suspension?

    ta for the help


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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    oflynno wrote: »
    so if i was thinking of putting the whole suspension system into something else(which i am:D) the more modern the better,ya?

    and have the modern c4 and them got the adjustable suspension?

    ta for the help

    C4 has a common garden variety spring sprung :D suspension.

    I doubt that it would be easy to transfer hydropneumatic suspension (of any generation) into a normally sprung car.
    As far as I can remember, the whole axle geometry is different, as a hydropneumatic sphere (which is "spring" and damper in one) takes up a lot less room than common springs and dampers and all the arms are of a different design

    See here:

    http://www.arc-light.co.uk/thesuspension.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭carchaeologist


    oflynno wrote: »
    so if i was thinking of putting the whole suspension system into something else(which i am:D)
    Hmm...sounds interesting..is it top secret?:p


  • Registered Users Posts: 208 ✭✭Lyre61


    oflynno wrote: »
    so if i was thinking of putting the whole suspension system into something else(which i am:D) the more modern the better,ya?

    and have the modern c4 and them got the adjustable suspension?

    ta for the help

    Yup, it is more independent of the other workings of the car, should be plenty of C5s appearing in the breakers yards at this stage. You can buy tools to make up the pipes and their joints on ebay or from one of the Citroen specialists. There is a crowd in the UK that specialise in all the hydraulic bits. I will dig out the contact details for you if you want.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 RozzBurrows


    Well i dont call myself carchaeologist for nothing!!:D
    It was easy really, the engine was still in it, so i could see the diesel pump, and i knew it was a golf(or jetta come to think of it) by the design of the front wishbones and strut tops,maybe i should get out more!!!:)

    wow, that is some extensice car knowledge.

    amazing


  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭oflynno


    Hmm...sounds interesting..is it top secret?:p

    no its not too top secret but i am between 2 minds whether to go ahead now or wait until the garage is finished and sell the project vehicle on now and postpone it until end of summer. . . . .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 87 ✭✭Halfdog


    richiet wrote: »
    The Citroens are in Dublin, fairly hard to get to, involves fences, a small river, more fences, some tresspassing and more fences!!! I'll go out at the weekend and see if I can find out who owns them and if they're for sale etc.
    The only "fence" I could se that would be any way difficult to encounter would be the parimiter fence of the M50, other than that theres a direct road access to that field which is in South Co Dublin. There is no small rivers near that location. Those photos must have been taken some time ago because recently there was a guy seen in there with a Hymac.


  • Registered Users Posts: 107 ✭✭richiet


    Halfdog wrote: »
    The only "fence" I could se that would be any way difficult to encounter would be the parimiter fence of the M50, other than that theres a direct road access to that field which is in South Co Dublin. There is no small rivers near that location. Those photos must have been taken some time ago because recently there was a guy seen in there with a Hymac.

    And?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 RozzBurrows


    can anyone tell me, whats the difference between a classic and a vintage?

    Im new to all of this!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 196 ✭✭superboy


    Vintage = Prewar (up to mid 40's or thereabouts)
    Classic = Postwar (50's, 60's, 70's, and possibly 80's)
    Thats a simplistic way of looking at it, because there are sub divisions such as Edwardian, Veteran etc. but it makes sense to me. It can be subjective too, as some people I know would kill me for calling an 80's car a classic! But I don't care. :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    i think Veteran are pre 1898 or there abouts , then comes Vintage and then Edwardian from around 1911 onwardsto 1919 (i think those are roughly Edward V11's dates........all other descriptions are non-specific general terms with no particular meaning....


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