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Is it just me or have SF vanished?

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    #2372
    cadaliac
    Registered Users Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭cadaliac


    tikkahunter wrote: »
    Why put it up on Twitter first ?
    It (effectively) has made the point very prominent and half the country are now discussing it.


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    #2373
    tikkahunter
    Registered Users Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭tikkahunter


    Sultan_of_Ping wrote: »
    We're all doing a bit more than usual and it all helps.

    Varadkar doing one session a week on the phonelines will not impact his job as Taoiseach and if it encourages other retired medical professionals (or others who have left the profession) to come back, when they see that there roles to be filled that don't expose them to the virus, then it's no bad thing.

    If we all took the atittude that we should just stick to our actual jobs then we'd all be screwed.
    Leading by example, he is getting world wide praise for it and so he should, well except from the usual fools .It might be only one day but it helps and any little bit that helps from anyone at this stage is welcome.


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    #2374
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Topgear on Dave wrote: »
    He was a doctor before becoming a politician Francie. We need doctors.

    The opposition should form a government and free him up so he can go back to medicine full time.

    The opposition want a unity government until this crisis is over and he blocked that idea. Now he's spending half days on a call line.


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    #2375
    Topgear on Dave
    Registered Users Posts: 4,520 ✭✭✭Topgear on Dave


    smurgen wrote: »
    The opposition want a unity government until this crisis is over and he blocked that idea. Now he's spending half days on a call line.

    If that is the case the opposition should remove him.


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    #2376
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 66,840 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Sultan_of_Ping wrote: »
    We're all doing a bit more than usual and it all helps.

    Varadkar doing one session a week on the phonelines will not impact his job as Taoiseach and if it encourages other retired medical professionals (or others who have left the profession) to come back, when they see that there roles to be filled that don't expose them to the virus, then it's no bad thing.

    If we all took the atittude that we should just stick to our actual jobs then we'd all be screwed.

    He isn't 'doing' his job though...there is stuff he could be doing.

    And 24,000 ex health care worker have already expressed an interest in returning to work.

    Are they back and working? Has government removed all the hindrances to them getting back?

    Have they f***, 'Get the photo...get the photo at any cost'.

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    #2377
    tikkahunter
    Registered Users Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭tikkahunter


    smurgen wrote: »
    To lead others to do the same. Seems like it worked too. Here's another SF TD following

    https://twitter.com/PadraigMacL/status/1247101352368574465?s=19
    No you will see all SF TD’s do the same and all use the same generic letter because the party has to stay relevant and this is their way , they will all hand it back then Mary Lou will come out of her isolation and and shout from the roof tops about how her party have helped the cause by giving back the money . Why don’t they sell all the Georgian property around Dublin they have and and down grade to a more socialist office space. They seen Leo scored some points by doing the one day so this is how they come back at that.


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    #2378
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Topgear on Dave wrote: »
    If that is the case the opposition should remove him.

    What you mean like topple him Saddam style? :)


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    #2379
    Sultan_of_Ping
    Registered Users Posts: 436 ✭✭Sultan_of_Ping


    smurgen wrote: »
    The opposition want a unity government until this crisis is over and he blocked that idea. Now he's spending half days on a call line.

    How has he blocked the idea - FG are the third largest party by vote share and he only controls 35 of 160 TDs.

    That leaves 125 - even if he was dead against it, how could Varadkar possibly stop it from happening?


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    #2380
    aido79
    Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 5,374 Mod ✭✭✭✭aido79


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Well the MoH seems to be incapable of doing it, otherwise a Nurses rep wouldn't have to take to the national airwaves to pressure for it to happen.

    My granny would say, if you were doing pointless stuff...'would it not fit you better to do.....'

    This is a serious question for Leo and the government at this time...'Would it not fit you better to sort out the issues that are making it difficult for frontline staff to actually work full and productive shifts'?

    What do you suggest Leo and the government do to make this happen?


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    #2381
    all about the mane
    Registered Users Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    Leo really has the shinners triggered today. Multiple threads of teeth gnashing. He must be doing something right :D


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    #2382
    aido79
    Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 5,374 Mod ✭✭✭✭aido79


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Half of the Dáil are millionaires...are they making the same gesture?

    Using that logic 25% of them are in SF. What gestures are they making?


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    #2383
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    tikkahunter wrote: »
    No you will see all SF TD’s do the same and all use the same generic letter because the part has to stay relevant and this is their way , all hand it back then Mary Lou will come out of her isolation and and shout from the roof tops about how her party have helped the cause by giving back the money . Why don’t they sell all the Georgian property around Dublin they have and and down grade to a more socialist office space. They seen Leo scored some points by doing the one day so this is how they come back at that.

    Why don't all FG TD's go help the HSE? There's plenty of other civil servants being redeployed to to do tracing etc? Why don't fine Gael sell their property?


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    #2384
    Sultan_of_Ping
    Registered Users Posts: 436 ✭✭Sultan_of_Ping


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    He isn't 'doing' his job though...there is stuff he could be doing.

    And 24,000 ex health care worker have already expressed an interest in returning to work.

    Are they back and working? Has government removed all the hindrances to them getting back?

    Have they f***, 'Get the photo...get the photo at any cost'.

    snip

    What other stuff could he be doing? Batch testing PPE in China?

    Anyway, the press don't have to cover him - maybe suggest that the press limit their coverage, if you think it's an issue.


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    #2385
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    all about the mane wrote: »
    Leo really has the shinners triggered today. Multiple threads of teeth gnashing. He must be doing something right :D

    Most winding seems to be people froathing at the mouth over Eoin O'Broin giving back wages to the exchequer. Seen many SF folk thanking Leo.


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    #2386
    Sultan_of_Ping
    Registered Users Posts: 436 ✭✭Sultan_of_Ping


    smurgen wrote: »
    What you mean like topple him Saddam style? :)

    No need, don't the 101st Airborne to depose Leo just SF plus 44 like-minded TDs, call a vote and Varadkar will have even more time to help out with Covid-19.

    Question is, why can't SF wrangle the votes?


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    #2387
    tikkahunter
    Registered Users Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭tikkahunter


    smurgen wrote: »
    Why don't all FG TD's go help the HSE? There's plenty of other civil servants being redeployed to to do tracing etc? Why don't fine Gael sell their property?
    They don’t claim to be socialist


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    #2388
    markodaly
    Registered Users Posts: 13,948 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    smurgen wrote: »
    What you mean like topple him Saddam style? :)

    No, vote the caretaker government out, by you know voting for a government.... :D:D


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    #2389
    all about the mane
    Registered Users Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    Sultan_of_Ping wrote: »
    How has he blocked the idea - FG are the third largest party by vote share and he only controls 35 of 160 TDs.

    That leaves 125 - even if he was dead against it, how could Varadkar possibly stop it from happening?

    He can't. This is all the shinners have right now. Leo is flying it. FG couldn't be coming out of this better. And all after 'losing' the election to SF. Behind it all, the provos are raging.


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    #2390
    markodaly
    Registered Users Posts: 13,948 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    "We should send Leo to China to stand on an assembly line, to make sure quality standards are reached."

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    #2391
    Sultan_of_Ping
    Registered Users Posts: 436 ✭✭Sultan_of_Ping


    smurgen wrote: »
    Why don't all FG TD's go help the HSE? There's plenty of other civil servants being redeployed to to do tracing etc? Why don't fine Gael sell their property?

    Why don't SF?

    It looks like when it comes to land, SF TDs are doing alright.

    FG'ers may be part of the landlord class, but it looks like they're behind the door when it comes to land

    ?width=630&version=2002585


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    #2392
    all about the mane
    Registered Users Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    smurgen wrote: »
    Most winding seems to be people froathing at the mouth over Eoin O'Broin giving back wages to the exchequer. Seen many SF folk thanking Leo.

    That was some publicity stunt by Eoin. No flies on him :D


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    #2393
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sultan_of_Ping wrote: »
    Why don't SF?

    It looks like when it comes to land, SF TDs are doing alright.

    FG'ers may be part of the landlord class, but it looks like they're behind the door when it comes to land

    ?width=630&version=2002585

    What deos the upright reading measure??


    Graph makes no sense without reading


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    #2394
    tikkahunter
    Registered Users Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭tikkahunter


    All that’s going to happen with SF TD’s giving to money back , protection rackets will up the price , the various “businesses “ they are involved in will up the price and the dealers will have to pay an extra tax to deal on that patch . They will get the money back .


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    #2395
    Townton
    Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭Townton


    all about the mane wrote: »
    That was some publicity stunt by Eoin. No flies on him :D

    Given the man's background I doubt he is short of money. When gov changes we will at the end of the day be swapping a Michaels boy for a Blackrock boy in the department of housing. And a trinity apartment owning graduate for a possible trinity town house owning graduate as taoiseach. Plenty of spin from either side but it all the same.


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    #2396
    Sultan_of_Ping
    Registered Users Posts: 436 ✭✭Sultan_of_Ping


    Deleted User wrote: »
    What deos the upright reading measure??


    Graph makes no sense without reading

    The chart is nomralised to reflect party size - the point being that an SF TD has a higher probaility of being a land-owner than an FG or FF TD.

    Yes, yes, yes......there will be whataboutery, obfuscation and distraction - so you can take it as read that your objections have been noted.


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    #2397
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    all about the mane wrote: »
    That was some publicity stunt by Eoin. No flies on him :D

    Top notch! A great gesture.


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    #2398
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    tikkahunter wrote: »
    They don’t claim to be socialist

    They seem to be socialist when it suits them. Did they no mention we're all in this together the last few weeks? Or does that not include financial measures? Maybe they should have put a little disclaimer, a little * highlighting if that was the case.


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    #2399
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Sultan_of_Ping wrote: »
    Why don't SF?

    It looks like when it comes to land, SF TDs are doing alright.

    FG'ers may be part of the landlord class, but it looks like they're behind the door when it comes to land

    ?width=630&version=2002585

    What's the land worth? Link?


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    #2400
    mariaalice
    Registered Users Posts: 12,362 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    Be interesting to see if SF jumps on the bandwagon of wearing masks as a way of getting their voice into the news cycle. ( note wearing masks may be the correct thing but we need to wait for the WHO )


    Stephen Donnelley FF was on some news program at the weekend vainly trying to make himself relevant via some mumble about supporting nursing homes which was already happening anyway.

    Politics in Ireland is absurd sometimes.


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    #2401
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sultan_of_Ping wrote: »
    The chart is nomralised to reflect party size - the point being that an SF TD has a higher probaility of being a land-owner than an FG or FF TD.

    Yes, yes, yes......there will be whataboutery, obfuscation and distraction - so you can take it as read that your objections have been noted.

    A graph with only 1 reading is pointless...quite why you wish to argue otherwise,is all on you


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