[zubair]

Originally Posted by yamaha4life

Hi all, i just applied for my second learner permit, i have two questions.

My I.B.T cert is expired i know ill have to very likely have to resit it but i have heard two conflicting things regarding this.

First i was told id only have to do a refesher course 1/2 day others have said i need to do full 2 days again. (I also know someone who did full driving test last year and the tester took his expired I.B.T cert no problem lad has full license now)

Any one know which it is ill have to do?

Second question

Is I.B.T still being done during lockdown? Do you have to buy / bring a headset of your own now?

For the test you'll need a valid IBT, that's the official word so while your mate was lucky if they ask to see your cert it should be valid. You won't need to sit the whole thing again assuming you have an A cert, resitting module 5 would be enough. You don't need to renew it now, just for the test. I'd suggest organising your ibt close to the test and see if the instructor will focus on test prep and give you a new cert rather than actually redoing the module. IBTs are privately run so it's best to contact an instructor to find out the requirements

[yamaha4life]

Originally Posted by zubair

For the test you'll need a valid IBT, that's the official word so while your mate was lucky if they ask to see your cert it should be valid. You won't need to sit the whole thing again assuming you have an A cert, resitting module 5 would be enough. You don't need to renew it now, just for the test. I'd suggest organising your ibt close to the test and see if the instructor will focus on test prep and give you a new cert rather than actually redoing the module. IBTs are privately run so it's best to contact an instructor to find out the requirements

I have an A cert did my previous IBT on a 750, my learner permit is for unrestricted access as was 25 when i got it, im 30 now lol.

Id be worried my insurance wouldn't be valid without IBT cert in date or does that matter?

How many hours is module 5? I still have my old IBT cert anyway to show IBT guy that I completed it before.

My no claims is expired too so im sure insurance company will laugh at me when i go to get quotes on gixxers and the like, I'll probably end up on a 250cc again like last time not ideal for full test tho.

[zubair]

Originally Posted by yamaha4life

I have an A cert did my previous IBT on a 750, my learner permit is for unrestricted access as was 25 when i got it, im 30 now lol.

Id be worried my insurance wouldn't be valid without IBT cert in date or does that matter?

How many hours is module 5? I still have my old IBT cert anyway to show IBT guy that I completed it before.

My no claims is expired too so im sure insurance company will laugh at me when i go to get quotes on gixxers and the like, I'll probably end up on a 250cc again like last time not ideal for full test tho.

You can still get cover.

At 30 insurance on a sensible 600 won't be ridiculous, if it was me I'd get something a bit older and just go TPFT to start with. I'm not sure how long module 5 is, 10ish hours I think, but as I was saying, try and find an instructor who will work around your scenario rather than wasting your time and money on doing the module by the book.

[goblin59]

Originally Posted by zubair

You can still get cover.

At 30 insurance on a sensible 600 won't be ridiculous, if it was me I'd get something a bit older and just go TPFT to start with. I'm not sure how long module 5 is, 10ish hours I think, but as I was saying, try and find an instructor who will work around your scenario rather than wasting your time and money on doing the module by the book.

I was 30 when I get the 800cc (its tuned down though to 53kwh) on my learners.
was about 800 euro

[zubair]

Originally Posted by goblin59

I was 30 when I get the 800cc (its tuned down though to 53kwh) on my learners.
was about 800 euro

With level of incompetence in the insurance companies in Ireland I'd say the restriction made no difference to the quote. The agents just tick a box: vfr800... Tick.

[goblin59]

Originally Posted by zubair

With level of incompetence in the insurance companies in Ireland I'd say the restriction made no difference to the quote. The agents just tick a box: vfr800... Tick.

I had to be pretty insistent over the phone that it was 53kwh!
only principle would cover me on it, but the BMW was a very good deal to buy.

[zubair]

Originally Posted by goblin59

I had to be pretty insistent over the phone that it was 53kwh!
only principle would cover me on it, but the BMW was a very good deal to buy.

Only other thing to note is the value of the bike, how its stored/parked and the area you're in has a major impact. I had difficulty getting insured on a bike because it was not garaged and was worth more than 7k, I think that was the figure . That's why getting a cheaper bike will help keep costs down while building up NCB.

[Trigger Happy]

Originally Posted by zubair

Only other thing to note is the value of the bike, how its stored/parked and the area you're in has a major impact. I had difficulty getting insured on a bike because it was not garaged and was worth more than 7k, I think that was the figure . That's why getting a cheaper bike will help keep costs down while building up NCB.

That's very interesting. I am in the middle of shopping for a new bike but it wont be garaged...must be sure to lower my expectations and keep it below 7k.

[goblin59]

Originally Posted by Trigger Happy

That's very interesting. I am in the middle of shopping for a new bike but it wont be garaged...must be sure to lower my expectations and keep it below 7k.

get a ground anchor and disklock, it helps alot

[Trigger Happy]

Originally Posted by goblin59

get a ground anchor and disklock, it helps alot

Got both of those all right. And 2 security cameras. I would not be able to sleep at night thinking that someone could just wheel the bike away.

[zubair]

Originally Posted by Trigger Happy

Got both of those all right. And 2 security cameras. I would not be able to sleep at night thinking that someone could just wheel the bike away.

I had to add the anchor and an approved gps tracker to get it insured so don't worry too much about the figure I gave you and speak to some insurers.

[2wheelsor42020]

Am looking for some advice/experiences on the best bike to buy as a starter that is a 600cc, so can do the A test when it comes to. I have the IBT done and last hurdle is getting the bike now and getting some practice miles in. All advice welcome or if anybody knows of any decent bikes for sale or where is best to look would be great. Was thinking along the lines of bandits, fazer 600, hornet or maybe an ER6F?
TIA

[robbie_63]

You have listed all good bikes there,

What style of bike are you into?
What bike did you do your IBT Training on?

I done mine on a Fazer600 and it was a great bike, very easy to control at low speeds, etc.

I bought a CBR650F as I prefer a faired bike

[enrique66_35]

Originally Posted by 2wheelsor42020

Am looking for some advice/experiences on the best bike to buy as a starter that is a 600cc, so can do the A test when it comes to. I have the IBT done and last hurdle is getting the bike now and getting some practice miles in. All advice welcome or if anybody knows of any decent bikes for sale or where is best to look would be great. Was thinking along the lines of bandits, fazer 600, hornet or maybe an ER6F?
TIA

I'd recommend sitting on as many bikes as possible at a dealers to get a sense of what you like and are comfortable on....lockdown permitting of course.

I did my training on an MT07 but that was out of my budget so got an FZ6 (2nd gen Fazer600) and I love it (but I haven't ridden any other 600s for context).

Very forgiving bike (imo) and easy to maintain with plenty of zip. Look out for any damage on the fairings as they are crazy expensive to replace (true for pretty much all bikes) if repair is not possible.

Suitable for A test as far as I know but check the VRC if it was restricted and the cert not updated as its a pain to get changed if bike no longer restricted (its a simple throttle stop to de-restrict). Good luck!

[zubair]

CBF600