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Rock on, Rockall! (it's back)

  • 07-06-2019 6:32pm
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    Posts: 0 Dax Sweet Newsman


    2019, not 1985. Brexit-created fun just keeps giving. Where's Seán Dublin Bay Rockall Loftus when we need him?

    The Scots getting a bit cheeky, it seems: 'Scotland warns Ireland it will force fishing boats to leave Rockall waters' (7 June 2019)
    The Scottish government has warned the Irish Government it will send its fisheries patrol vessels to force Irish fishing boats to leave a 12-mile zone around Rockall, the tiny disputed island 260 miles west of the Co Donegal coast.

    In a formal letter of notice, the Scottish external affairs minister Fiona Hyslop has warned the Irish Government that it will deploy its vessels to protect Scottish fishing rights around Rockall.

    The Government here, which contests the Scottish claim on Rockall and also the claim of exclusive fishing rights, has condemned the move but on Friday the Minister for Agriculture and Fisheries Michael Creed briefed fishing industry representatives about the impending Scottish action.

    The diplomatic dispute has been festering for months, with the Scottish Government intensifying its complaints to Dublin about what it says is illegal fishing activity by Irish vessels around Rockall.

    Last week, Ms Hyslop wrote to the Government to put it on formal notice of the impending enforcement activity, and she spoke to the Tanaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs Simon Coveney on Friday.

    The Government strongly rejects the Scottish claims.

    In a statement this evening, the Irish Government said that its position “has been and remains that the waters around Rockall form part of Union waters under the Common Fisheries Policy, to which the principle of equal access for the vessels of all EU Member States applies. Irish vessels have operated unhindered in the Rockall zone for many decades fishing haddock, squid and other species.”

    Mr Coveney said that it was “the longstanding position of the Irish Government is that Irish vessels are entitled to access to Rockall waters.

    “We have never recognised UK sovereignty over Rockall and accordingly we have not recognised a territorial sea around it either.
    We have tried to work positively with the Scottish authorities and to deal with sensitive issues that flow from it in a spirit of kinship and collaboration. We very much regret that matters have reached this point and intend to do everything possible to achieve a satisfactory resolution,” he said...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,630 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    We can fire a few missiles, like North Korea.

    Oh wait, we don't have any.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Scotland can fuck right off.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    I thought Brexit might strain relations a bit, but I didn't expect we'd be going to war against Scotland.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy




  • Registered Users Posts: 7,761 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Yeah right, nothing the lads in the Air Corp couldn’t handle.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,993 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Send a battleship.
    Oh wait, we don't have any.
    Ask our EU buddies the Germans to send a battleship.
    Oh wait, all theirs are lying on the seabed somewhere in the vicinity.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭klaaaz


    That was some dig, "principle of equal access for the vessels of all EU Member States applies", Scotland will have to definitely not leave the EU now or lose some Rockall fish :). They're a bit late complaining about access with Brexit, drawing up a new treaty for them will take years! :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,381 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I'd be more bothered about this if I saw some of this Rockall bounty in my local supermarket... have you seen the price of prawn sandwiches?

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 314 ✭✭Blinky Plebum


    How can Scotland complain about this seeing as they are not a sovereign nation, they don't even control Scotland for **** sake.

    They should told to **** off with themselves.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,887 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    What vessels does scotland have?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,133 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    hmmm wrote: »
    I thought Brexit might strain relations a bit, but I didn't expect we'd be going to war against Scotland.

    Remember that the Scots have nuclear submarines + the loch Ness monster in their arsenal, so I'd nay mess with them laddie or you'd be nuked and bitten to death, and all because of a desolate old rock ;)


  • Posts: 0 Dax Sweet Newsman


    Odhinn wrote: »
    What vessels does scotland have?

    HMS 'Bought and sold for English gold'. That's about it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,251 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    So we're all agreed, war it is.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,825 ✭✭✭Patser


    kowloon wrote: »
    So we're all agreed, war it is.

    We'll get our giant to build a causeway to face theirs




  • Might stop the army lads giving out if we did go to war with Scotland..


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,630 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Might stop the army lads giving out if we did go to war with Scotland..

    Bet the Scots army lads don't sleep in their cars.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    Both the Micks and the Jocks should phuck off.

    Rockall belongs to the Seagulls who have inhabited it for thousands of years.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,069 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    surprised RTE lead with this...bit provocative?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    Il3iuEPpMnfa.gif


  • Registered Users Posts: 80,795 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn


    If we just blow up Rockall so it's not visible at low water it will solve the whole problem.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,355 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Bet the Scots army lads don't sleep in their cars.


    In this case, we are the ones who wear the trousers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,126 ✭✭✭screamer


    Paddy Englishman, paddy Irishman and paddy Scotsman gonna be in a big fist fight yet.......


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭Nobelium


    Fishing rights/administration for Scotland has been devolved to the Scottish Government by the British Parliament.

    Scotland is one of the most sectarian countries in the world.

    - There's certain loyalist Scottish elements that can be the most anti Irish and sectarian when they start.

    The clueless out of touch Dublin government need to wakey wakey on this one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,658 ✭✭✭policarp


    Who owns Rockall?

    There was a deranged Englishman who landed on the rock a good few years ago and claimed it for the U.K.

    So who has jurisdiction over Rockall?


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,368 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Nobelium wrote: »
    Fishing rights/administration for Scotland has been devolved to the Scottish Government by the British Parliament.

    Scotland is one of the most sectarian countries in the world.

    - There's certain loyalist Scottish elements that can be the most anti Irish and sectarian when they start.

    The clueless out of touch Dublin government need to wakey wakey on this one.

    Clueless.... Out of touch.

    We have had a policy in Ireland of not recognising their claim over the rock for decades.

    We cite international and European fishing agreements and water rights all the time.

    We are well versed in Scottish politics.

    What clueless part are you referring to or was this another clueless post of supposed understanding of the Irish position.?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭Nobelium


    policarp wrote: »
    Who owns Rockall?

    There was a deranged Englishman who landed on the rock a good few years ago and claimed it for the U.K.

    So who has jurisdiction over Rockall?

    Britain (now devolved to Scotland) claims jurisdiction, Ireland doesn't, but claims it's international waters.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,355 ✭✭✭Jim Gazebo


    Totally mad to try and claim 24 miles or so of the sea. Bang out of order in my opinion. I've seen UK / Spanish and French boats off the South Coast, I fully expect us to threaten to police our 12 mile limit if the Scottish think the can police somewhere they don't even officially own.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭Nobelium


    listermint wrote: »
    Clueless.... Out of touch.

    We have had a policy in Ireland of not recognising their claim over the rock for decades.

    We cite international and European fishing agreements and water rights all the time.

    We are well versed in Scottish politics.

    What clueless part are you referring to or was this another clueless post of supposed understanding of the Irish position.?

    Scotland is going to run rings around them if they don't wake up


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,349 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    I'd just like to draw your respective attention to the Turbot War.
    Ourselves, Canada and the UK nearly went to war against Spain and Germany in 1995 , fcukin' '95.
    You couldn't make this **** up.

    The Turbot War (known in Spain as Guerra del Fletán) was an international fishing dispute between Canada (with popular support from the United Kingdom and Ireland) and Spain (supported by the European Union and Iceland).

    It's well worth a "Google ".

    Oh and **** you Scotland.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 33,368 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Nobelium wrote: »
    Scotland is going to run rings around them if they don't wake up

    Yeah ok.

    Enjoy the pints


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