Czech culture and sex

Mike Hoch · 13-08-2018 6:36pm #1

Honest question here.

As we all know, Ireland's dalliances with the porn industry are so insanely rare that, of a country with a combined population of over 6 million, any film or series shot on the island, always by a foreign producer, actually prompts newspaper headlines. From your one from the Tallaght chipper in the relatively early days of our exposure to internet porn, the woman riding what she claimed are Gardai on film, to your scouser one touring Ireland riding GAA players and bank managers, our media engages in the type of, if not shock and revulsion, then certainty a level of scrutiny that surely no other Western nation would engage in, and probably hasn't since the 70s. Of all the Irish people to have starred in a pornographic film, the majority seem to have ended up on the front page of a newspaper out of the sheer rare novelty of it all.

The Czech Republic is only a few million people bigger than ourselves, and one tube site lists 879 porn stars, although I'd imagine there must be a few times more who have made the odd film rather than made a career out of it. You take a cursory look at any tube site, there are god knows how many videos of full on orgies and groups of men taking on one woman, featuring from accredited actresses to seemingly random women there for a laugh and a few quid, aged anywhere from 18 to 60 by the looks of it. Aside from one incident when the daughter of a PM (or president) was allegedly spotted in the background of an orgy in a non participating role, I take it this activity is of utter disinterest to the Czech media.

Out of curiosity I looked up one on Facebook who uses her stage name for FB,j and the page seems to combine her business life with her personal life. Alongside pixelated for FB shots of her before taking part in some orgy in Prague are photos of her going on holidays with her mother, taking what seems to be her niece to the zoo, tagging her father and sister in adoring happy birthday posts. The funny thing is, trawling through her friend list, they all seem to be at this. Page run under stage name, and most clearly have a regular relationship with family, friends and partners (some put up feckin wedding photos?!!?), all of whom are Facebook friends, despite their job being one that, I have little doubt, the vast majority of Irish families would utterly disown their kids for.

Even a cursory look at Escort Ireland reveals 19 Czechs working in this country. All fly in fly out I'd imagine- there seems to be feck all Czechs in Ireland. Their economy seems to be one of the healthier of the post communist ones, so the excuse of dire poverty doesn't to me seem to be a push factor into the industry like it might be elsewhere.

Of the circa 2.4 million Irish/ Northern women of legal age on this island, a total of 19 are working tonight. Most of them using pixelated pictures to hide their identity.

Does anyone know what the difference in Czech culture is? Is it really considered socially acceptable there to engage in whatever you see fits yourself best? I'm not pontificating about their lifestyle or their culture. I'm just wondering is Czech culture really more open to sex work as a career, or are these seemingly thousands of women a statistical anomaly?

Harry Palmr · 13-08-2018 6:42pm

It's not so much a Czech* thing it's an Irish thing. While the numbers vary you'll probably find Ireland is the real outlier along with the Vatican.

*they are fantastically good looking though so maybe they just can't help themselves.

jamesbere · 13-08-2018 6:47pm

I think we are more reserved when it comes to sex. Alot of that stems from the church and how it was not talked about in the media up to 20 years ago.

Europeans are more open to sex.

bear1 · 13-08-2018 6:49pm

Mike Hoch wrote: »

Honest question here.

As we all know, Ireland's dalliances with the porn industry are so insanely rare that, of a country with a combined population of over 6 million, any film or series shot on the island, always by a foreign producer, actually prompts newspaper headlines. From your one from the Tallaght chipper in the relatively early days of our exposure to internet porn, the woman riding what she claimed are Gardai on film, to your scouser one touring Ireland riding GAA players and bank managers, our media engages in the type of, if not shock and revulsion, then certainty a level of scrutiny that surely no other Western nation would engage in, and probably hasn't since the 70s. Of all the Irish people to have starred in a pornographic film, the majority seem to have ended up on the front page of a newspaper out of the sheer rare novelty of it all.

The Czech Republic is only a few million people bigger than ourselves, and one tube site lists 879 porn stars, although I'd imagine there must be a few times more who have made the odd film rather than made a career out of it. You take a cursory look at any tube site, there are god knows how many videos of full on orgies and groups of men taking on one woman, featuring from accredited actresses to seemingly random women there for a laugh and a few quid, aged anywhere from 18 to 60 by the looks of it. Aside from one incident when the daughter of a PM (or president) was allegedly spotted in the background of an orgy in a non participating role, I take it this activity is of utter disinterest to the Czech media.

Out of curiosity I looked up one on Facebook who uses her stage name for FB,j and the page seems to combine her business life with her personal life. Alongside pixelated for FB shots of her before taking part in some orgy in Prague are photos of her going on holidays with her mother, taking what seems to be her niece to the zoo, tagging her father and sister in adoring happy birthday posts. The funny thing is, trawling through her friend list, they all seem to be at this. Page run under stage name, and most clearly have a regular relationship with family, friends and partners (some put up feckin wedding photos?!!?), all of whom are Facebook friends, despite their job being one that, I have little doubt, the vast majority of Irish families would utterly disown their kids for.

Even a cursory look at Escort Ireland reveals 19 Czechs working in this country. All fly in fly out I'd imagine- there seems to be feck all Czechs in Ireland. Their economy seems to be one of the healthier of the post communist ones, so the excuse of dire poverty doesn't to me seem to be a push factor into the industry like it might be elsewhere.

Of the circa 2.4 million Irish/ Northern women of legal age on this island, a total of 19 are working tonight. Most of them using pixelated pictures to hide their identity.

Does anyone know what the difference in Czech culture is? Is it really considered socially acceptable there to engage in whatever you see fits yourself best? I'm not pontificating about their lifestyle or their culture. I'm just wondering is Czech culture really more open to sex work as a career, or are these seemingly thousands of women a statistical anomaly?

Have you seen the women there?

Edgware · 13-08-2018 6:52pm

jamesbere wrote: »

I think we are more reserved when it comes to sex. Alot of that stems from the church and how it was not talked about in the media up to 20 years ago.

Europeans are more open to sex.

20 years ago was 1998. You probably didn't discuss it in the creche and now you just believe some gob****e you heard on R.T.E.

The Pheasant2 · 13-08-2018 6:53pm

Probably something to do with Czech women being amongst the most beautiful I've seen in all my travels.

Fann Linn · 13-08-2018 6:54pm

Mike Hoch wrote: »

Honest question here.

As we all know, Ireland's dalliances with the porn industry are so insanely rare that, of a country with a combined population of over 6 million, any film or series shot on the island, always by a foreign producer, actually prompts newspaper headlines. From your one from the Tallaght chipper in the relatively early days of our exposure to internet porn, the woman riding what she claimed are Gardai on film, to your scouser one touring Ireland riding GAA players and bank managers, our media engages in the type of, if not shock and revulsion, then certainty a level of scrutiny that surely no other Western nation would engage in, and probably hasn't since the 70s. Of all the Irish people to have starred in a pornographic film, the majority seem to have ended up on the front page of a newspaper out of the sheer rare novelty of it all.

The Czech Republic is only a few million people bigger than ourselves, and one tube site lists 879 porn stars, although I'd imagine there must be a few times more who have made the odd film rather than made a career out of it. You take a cursory look at any tube site, there are god knows how many videos of full on orgies and groups of men taking on one woman, featuring from accredited actresses to seemingly random women there for a laugh and a few quid, aged anywhere from 18 to 60 by the looks of it. Aside from one incident when the daughter of a PM (or president) was allegedly spotted in the background of an orgy in a non participating role, I take it this activity is of utter disinterest to the Czech media.

Out of curiosity I looked up one on Facebook who uses her stage name for FB,j and the page seems to combine her business life with her personal life. Alongside pixelated for FB shots of her before taking part in some orgy in Prague are photos of her going on holidays with her mother, taking what seems to be her niece to the zoo, tagging her father and sister in adoring happy birthday posts. The funny thing is, trawling through her friend list, they all seem to be at this. Page run under stage name, and most clearly have a regular relationship with family, friends and partners (some put up feckin wedding photos?!!?), all of whom are Facebook friends, despite their job being one that, I have little doubt, the vast majority of Irish families would utterly disown their kids for.

Even a cursory look at Escort Ireland reveals 19 Czechs working in this country. All fly in fly out I'd imagine- there seems to be feck all Czechs in Ireland. Their economy seems to be one of the healthier of the post communist ones, so the excuse of dire poverty doesn't to me seem to be a push factor into the industry like it might be elsewhere.

Of the circa 2.4 million Irish/ Northern women of legal age on this island, a total of 19 are working tonight. Most of them using pixelated pictures to hide their identity.

Does anyone know what the difference in Czech culture is? Is it really considered socially acceptable there to engage in whatever you see fits yourself best? I'm not pontificating about their lifestyle or their culture. I'm just wondering is Czech culture really more open to sex work as a career, or are these seemingly thousands of women a statistical anomaly?

Links.

Gatling · 13-08-2018 6:55pm

Roll on Prague in January

Mike Hoch · 13-08-2018 6:55pm

The Pheasant2 wrote: »

Probably something to do with Czech women being amongst the most beautiful I've seen in all my travels.

Lebanese women are beautiful.

A significant amount would probably be found chopped up by their father's/ brother's hand if they engaged in this conduct.

soups05 · 13-08-2018 6:56pm

third post in reply quotes lengthy OP....sigh.

regards the OP, you spend far too much time thinking of porn, get a partner lol.

AH response: wait, they get paid to be in them, they don't have to pay for the experience? Am ringing my producer dammit

dotsman · 13-08-2018 6:56pm

Not only are Europeans more open to sex, that particular Bohemian part of Europe - Germany, Austria, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania have a far healthier attitude to sex and nudity in general.

They simply cannot contemplate the numerous hang-ups that we have. We may no longer be active catholics, but the foundation for our social norms is still very rooted in a deep shame-filled conservative attitude to sex and nudity. We have made great progress and continue to do so, but it will probably take generations before we can completely shake off the legacy of our "sex and nudity are evil and shall not even be discussed, let alone tolerated" past.

Mike Hoch · 13-08-2018 6:58pm

soups05 wrote: »

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regards the OP, you spend far too much time thinking of porn, get a partner lol.

I have. I've better things to discuss with her than what I know about Czech porn and that I know escort Ireland even exists :pac::pac:

Outlaw Pete · 13-08-2018 6:58pm

"Ride me sideways" was another one.

begbysback · 13-08-2018 6:59pm

Pics?

Czech mate!

Poor Uncle Tom · 13-08-2018 7:00pm

Mike Hoch wrote: »

Ireland's dalliances with the porn industry are so insanely rare that,

The internet and porn.... what an odd combination.

Mike Hoch · 13-08-2018 7:05pm

dotsman wrote: »

Not only are Europeans more open to sex, that particular Bohemian part of Europe - Germany, Austria, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania have a far healthier attitude to sex and nudity in general.

They simply cannot contemplate the numerous hang-ups that we have. We may no longer be active catholics, but the foundation for our social norms is still very rooted in a deep shame-filled conservative attitude to sex and nudity. We have made great progress and continue to do so, but it will probably take generations before we can completely shake off the legacy of our "sex and nudity are evil and shall not even be discussed, let alone tolerated" past.

Owning your sex life on your terms is one thing. And yes, absolutely I'd agree that some, but by no means all, Irish women are prone to acting in a way abroad that they never would at home, such is their concern about word getting about the locale. Although I'd still say it's a lower percentage than Brits etc abroad.

But maintaining a regular relationship with a daughter who stars in videos which are titled with her stage name referring to her as whore, slut, skank, humiliated, trash etc, where she takes part in all manner of activity that wouldn't fall under the remit of straight old riding (having some geezers take a slash on them for one thing), when you log on to Facebook in the afternoon and she's posted a photo of herself and five geezers she's only just met who are going to run a train through her on film for the course of the afternoon for a couple of quid, as I said each to their own but there's few people from most societies who would be remotely comfortable with their sister or daughter taking part in such activity, yet it seems to be a live and let live attitude over there.

I'm just wondering why that is the case. It can't all be traditional secularism. Were Czechs really busy organising orgies to the same extent before the internet in the dark days of communism?

Ipso · 13-08-2018 7:06pm

dotsman wrote: »

Not only are Europeans more open to sex, that particular Bohemian part of Europe - Germany, Austria, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania have a far healthier attitude to sex and nudity in general.

They simply cannot contemplate the numerous hang-ups that we have. We may no longer be active catholics, but the foundation for our social norms is still very rooted in a deep shame-filled conservative attitude to sex and nudity. We have made great progress and continue to do so, but it will probably take generations before we can completely shake off the legacy of our "sex and nudity are evil and shall not even be discussed, let alone tolerated" past.

You're talking about the Valentines day Late Late show.

whisky_galore · 13-08-2018 7:16pm

I don't think native Irish porn will ever take off.

Mary and John from down the road, dressed in gear they got in the fancy dress shop grunting like farm animals... no thanks.

TheValeyard · 13-08-2018 7:24pm

whisky_galore wrote: »

I don't think native Irish porn will ever take off.

Mary and John from down the road, dressed in gear they got in the fancy dress shop grunting like farm animals... no thanks.

Probably a market for it.

Mike Hoch · 13-08-2018 7:27pm

bear1 wrote: »

Have you seen the women there?

I have. I was there around 12 years ago.

Some beauts, some very average. Like anywhere else really, including here.

The only place I've been where pretty much every woman seemed exceptional was Australia. They're real gym junkies, even most women in their 50's would be worth a go (it's getting that way here with the increase in gym culture and healthy living- growing up you'd struggle to think of any remotely attractive local women over 35, it was as if they gave up being bothered once they'd reached a certain age)

Sal Butamol · 13-08-2018 7:38pm

"Wait a minute, there's naked women on the internet getting the ride?"

Tom Cruise to Seth Rogan

Google it.

somesoldiers · 13-08-2018 7:53pm

There’s an Irish shemale does be riding the boyfriend on cams, Chloe or something, if you have a any good to ye?

Henry Ford III · 13-08-2018 7:58pm

I sometimes wonder what's behind the burkha? Just not for very long.

Malayalam · 13-08-2018 8:04pm

Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »

The internet and porn.... what an odd combination.

Not really for an OP with such a username

Visconti · 13-08-2018 8:05pm

Mike Hoch wrote: »

Honest question here.

As we all know, Ireland's dalliances with the porn industry are so insanely rare that, of a country with a combined population of over 6 million, any film or series shot on the island, always by a foreign producer, actually prompts newspaper headlines. From your one from the Tallaght chipper in the relatively early days of our exposure to internet porn, the woman riding what she claimed are Gardai on film, to your scouser one touring Ireland riding GAA players and bank managers, our media engages in the type of, if not shock and revulsion, then certainty a level of scrutiny that surely no other Western nation would engage in, and probably hasn't since the 70s. Of all the Irish people to have starred in a pornographic film, the majority seem to have ended up on the front page of a newspaper out of the sheer rare novelty of it all.

The Czech Republic is only a few million people bigger than ourselves, and one tube site lists 879 porn stars, although I'd imagine there must be a few times more who have made the odd film rather than made a career out of it. You take a cursory look at any tube site, there are god knows how many videos of full on orgies and groups of men taking on one woman, featuring from accredited actresses to seemingly random women there for a laugh and a few quid, aged anywhere from 18 to 60 by the looks of it. Aside from one incident when the daughter of a PM (or president) was allegedly spotted in the background of an orgy in a non participating role, I take it this activity is of utter disinterest to the Czech media.

Out of curiosity I looked up one on Facebook who uses her stage name for FB,j and the page seems to combine her business life with her personal life. Alongside pixelated for FB shots of her before taking part in some orgy in Prague are photos of her going on holidays with her mother, taking what seems to be her niece to the zoo, tagging her father and sister in adoring happy birthday posts. The funny thing is, trawling through her friend list, they all seem to be at this. Page run under stage name, and most clearly have a regular relationship with family, friends and partners (some put up feckin wedding photos?!!?), all of whom are Facebook friends, despite their job being one that, I have little doubt, the vast majority of Irish families would utterly disown their kids for.

Even a cursory look at Escort Ireland reveals 19 Czechs working in this country. All fly in fly out I'd imagine- there seems to be feck all Czechs in Ireland. Their economy seems to be one of the healthier of the post communist ones, so the excuse of dire poverty doesn't to me seem to be a push factor into the industry like it might be elsewhere.

Of the circa 2.4 million Irish/ Northern women of legal age on this island, a total of 19 are working tonight. Most of them using pixelated pictures to hide their identity.

Does anyone know what the difference in Czech culture is? Is it really considered socially acceptable there to engage in whatever you see fits yourself best? I'm not pontificating about their lifestyle or their culture. I'm just wondering is Czech culture really more open to sex work as a career, or are these seemingly thousands of women a statistical anomaly?

Reason for the porn industries is economy or lack of it, czec, bulgarian, Albanian, romanian etc
Was the girl riding the gaa guys not an Italian ?
Irish people gossip and bitch too much for porn or anything to take off.

pleas advice · 13-08-2018 8:08pm

Edgware wrote: »

20 years ago was 1998. You probably didn't discuss it in the creche and now you just believe some gob****e you heard on R.T.E.

there was no sex in Ireland before Gay Byrne

TheValeyard · 13-08-2018 8:20pm

pleas advice wrote: »

there was no sex in Ireland before Gay Byrne

Oliver J Flanagan?

Mike Hoch · 13-08-2018 8:21pm

Visconti wrote: »

Reason for the porn industries is economy or lack of it, czec, bulgarian, Albanian, romanian etc
Was the girl riding the gaa guys not an Italian ?
Irish people gossip and bitch too much for porn or anything to take off.

At one stage we had 15 percent unemployment, with many of the employed in dire straits. It didn't cause any seismic change.

The Czech Republic is not Moldova or Chechnya, by a long stretch.

PTH2009 · 13-08-2018 8:22pm

How come a lot of eastern European Men and women are huge gym goers ????. It's all weightlifting to them

Boom_Bap · 13-08-2018 8:23pm

It's just like the football, the market here isn't great, so they go abroad for the money and riches.

Plus, who wants to hear Jacinta from Macroom trying to talk dirty to a pasty failed county star who still dreams of lifting Sam.

(no offence to any Jacinta's in Macroom)

imme · 13-08-2018 8:27pm

As I see it porn is exploitation.
It is easier to exploit poorer people.

Porn from Czech republic went from zero to off the scale when they became part of the 1st world.

The majority of escorts and illegal sex industry in Ireland is a result of people trafficking, exploitation and abuse.

In respect of gay porn, the number of Irish 'performers' might surprise the general population.

Czech culture and sex

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