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  • #362
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    Gravelly wrote: »
    Lies perhaps?

    Good job deflecting from your lies in the original post.


    Could be. Could be the realisation that in a thread about someone trying to burn down a potential refugee centre you aren't posting against the arsonist. I doubt it though. More likely you are triggered by the idea that your opinion isn't as popular as you thought. Maybe you thought there were no rereg accounts and random people were constantly just compelled to register on Boards to post against immigrants.


    As to proof, what are you looking for exactly? Pick any immigration related thread and you'll see one of the six same accounts complaining about immigrants and at least two new accounts supporting them.


  • #363
    Gravelly
    Registered Users Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    Could be. Could be the realisation that in a thread about someone trying to burn down a potential refugee centre you aren't posting against the arsonist. I doubt it though. More likely you are triggered by the idea that your opinion isn't as popular as you thought. Maybe you thought there were no rereg accounts and random people were constantly just compelled to register on Boards to post against immigrants.


    As to proof, what are you looking for exactly? Pick any immigration related thread and you'll see one of the six same accounts complaining about immigrants and at least two new accounts supporting them.

    No proof then as I asked? Just more lies and deflection.


  • #364
    tretorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭tretorn


    Berserker wrote: »
    There are white people born here that would not be into Irish authors, music and the Irish way of life, whatever the later means. You appear to have an issue with skin colour. Most people who visit or live here abide by the law of the land. Not sure what that has to do with the national identity.



    No, a possible solution is to send them to these locations, open up new business and facilities and revive these ghost towns.

    Isnt it great to live in La, La land.


  • #365
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    Gravelly wrote: »
    No proof then as I asked? Just more lies and deflection.


    Like I said, pick a thread.


  • #366
    Berserker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Berserker


    jmayo wrote: »
    Berserker, I find your post frankly quite infantile.

    You can't just dump a load of people somewhere and then go off and try and magically find new employment for them, especially when it is in places that offers no discernible attractions for new enterprises and never had a major history of employment. It is just lunacy and frankly a childish fantasy.
    jmayo wrote: »
    Jaysus another dreamer.
    What businesses and industries are they going to start up?
    A coffee shop maybe:rolleyes:

    The only hope for these little towns and villages is that ultimately in the future they become commuter locations for much bigger places with actual industry and commercial hubs.

    I'm not suggesting that you dump them into these locations, bugger off and expect industries and businesses to pop up. These rural towns needs to be rejuvenated anyway, so why not included these people in that process. If they need education, educate them. It's not going to happen overnight, everyone knows that. If it's best that these towns become commuter towns for others hubs, then so be it. These people can reside in these new towns, integrate into the communities and travel to the hubs like everyone else.


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  • #367
    tretorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭tretorn


    Omackeral wrote: »
    There's a word for that. Everyone knows what is is but I'll refrain.

    I love how you say you wanna be around whites only but then say;



    The irony is lovely. Best is this though, when you speak for literally billions of people;



    How can they simultaneously wanna only live among their own yet move away from their own country, which is presumably even more full of their own?! It's like Scrodinger's immigrant, stealing all our jobs but yet on welfare.


    Isnt the wanting to live among their own the whole problem in France and Spain and The Netherlands and Brussels. There are Muslim ghettoes in all of these countries because the men dont want to integrate because then the women might get an education and get uppity. They might even go to the Police if the husband gives them a few clatters for going outside the door without the complete body cover up.

    Hmm, yes, people do move far from their feudal backward countries but yet want to live by their feudal backward laws in their host countries, some of these laws include mutilating female children and others include honour killing your own daughter or sister because she wants to live her life as she chooses.

    Hmm, yes, indeed I do prefer enlightened fellow white Irish people like myself and I dont want my children to marry outside their own kind. I would be aghast if my daughter came home with a Martin Mc Donagh from halting sitte up the road. I would be even more upset if she arrived home with Rasheed from Iran or Syria .I wouldnt be happy about my three sons getting involved with women from these backgrounds either.

    And if that makes me racist I couldnt care less.


  • #368
    tretorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭tretorn


    Berserker wrote: »
    I'm not suggesting that you dump them into these locations, bugger off and expect industries and businesses to pop up. These rural towns needs to be rejuvenated anyway, so why not included these people in that process. If they need education, educate them. It's not going to happen overnight, everyone knows that. If it's best that these towns become commuter towns for others hubs, then so be it. These people can reside in these new towns, integrate into the communities and travel to the hubs like everyone else.

    If these people are Muslim they wont integrate into the local community.

    They dont drink alcohol so wont go to the pub or participate in activities where alcohol is available. They arent allowed take out mortgages so will never be able to invest in their own homes. They want segregated schooling so the local schools wont appeal to them. They dont want boys and girls socialising together so most recreational opportunities apart from single sex team games are out.

    Havent we learnt all of what lies ahead from France, Spain, Brussels and Germany, Do people seriously think things are going to work out positively here.


  • #369
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    That kinda proves my point - people have to come to anonymous websites to share these opinions. You won't find them on a mainstream current affairs program or in the letters section of a broadsheet newspaper, despite there clearly being a sizeable appetite for them.

    I'd argue that the initial reaction to the candidacy, the surprise electoral success, and the reaction to that success of Peter Casey in the presidential election is part of the same thing. The entire mainstream united as one to condemn "unacceptable" political beliefs - a concept which should be an oxymoron in a true democracy.

    Here's the thing though, Casey was largely known for one thing: being anti traveler. Running on this got him 23% of the vote.

    But the likes of Identity Ireland are largely known for one thing: being anti immigrant. Running in this got them a total of 183 votes... or 0.0085%.


  • #370
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    tretorn wrote: »
    Isnt the wanting to live among their own the whole problem in France and Spain and The Netherlands and Brussels. There are Muslim ghettoes in all of these countries because the men dont want to integrate because then the women might get an education and get uppity. They might even go to the Police if the husband gives them a few clatters for going outside the door without the complete body cover up.

    Hmm, yes, people do move far from their feudal backward countries but yet want to live by their feudal backward laws in their host countries, some of these laws include mutilating female children and others include honour killing your own daughter or sister because she wants to live her life as she chooses.

    Hmm, yes, indeed I do prefer enlightened fellow white Irish people like myself and I dont want my children to marry outside their own kind. I would be aghast if my daughter came home with a Martin Mc Donagh from halting sitte up the road. I would be even more upset if she arrived home with Rasheed from Iran or Syria .I wouldnt be happy about my three sons getting involved with women from these backgrounds either.

    And if that makes me racist I couldnt care less.


    It seems it can be beneficial not to live among your own so.


  • #371
    tretorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭tretorn


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Here's the thing though, Casey was largely known for one thing: being anti traveler. Running on this got him 23% of the vote.

    But the likes of Identity Ireland are largely known for one thing: being anti immigrant. Running in this got them a total of 183 votes... or 0.0085%.

    Have you kept up to date with what is happening in Italy, France, The Netherlands, Austria, Germany and the UK. The anti immigrant vote is changing the political landscape in all those countries. If the security authorities werent so successful at foiling more murderous rampages the shift to the far right would be even stronger. The Austrians sent tanks to their border with Germany to prevent migrants getting in, who would have thought this would happen in 2017/ 2018.

    If a candidate stands on an anti immigration platform here there is no doubt he or she will get a sizeable portion of the vote. Peter Casey got enough votes to scare the political establishment and he for the most part was having a laugh, he wasnt even prepared for the reaction to the comments he made and came across as being short of a few brain cells, that didnt deter thousands and thousands of people voting for him. There does seem to have been concerted action against criminal travellers after Casey spoke up so those in power definitely sat up after the Presidential election.


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  • #372
    Berserker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Berserker


    tretorn wrote: »
    If these people are Muslim they wont integrate into the local community.

    They dont drink alcohol so wont go to the pub or participate in activities where alcohol is available. They arent allowed take out mortgages so will never be able to invest in their own homes. They want segregated schooling so the local schools wont appeal to them. They dont want boys and girls socialising together so most recreational opportunities apart from single sex team games are out.

    Havent we learnt all of what lies ahead from France, Spain, Brussels and Germany, Do people seriously think things are going to work out positively here.

    Nothing to suggest that being Muslim means you wont integrate into the community. You may not be aware of this but there are Muslim people in Ireland already. The centres they have built are used open to and used by non-Muslim people. Last year, they opened them to homeless people during the cold weather and storms. They work in jobs, just like the rest of us. Your point on alcohol is nonsense. Most Irish people won't be able to afford mortgages going forward, so the Muslim people will be in good company on that front.


  • #373
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    tretorn wrote: »
    Isnt the wanting to live among their own the whole problem in France and Spain and The Netherlands and Brussels. There are Muslim ghettoes in all of these countries because the men dont want to integrate because then the women might get an education and get uppity. They might even go to the Police if the husband gives them a few clatters for going outside the door without the complete body cover up.

    Hmm, yes, people do move far from their feudal backward countries but yet want to live by their feudal backward laws in their host countries, some of these laws include mutilating female children and others include honour killing your own daughter or sister because she wants to live her life as she chooses.

    Some of that might have some merit. Nothing to do with skin colour though really.

    tretorn wrote: »
    Hmm, yes, indeed I do prefer enlightened fellow white Irish people like myself and I dont want my children to marry outside their own kind.

    This makes you a deluded, bigoted buffoon. You are far from enlightened. You're as ignorant as f*ck.
    tretorn wrote: »
    And if that makes me racist I couldnt care less.

    It does, it really does.


  • #374
    snotboogie
    Registered Users Posts: 3,556 ✭✭✭snotboogie


    tretorn wrote: »

    Hmm, yes, indeed I do prefer enlightened fellow white Irish people like myself and I dont want my children to marry outside their own kind. I would be aghast if my daughter came home with a Martin Mc Donagh from halting sitte up the road. I would be even more upset if she arrived home with Rasheed from Iran or Syria .I wouldnt be happy about my three sons getting involved with women from these backgrounds either.

    And if that makes me racist I couldnt care less.

    Yikes lol. What do you consider your own kind? Would you freak if your son came home with an English girl? Or would you draw the line at a Spanish girl? Brazilian? Japanese? If you have specific concerns about a culture thats one thing but to disapprove of marrying "outside of their own kind" is a whole other...


  • #375
    tretorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭tretorn


    Call me whatever you like.

    I like not having armed Garda patrolling Grafton Street and bollards everywhere in case some crazed lunatic tries to drive a refridgerated truck at me. Limiting people who pose a threat to my way of life because I wont accomodate or appease their feudalism is fine by me so if someone stands on a platform proposing strong immigrant laws and promising to fast track those refused asylum out of the country they will get my number one vote.

    Its only a matter of time till we get candidates like Peter Casey coming forward. The only people who really want mass immigration are employers who want cheap labour and cheap labour isnt in the interests of the lower paid working people. These are the people competing too for social housing with unemployed and unemployable immigrants. Actually the NGOS and Housing Charities and Migrant councils and anti racist propoganda want unlimited immigration too, it pays their wages for them so whats not to like about endless dinghies in the Mediterrenean.

    I have no problem with intermingling with any race that doesnt treat women cruelly and is civilised in its laws and customs, they are my kind of people.


  • #376
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    Fr. Hiroshima Twinkie wrote: »
    When can we have a discussion about how right-wing beliefs (violence against innocent people who have committed the most heinous crime of being different from you) are incompatible with Western values? :)


    There's a Tommy Robinson thread somewhere.


  • #377
    michellie
    Registered Users Posts: 2,691 ✭✭✭michellie


    There's a direct provision centre close to where I live, its next door to my daughters school. No issues with it, my daughter is close friends with a little girl who lived in there.


  • #378
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    tretorn wrote: »
    Call me whatever you like.

    A racist.


  • #379
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    tretorn wrote: »
    Have you kept up to date with what is happening in Italy, France, The Netherlands, Austria, Germany and the UK. The anti immigrant vote is changing the political landscape in all those countries.
    But not in Ireland.

    I know it`s upsetting that there are not many others who are as deeply interested in identity politics as you are, but the fact is Identity Ireland received 0.0085% of the vote in Ireland. It looks like if you want to live somewhere where you will have some actual support for your far right ideologies, you may have to... well, migrate.


  • #380
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Billy86 wrote: »
    But not in Ireland.

    I know it`s upsetting that there are not many others who are as deeply interested in identity politics as you are, but the fact is Identity Ireland received 0.0085% of the vote in Ireland. It looks like if you want to live somewhere where you will have some actual support for your far right ideologies, you may have to... well, migrate.

    I suggest Charlottesville. Look at the pure pale skin on yer man/woman especially...

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  • #381
    jmayo
    Registered Users Posts: 13,078 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    Berserker wrote: »
    I'm not suggesting that you dump them into these locations, bugger off and expect industries and businesses to pop up. These rural towns needs to be rejuvenated anyway, so why not included these people in that process. If they need education, educate them. It's not going to happen overnight, everyone knows that. If it's best that these towns become commuter towns for others hubs, then so be it. These people can reside in these new towns, integrate into the communities and travel to the hubs like everyone else.

    But you are suggesting dumping them there with promises about giving them necessary education and promises about possible future prosperity.

    It is almost like a build and they will come, although in your case it is they will come and shure we will build something for them at some stage. :rolleyes:

    BTW where does the budget for the added education come from ?
    What other public funded service takes the hit ?

    And only if we manage to keep our growth going will we be talking about maybe half a century before the likes of Sligo rivals the likes of Galway and has it's own hubs like possibly Rooskey.

    Do you realise what Ireland was like for most of it's independence ?
    It is only in the 25 odd years we have had real growth and where we haven't had mass emigration.
    Berserker wrote: »
    Nothing to suggest that being Muslim means you wont integrate into the community. You may not be aware of this but there are Muslim people in Ireland already. The centres they have built are used open to and used by non-Muslim people. Last year, they opened them to homeless people during the cold weather and storms. They work in jobs, just like the rest of us.

    You really refuse to see reality.
    Take a look at UK, France, Belgium as to where mass muslim immigration gets you.

    The same centre that took the homeless in has been linked to an islamist organisation even banned in the muslim world.
    The same centre has had a spokesperson who has told you the future already, but people like you chose to ignore him.
    He has said they will want segregation in education, segregation in sports, etc.
    And it's the type of segregation that the catholic church could only dream of in their heyday.

    Hell the only time people like you took him seriously was when he condoned FGM.


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  • #382
    jmayo
    Registered Users Posts: 13,078 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    tretorn wrote: »
    Isnt the wanting to live among their own the whole problem in France and Spain and The Netherlands and Brussels. There are Muslim ghettoes in all of these countries because the men dont want to integrate because then the women might get an education and get uppity. They might even go to the Police if the husband gives them a few clatters for going outside the door without the complete body cover up.

    Hmm, yes, people do move far from their feudal backward countries but yet want to live by their feudal backward laws in their host countries, some of these laws include mutilating female children and others include honour killing your own daughter or sister because she wants to live her life as she chooses.

    Hmm, yes, indeed I do prefer enlightened fellow white Irish people like myself and I dont want my children to marry outside their own kind....

    And if that makes me racist I couldnt care less.

    Ah jaysus tretorn whilst I can agree with you about dangers of islam and it's culture, the world AND IRELAND is full of perfectly fine people who aren't white Irish.

    Also you do know there are even white Irish muslims ?

    Islam is not a race, but an ideology, a very backward and often dangerous one when one chooses to adhere to it wholeheartedly.


  • #383
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    tretorn wrote: »
    If these people are Muslim they wont integrate into the local community.

    ..............




    ..which is, of course, their fault.
    tretorn wrote:

    Hmm, yes, indeed I do prefer enlightened fellow white Irish people like myself and I dont want my children to marry outside their own kind. I would be aghast if my daughter came home with a Martin Mc Donagh from halting sitte up the road. I would be even more upset if she arrived home with Rasheed from Iran or Syria .I wouldnt be happy about my three sons getting involved with women from these backgrounds either.
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  • #384
    MFPM
    Registered Users Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭MFPM


    tretorn wrote: »
    Call me whatever you like.

    I like not having armed Garda patrolling Grafton Street and bollards everywhere in case some crazed lunatic tries to drive a refridgerated truck at me. Limiting people who pose a threat to my way of life because I wont accomodate or appease their feudalism is fine by me so if someone stands on a platform proposing strong immigrant laws and promising to fast track those refused asylum out of the country they will get my number one vote.

    Its only a matter of time till we get candidates like Peter Casey coming forward. The only people who really want mass immigration are employers who want cheap labour and cheap labour isnt in the interests of the lower paid working people. These are the people competing too for social housing with unemployed and unemployable immigrants. Actually the NGOS and Housing Charities and Migrant councils and anti racist propoganda want unlimited immigration too, it pays their wages for them so whats not to like about endless dinghies in the Mediterrenean.

    I have no problem with intermingling with any race that doesnt treat women cruelly and is civilised in its laws and customs, they are my kind of people.
    I like not having armed Garda patrolling Grafton Street and bollards everywhere in case some crazed lunatic tries to drive a refridgerated truck at me.

    There are armed guard patrols all over Dublin city with regular check points - nothing at all to do with migrants just good old fashioned white Irish lads who go around killing people. Those said patrols have also been a feature of cities such as Limerick from time to time.
    Limiting people who pose a threat to my way of life because I wont accomodate or appease their feudalism is fine by me

    What a pile of hysterical hyperbole. No one is a threat to your 'way of life' what ever the f"ck that means. Who's asking you to 'appease' feudalism? People who come here live by the laws of this country, there are no laws compelling people to a feudal way of living.
    so if someone stands on a platform proposing strong immigrant laws and promising to fast track those refused asylum out of the country they will get my number one vote.

    We have strong immigrant laws, FFS - Ireland has one of the toughest asylum regimes in Europe with a near 90% rejection rate.
    Its only a matter of time till we get candidates like Peter Casey coming forward.

    We have them, and we've had them previously thankfully they're broadly irrelevant. I'm not sure Casey would agree with you on migrants thought - he was quite positive about the contribution of migrants during the elction. You need a vaccuos imbecile like Kevin Sharkey to represent you. You could also put your money where your mouth is and stand for election yourself, what do you say?
    The only people who really want mass immigration are employers who want cheap labour and cheap labour isnt in the interests of the lower paid working people.

    Firstly there is no mass immigration into Ireland. Secondly, if you're concerned about cheap labour why not argue for the extension of trade union rights, strengthening labour legislation, increasing the number of labour inspectors - why always target the victims (migrants) and not the perpetrators (some employers)?
    These are the people competing too for social housing with unemployed and unemployable immigrants. Actually the NGOS and Housing Charities and Migrant councils and anti racist propoganda want unlimited immigration too, it pays their wages for them so whats not to like about endless dinghies in the Mediterrenean.

    People are competing for social housing because there isn't enough of it and the state has neglected it for decades - it is not the fault of migrants. The pressure of migration is actually from european workers coming to Dublin to work for google etc and putting pressure on rents etc.
    Actually the NGOS and Housing Charities and Migrant councils and anti racist propoganda want unlimited immigration too, it pays their wages for them so whats not to like about endless dinghies in the Mediterrenean


    Can you provide a shred of evidence for this statement?

    Might I suggest you think before posting, that way you might save us the trouble of having to wade through this incoherent, simplistic, broadly factless xenophobic bullsh!t.


  • #385
    jmayo
    Registered Users Posts: 13,078 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    tretorn wrote: »
    I would be aghast if my daughter came home with a Martin Mc Donagh from halting sitte up the road. I would be even more upset if she arrived home with Rasheed from Iran or Syria .I wouldnt be happy about my three sons getting involved with women from these backgrounds either.

    And if that makes me racist I couldnt care less.

    Now I know tretorn has elicited howls of condemnation and derision from a lot of posters for some of their comments.
    And personally have to outright say I don't agree with their white Irish only comment.

    But and yes there is a but there.

    In all honesty how many non muslim people here would really want their daughter (or sister) to marry a member of the muslim faith from a muslim country?
    Would anyone here openly welcome their daughter or sister donning a hijab never mind a burka?
    Would they welcome them signing up to a life where ultimately they may have to become subservient to their husband and relinguish a lot of their rights and freewill ?

    I know I agree with tretorn here.
    There is no way in hell I would want a close female relative signing up for that kind of possible life.
    And I bet most of us, bar the ultra virtue signalers and loopers, would secretly admit as much.

    I just know that I will be greeted with examples of some girl marrying some muslim who is a modern professional, a sportsman or mega wealthy as proof of how all is grand with the world. :rolleyes:

    BTW I would not want a female relative marrying a traveller from a halting site because that culture is toxic for women in this day and age.
    No more than I would them marrying a member of KKK, scientology, jehovahs witness, or god forbid those awful Amishs ;).

    And if those truths are seen by some as bigoted then fair enough.

    I have always found that a lot of people turn into nimbys when push comes to shove.
    Some of us just openly admit it up front.


  • #386
    Sonic Youth
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 193 ✭✭Sonic Youth


    jmayo wrote: »
    Now I know tretorn has elicited howls of condemnation and derision from a lot of posters for some of their comments.
    And personally have to outright say I don't agree with their white Irish only comment.

    But and yes there is a but there.

    In all honesty how many non muslim people here would really want their daughter (or sister) to marry a member of the muslim faith from a muslim country?
    Would anyone here openly welcome their daughter or sister donning a hijab never mind a burka?
    Would they welcome them signing up to a life where ultimately they may have to become subservient to their husband and relinguish a lot of their rights and freewill ?

    I know I agree with tretorn here.
    There is no way in hell I would want a close female relative signing up for that kind of possible life.
    And I bet most of us, bar the ultra virtue signalers and loopers, would secretly admit as much.

    I just know that I will be greeted with examples of some girl marrying some muslim who is a modern professional, a sportsman or mega wealthy as proof of how all is grand with the world. :rolleyes:

    BTW I would not want a female relative marrying a traveller from a halting site because that culture is toxic for women in this day and age.
    No more than I would them marrying a member of KKK, scientology, jehovahs witness, or god forbid those awful Amishs ;).

    And if those truths are seen by some as bigoted then fair enough.

    I have always found that a lot of people turn into nimbys when push comes to shove.
    Some of us just openly admit it up front.

    It's the old 'I love travellers but I feel my neighbourhood just isn't suitable for a halting site' trick ;)


  • #387
    enricoh
    Registered Users Posts: 4,802 ✭✭✭enricoh


    No mass immigration into Ireland - iirc ireland has one of the highest percentages of immigration in europe.

    90% rejection rate for asylum seekers - and then we give them an amnesty after a few years, provide them with a house n full welfare. Great job. Numbers seeking asylum way up in 2018.

    1 in 3 on the homeless list is foreign, foreigners three times more likely to be on it than irish. No tax cuts in the last budget for paddy, our new neighbours need housing n dole instead.
    Splendid!


  • #388
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    enricoh wrote: »
    No mass immigration into Ireland - iirc ireland has one of the highest percentages of immigration in europe.

    .............!


    ...from other European states under freedom of movement.


  • #389
    woddensanta
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 78 ✭✭woddensanta


    I know it gets asked every thread but is anyone willing to finally tell us about the benefits mass migration from Africa, Asia etc brings to western nations? And perhaps one example of a country, city, town or village that has genuinely benefited from it? Like for example if I was to give examples like molenbeek etc and say "immigration has made this place worse" what exactly would be the yin to that yang?


  • #390
    meeeeh
    Registered Users Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Are some people in this thread worried that proud family tradition of webbed feet will disappear if their children marry someone whose origin is not inside 2 km radius?


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  • #391
    riffmongous
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,621 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    jmayo wrote: »
    Now I know tretorn has elicited howls of condemnation and derision from a lot of posters for some of their comments.
    And personally have to outright say I don't agree with their white Irish only comment.

    But and yes there is a but there.

    In all honesty how many non muslim people here would really want their daughter (or sister) to marry a member of the muslim faith from a muslim country?
    Would anyone here openly welcome their daughter or sister donning a hijab never mind a burka?
    Would they welcome them signing up to a life where ultimately they may have to become subservient to their husband and relinguish a lot of their rights and freewill ?

    I know I agree with tretorn here.
    There is no way in hell I would want a close female relative signing up for that kind of possible life.
    And I bet most of us, bar the ultra virtue signalers and loopers, would secretly admit as much.

    I just know that I will be greeted with examples of some girl marrying some muslim who is a modern professional, a sportsman or mega wealthy as proof of how all is grand with the world. :rolleyes:

    BTW I would not want a female relative marrying a traveller from a halting site because that culture is toxic for women in this day and age.
    No more than I would them marrying a member of KKK, scientology, jehovahs witness, or god forbid those awful Amishs ;).

    And if those truths are seen by some as bigoted then fair enough.

    I have always found that a lot of people turn into nimbys when push comes to shove.
    Some of us just openly admit it up front.
    Jehovahs, Klan, Amish are all christians.. would you want your daughter marrying a Christian? The problem is extremism, I'd have no problem with one of my family marrying the Muslims I'm friends with, cause they are no more extremist than I am


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