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  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭hellodolly


    Best of luck!! Champix helped me to quit on 5/10/09 and it's still the best thing I've ever done! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 207 ✭✭tmabr


    it begins, lol day one, i feel great about this, i dont seem to have the panic in me like previous attempts.
    thurs 26th day 10 is my planned quit day.

    im sick of smoking and i dont like it anymore:mad:


  • Registered Users Posts: 405 ✭✭connewitz


    tmabr wrote: »
    hi all, just registered on boards for a bit of support. just paid 133 euro for 4 weeks of champix. really goin to give it a go. im 38 and smoking 20 a day for the past 20 years. the most i ever lasted was 4 days after the alan carr course.

    gonna start in the morn, like a few on here , a 1 year old in the house so its well over due

    will keep all posted - cheers:)

    Congrats to you! If you stay with us, you will get a lot of support. So just give it another try. I am sure, you can do it this time.:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 Siska010


    Well, I don't think it's working for me :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 763 ✭✭✭F-Stop


    Siska010 wrote: »
    Well, I don't think it's working for me :(

    Siska010, don't be put off. It took nearly three weeks for the effects to kick in for me. It's not a magic bullet, you do still have to make an effort, but it makes the withdrawal much easier to deal with I found. For me it was a bit like pushing over a vending machine, I stopped smoking for a day, had two or three the next day, stopped for two days, bought another pack smoked about four took one drag on the last one and put it out and threw the pack away. I'm off them a month last Sunday.

    There's a few apps that record the date you quit, how many you smoked, the cost of a pack. It's a good incentive when tempted as you start to see how well you've been doing. I think there are websites that do the same thing too.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 36 Siska010


    Im in week 3 now, I passed my quit day days ago. I have no problems lighting up a smoke. I try to smoke as little as possible, but my stress levels are very high. I am kinda hoping you're right, this is week 3 now, it might still work.


  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭mrswalton


    Could someone remind me of the first 'page' of the pack of champix. I can't remember the dosage.

    was it, so many days just in the morning - then so many days morn and evening - then onto the stronger ones morning and evening?

    I tore off the first page and at the moment ive been taking a half pill every morning since Sunday.

    Anyone care to type out the details from their pack?

    THX


  • Registered Users Posts: 19 lil missy


    Hi
    Its 0.5mg for the first 3 days them 0.5mg morning and night for 4 days , then your on to 1.0mg morning and night. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭mrswalton


    Thanks lil missy, i wasn't far off.
    So double dose for me tomorrow.
    Thanks again.:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 405 ✭✭connewitz


    Siska010 wrote: »
    Well, I don't think it's working for me :(

    Could you be more specific please?! Maybe one of us can help you.;)
    Okay, just found your respond. Stressed out, is this the reason why you can not stop? The only thing to do is to tackle the things which get you stressed. Maybe take a step back and take it a little bit easier. The effect of the champix can take a while as well. Try not to give in now. If the stress is getting too much to you, than maybe it was the wrong time to quit. Is there some time in the future, when you will have less stress. Just think over your options. Good luck!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 36 Siska010


    connewitz wrote: »
    Could you be more specific please?! Maybe one of us can help you.;)
    Okay, just found your respond. Stressed out, is this the reason why you can not stop? The only thing to do is to tackle the things which get you stressed. Maybe take a step back and take it a little bit easier. The effect of the champix can take a while as well. Try not to give in now. If the stress is getting too much to you, than maybe it was the wrong time to quit. Is there some time in the future, when you will have less stress. Just think over your options. Good luck!

    Every time I try and quit smoking I just have zero willpower, my mind always wins. On the champix I had hoped my cravings would be less and I wouldn't feel the need to smoke (all the time). But so far it feels it has only given me mad dreams, and nothing else. I understand it won't help me with willpower, but I really thoughts the cravings would be more easy to deal with. I am the worst of the worst, and I admit that, but I just wish I could win this fight. I feel like a complete faillure.

    Even cutting down is a friggin' battle of wills with myself. It shouldn't be this hard. I should just be able to say, that's it, I'm done!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭Pal


    Siska010 wrote: »
    Im in week 3 now, I passed my quit day days ago. I have no problems lighting up a smoke. .

    I'm on Champix too and stopped on day 11 (Last Sunday).

    I understood that you stay stopped after the quit day. :confused:

    What you mean 'no problems lighting up' ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 Siska010


    Pal wrote: »
    I'm on Champix too and stopped on day 11 (Last Sunday).

    I understood that you stay stopped after the quit day. :confused:

    What you mean 'no problems lighting up' ?

    Yeah you stay stopped if it works for you. I can stick on patches, chew gum and be on champix and still light up a smoke. Hence the 'no problems lighting up'. I'm doing well today though, I have found a new batch of will power and hopefully when my hubby comes home and I can say I haven't smoked :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭mrswalton


    Siska,

    I have given up a couple of times, on my third/fourth proper attempt at the moment, and i'll do it eventually, so maybe i'm not the best to advise but let me share a few things with you.

    My first attempt, was with the help of a stopping smoking book by Nicola Willis, she had some great advice, talks you through day 1, day 2, day three etc. Takes you on baby steps. For example - Day 1 can be a great buzz, feeling proud etc. Day 3 it hits you and you feel like your grieving a friend, but she keeps explaining if you get over these milestones you can do it. After a good couple of weeks of not smoking, you do start to think about it less, and the longer your off them the less you think about it. She recommends treating yourself after various milestones, one tip that really helped me was putting the money you would spend on cigs in a jar. If you are a pack a day you put €9 in a jar every day for the first week.

    Get through today and put your money in a jar, keep it where you'll see it. Then make a list of 5 things you could spend your €63 on!

    I became pregnant shortly after giving them up so it was easy to stay off them. When my beautiful daughter was 6 mnths old the pressure of new motherhood just got the better of me and I had just one. (This is my biggest problem....I CANNOT HAVE JUST ONE ... It always leads me back on them)

    Nicola Willis also advocates using whatever crutches are available to you. Patches, gum etc.

    It isn't easy, but once your through the first couple of weeks the worst is over. Then its mostly a case of ensuring you don't give in to the 'just the one' gremlin.

    Let your immediate family know, and if they will be understanding while you struggle through the next couple of weeks it will help.

    The freedom i felt when i was off them mostly outweighed the odd craving.

    Good luck, today is day 1 get to day 5 and your laughing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 405 ✭✭connewitz


    mrswalton wrote: »
    Siska,

    When my beautiful daughter was 6 mnths old the pressure of new motherhood just got the better of me and I had just one. (This is my biggest problem....I CANNOT HAVE JUST ONE ... It always leads me back on them)

    That is exactly the problem ....! Don`t have "just" one. A lot of us failed in the past by thinking like this. Lets have just one, 2morrow I stop again. IT DOES NOT WORK!!! We are addicts and we have to admit this to ourself! It is like being an alcoholic, once off the drink, no more alcohol in any form or you are back to square one.
    We should be proud of every minute, hour, day, week, month and year without a smoke. It is a lifelong battle and we have to stick it out every day again. It is getting easier so, but the temptations have still to be warded off!;);)


  • Registered Users Posts: 405 ✭✭connewitz


    Siska010 wrote: »
    Every time I try and quit smoking I just have zero willpower, my mind always wins. On the champix I had hoped my cravings would be less and I wouldn't feel the need to smoke (all the time). But so far it feels it has only given me mad dreams, and nothing else. I understand it won't help me with willpower, but I really thoughts the cravings would be more easy to deal with. I am the worst of the worst, and I admit that, but I just wish I could win this fight. I feel like a complete faillure.

    Even cutting down is a friggin' battle of wills with myself. It shouldn't be this hard. I should just be able to say, that's it, I'm done!

    Mrs. Walton is right! Reward yourself with the money you save! We had girls here on the thread who bought a pair of shoes or boots they could not effort before. I booked holidays to Austria from my saving money. Without it I would have not been able to visit my daughter in Austria! There a millions of reasons why to quit smoking. If you can not get your head around the health reasons, maybe the money you save will help you in this battle! And YES, it needs your will power as well. Every day you go without a cigarette makes you a stronger person. Take it minute by minute, day by day and so on. YOU CAN DO IT!!! THERE IS NOTHING STANDING IN YOUR WAY-ONLY YOURSELF!!!:D:D:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 Siska010


    connewitz wrote: »
    Mrs. Walton is right! Reward yourself with the money you save! We had girls here on the thread who bought a pair of shoes or boots they could not effort before. I booked holidays to Austria from my saving money. Without it I would have not been able to visit my daughter in Austria! There a millions of reasons why to quit smoking. If you can not get your head around the health reasons, maybe the money you save will help you in this battle! And YES, it needs your will power as well. Every day you go without a cigarette makes you a stronger person. Take it minute by minute, day by day and so on. YOU CAN DO IT!!! THERE IS NOTHING STANDING IN YOUR WAY-ONLY YOURSELF!!!:D:D:D

    My gosh you're positive :D haha

    Ughh, well I am the first one to admit I have a serious problem. I will use today as a day where I keep telling myself how big my problem actually is. Tomorrow is a new day and I will go for it.

    Today kinda sucked :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 405 ✭✭connewitz


    Siska010 wrote: »
    My gosh you're positive :D haha

    Kind of have to be. Unemployed since nearly 5 years, in dire financial situation, had a stroke in 2010 (and still problems with numbers and memory), but if I would give in to all of this, I would be either dead or chronic depressed!:eek: I just keep on going and make the best out of everything, what gets thrown at me. This is what I meant - we are the only ones who stand in our way to change things!:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 207 ✭✭tmabr


    day 3 and going well, mornings are hard but still cutting way down - down to about 13/14 a day from 20. very happy at that rate i should be off them next week. mad unusual dreams last night - not a problem:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 Siska010


    connewitz wrote: »
    Kind of have to be. Unemployed since nearly 5 years, in dire financial situation, had a stroke in 2010 (and still problems with numbers and memory), but if I would give in to all of this, I would be either dead or chronic depressed!:eek: I just keep on going and make the best out of everything, what gets thrown at me. This is what I meant - we are the only ones who stand in our way to change things!:)

    Well, I think its great you can stay positive :)

    Today is the day for me, I still haven't smoked, I know its early but I have a little one so I have been up for a while now. Mornings are my downfall, I would have a coffee and easily 3 to 5 smokes within an hour. I changed my routine this morning, grabbed a coffee and sat somewhere else. Sounds silly maybe, but it's a change from climbing in the window with my coffee and a smoke. I keep telling myself no. My mind is telling me one wouldn't hurt, but I know it will.
    I just pray I have the strength to get through the day without touching the smokes. Part of my problem is boredom, and with the little one in bed and me not having anything to clean in the house, it's not easy.

    @Tmabr, good stuff :) Keep it up! We can do it!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭mrswalton


    Tmbr - Its a really good idea to pick a specific day that you call quit day. Maybe even the end of next week. Keep taking the champix and by the middle of next week you'll find yourself looking forward to quit day. Don't bring it forward stick to the planned quit day, and the day before you'll find yourself getting annoyed each time you smoke and looking forward to the day.

    It makes quit day feel great, but watch out for day 3 or four when you feel like your missing a friend, its a friend thats making you ill.

    The hardest bit is not so much you want to smoke, but the times you were so used to smoke feel funny. Just like saskia, sitting in the window with coffee, she did the right thing and did it differentl

    For me it was going out to let the chickens out in the morning, i would automatically reach for my bag. I got OH to let them out for a couple of weeks and by the time i was doing it again i had forgotton the habit.

    Saskia, do you have cigs in your house? You will make it harder to resist if they are in the house. If you really mean it today, break them up, pour ketchup on them and bin them, then promise yourself that you wont smoke for at least the length of time that pack would have lasted you.(That way you wont feel you've wasted the money because they would have been gone anyway) Then if you've lasted the day, why not try another day tomorrow.

    Good luck.

    Anyone else want to share their planned quit day? I wouldn't mind linking up with whoever so we have a bit of friendly competition. I was thinking about Saturday, looking forward to that feeling of freedom again already.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19 lil missy


    Hi all
    Ive decided Sunday is quit day :) that will be day 10 on Champix . Ive cut down a good bit but still enjoy my smoke , I find half way through it though that ive had enough of it if you know what i mean like when you have few one after the other that sicky feeling .


  • Registered Users Posts: 207 ✭✭tmabr


    good advice mrswalton - thank you
    my quit day is thursday, day 10, im on day 4 now - 2 tabs today. getting a few mood swings now but not too bad. i smoked 10 yesterday (usually 20). i think thats huge progress and hope im not trying too hard and i might just flip out and lose it.
    ive found quiting the inbetween smokes easy enough, the hard ones are morning tea and after meals. im just trying to delay them now- wait 5 or 10 minutes instead of rushing out for a smoke.
    over-all happy enough. cheers


  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭mrswalton


    Lil Missy, i'm exactly the same, im a stubber outer and keep for later (bluuuch)
    and one cig is getting stubbed out about 4 times now instead of twice. It is vile really.

    Well done tmbr, its those fixed times that are the hardest (after morning coffee, after dinner, letting the chickens out!) It might be a good idea to plan a something nice straight after instead.

    Run a really nice smelly bath during breakfast and jump into in for 10 mins (or half an hour if you can) instead of hanging out the back door belching smoke.

    But once you break the habit (not the addiction, just the habit) after a couple of weeks you will find that it will be mid morning and you havn't even thought about cigs. Thats a great feeling. Then give yourself a little treat.

    Make a list of silly little treats that you can use for these time. (preferably not food)

    What treats can you think of?

    Manicure/pedicure.
    Smelly bath
    Sweep the kitchen (okay i know i'm odd)

    Good luck.


  • Registered Users Posts: 207 ✭✭tmabr


    mrswalton wrote: »
    Lil Missy, i'm exactly the same, im a stubber outer and keep for later (bluuuch)
    and one cig is getting stubbed out about 4 times now instead of twice. It is vile really.

    Well done tmbr, its those fixed times that are the hardest (after morning coffee, after dinner, letting the chickens out!) It might be a good idea to plan a something nice straight after instead.

    Run a really nice smelly bath during breakfast and jump into in for 10 mins (or half an hour if you can) instead of hanging out the back door belching smoke.

    But once you break the habit (not the addiction, just the habit) after a couple of weeks you will find that it will be mid morning and you havn't even thought about cigs. Thats a great feeling. Then give yourself a little treat.

    Make a list of silly little treats that you can use for these time. (preferably not food)

    What treats can you think of?

    Manicure/pedicure.
    Smelly bath
    Sweep the kitchen (okay i know i'm odd)

    Good luck.

    lol im in stitches here, im a man :) bath:)manicure:)sweep:) ????
    ill walk the dog , hows that ?
    sorry for laughing i know you,re helping me and its appreciated


  • Registered Users Posts: 12 TOMTAC


    Hi all, I have 10 days left of the 3 mth tablet course and now I'm starting to think will the craving for a cigarette come back when I come off the tablets.
    I have read , and reread, all the posts to this board as part of my endevour to give up smoking, and the following thoughts are what I have identified as the blueprint for me.
    I expect the thought 'that it would be nice to have a smoke now' will constantly enter my mind...maybe for years to come... but I expect to handle that as I'm handling it now.....A few deep breaths, another sucky sweet, and a quick calculation in my head as to how much money has not been spent since my last smoke. ( I see a huge difference between the 'craving' for a smoke and the 'thought' of a smoke. The former is what had me hooked...the addiction to nicotine..that could only be satisfied by a smoke. In my case Champix has canceled that out compleatly, as indeed it has done for an awful lot of contributors to this board. The 'thought' of a smoke, I think, is the habit, and to kick this some willpower will be required. The amount of willpower can be reduced by supplementing some other defences such as sucky sweets, taking a drink of water, breathing exercises, positive thinking (eg £ saved), etc. Of course, a great source of strenght and resolve is the knowledge that I am not alone in this mighty endevour and so it is my intention to constantly refer to this board as other peoples' success will bolster me.
    For the record, I am 63 years old, have been smoking since I was 18, never tried to give them up before, for the last number of years smoked about 35 cigarettes a day and am giving them up now because my Dr. told me, at my last medical,'' to give them up and you will prolong your life''.


  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭mrswalton


    Oh Tomtac,

    Good for you, doing so well. Do not worry too much about coming off the Champix, I would be surprised if you experience real cravings. Like you say there is a difference between the addiction/craving and the fancy one thought/habit.

    I'll tell you some more of my experience, the last time i gave them up was last May, i only took the Champix for about two weeks after quit day because i felt they wrecked my head a little, but once i had broken the habit (which only took that couple of weeks) i came off them and stayed off them with no cravings for 4 months.

    In September i went to a music festival, and it was all so pleasant i gave in to the 'really fancy one now' and thought it was such a one off event...i can handle it. BIG MISTAKE!!!!

    To be honest, it tasted rotten, really not enjoyable but coming off the cigs with the Champix had been so easy, i didn't see the slippery slope. It turned into one a day for about a week and it took about a week for it to taste 'nice' again. It took a further two weeks before i was back on 15 - 20 a day.

    So a couple of points for you:

    1. I believe the 'craving' is as a result of the initial withdrawal from nicotine. This happens in the first couple of weeks.

    2. Champix is so much easier that 'cold turkey' that it is easy to kid yourself that just one will be okay.

    3. My GP told me that the people who complete the 3 month course of Champix have a far better rate of staying off the cigs for good.

    And most importantly of all, (and i'm talking to myself here too)

    NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU THINK YOU CAN HAVE JUST ONE....IT DOESN'T WORK, YOU CAN'T!!!!!!!




    tmabr::) I had a feeling you weren't a girl, but they were my list of nice things and i thought at the time i was writing it .....surely everyone likes a soak in the bath.;)

    I have to say, I like to think of treats that put me in places that i can't smoke.

    Like tomorrow i'm going to take my little girl car boot saleing, she loves it and i won't be able to smoke the whole time i'm out.

    Sorry for going on!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 12 TOMTAC


    Thank you MRSWALTON for your reply. I wont be concerned now with the finishing up of the tablet course and I do understand the huge danger of the 'stinking thinking' that says 'one wont do any harm'. The practicing alchololic thinks that its the 10th or 12th drinks that gets him drunk....the recovering alchoholic knows that its the first one that does. (Under no circumstances should anyone reading this consider it a comparison between a smoking and a drinking addiction, and sincere apologies to anybody who might take offence).
    Best of luck to you all..another day done!


  • Registered Users Posts: 405 ✭✭connewitz


    TOMTAC wrote: »
    For the record, I am 63 years old, have been smoking since I was 18, never tried to give them up before, for the last number of years smoked about 35 cigarettes a day and am giving them up now because my Dr. told me, at my last medical,'' to give them up and you will prolong your life''.

    Kudos to you! Well done!
    Did you notice as you read through the posts that you are not the oldest one here? DonnieL was over 70 years old as he stopped. I am still in contact with him and he is doing very well. Is now 3 years of the smokes already!
    You can do it as well!!! Good luck and all the best!:D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭mrswalton


    Glad to be of any help TOMTAC. I think it is great that after smoking for so long you decided to tackle it at such a young age;) You sound like you have thought it through really well, and of course you've made the right as well as brave decision. I hope the 'fancy one' thoughts are few and far between for you.

    Conniewitz, you sound like a fairly strong and thoughtful person yourself. Thanks too for your words of encouragement.:)

    Day 2 done for me!!!:D Kept busy, not eaten too much to compensate. Doing well so far. Happy days!!!!


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