2018 Irish Gigs (Rumours & Confirmed Events)

rubadub wrote: »

I think so, you have to remember the last time was Slane, this would not have even been considered an option for lots of older fans. A lot of others would rule out slane too, just look at the amount of people you see saying "gig was great, but jaysus, never again -NEVER" in almost all slane threads!

Not a great portion this year tbf, This coming from a previous naysayer I didn't return till this year didn't buy tickets when they initially went on sale even but I had braced myself for what comes with it and with that approach would have none of the hesitation now going back there that I once had if an act of severe interest to me played there in fact it's certainly preferable than the Aviva or Croker.

On the older heads point found a strong number at GnR were ones that had also attended the show in '92

I've said "never again" about Slane myself before but couldn't resist Guns n Roses. A few days before the gig we were dreading the journey in and out so we booked the campsite for the weekend, best decision we ever made. Met up with a few friends and had a few beers, only had to walk a few hundred yards down the road to the castle. After the show had another few beers and then called it a night, by the sounds of it we were asleep in the tent when others were still stuck in buses trying to get out of Slane. I'd go back to Slane in a heartbeat if it was a band I liked. (So Billie Joe Armstrong, if you're reading this.......)

PTH2009 wrote: »

https://www.joe.ie/music/international-artists-tax-ireland-595749

Hopefully this law doesent come in

Blown out of proportion for clicks which is typical of them.

If this affected the entire scope of gigs then it would paralyze smaller bands which can't be allowed happen.

I was at Green Day wasn't sold out even though no tickets were showing on TM for weeks suggesting it was (underestimated tickets they could flog on Seatwave perhaps?). Say in around 10 thousand attended with tickets around €60 that's 600k you'd want to sell a bust load of merch to even hit 1m before overheads are even deducted so why they are in a conversation about going away with 30m plus is a bit much and that's just using them as an example.

If this happened for the major scale events this wouldn't deter the big mainstream acts at all as suggested the reality is the cost as usual will be lobbed on the punter.

I think Take That (with all 5 members) could do Aviva or Croke Park for 25th anniversary

Furious-Red wrote: »

I can just seeing it being a Radio 1 Big Weekend/Oxegen/TITP style line up

Same, even the name suggests that.

BBC just taking advantage of the fallow year, but to be fair the market is open. The Big Weekend is just 1 city with tickets (free ??) to residents of that city only.

They wouldn't do any Irish weekend, other than Belfast, if they were doing a multitude of venues. That said, Derry was chosen a few years ago.

Shedite27 wrote: »

Arcade Fire in the Three Arena next April...



"In the round" means that the crowd can be on all 4 sides of the stage. Be interesting how it'll work in the Three.

A random addition by me but in 2009 Britney Spears came here on her Circus tour and her stage setup consisted of three circular stages, a main stage and two side stages all connected by runways. Back then, they placed the stages in the standing area and left the traditional 'stage wall' covered. They then placed a lower section of tiered seating there, with additional standing around the three stages. There are videos of YouTube that show it from those various angles and it seemed to work quite well.

Personally, I feel that the 3Arena is a poorly planned arena. When being renovated in 2007-2008, its design should have been changed to that of a traditional arena. Yes, the 'intimacy' of the venue is a positive, but it defeats the purpose of the arena, which includes to attract huge music names.

In recent years, the country has missed out on many arena shows by huge names due to the limited space of the 3Arena. Many acts bypassed the arena including Katy Perry (2014 and 2018), Lady Gaga (2017) and Madonna (2015/2016), as the 'cone shape' of the arena is not deep enough to accommodate ambitious stages. Frequently, acts have to reduce or modify their setup to fit into the arena, including Ariana Grande (2017) and Lady Gaga (2014), altering the show and often removing entire parts. While some may say that this is just me complaining as a pop fan, I'm sure there are countless examples of other acts who have been limited by the size of the venue.

To provide for both intimate acts and huge productions, I believe we need a smaller venue in a similar vein to the 3Arena and a larger one designed like the O2, the MEN Arena and other worldwide stadiums.

PTH2009 wrote: »

Don't think Dublin needs any other massive arena but I get where were coming from with the way the 3arena is designed. They should of made it a hockey style arena which is capable of staging any type of event. Prob be murdered for suggesting this but id get rid of the Olympia and build a 8000 seater arena too attract mid size acts

The Hydro in Glasgow is similar too the 3arena but is designed in a way that can incorporate In the round shows perfectly even though it's not a hockey style arena. It has larger standing area

Yeah, I should've worded it better but I meant the option as a replacement to the 3Arena, not a supplementary thing. The Ericsson Globe is another example of a venue that appears slightly more intimate than traditional venues but has adequate space and capacity. Don't understand why we couldn't have followed either the O2 London or the Hydro etc when renovating the Point!

3 to be confirmed concerts have been booked in the RDS Arena for next summer

PTH2009 wrote: »

Don't think Dublin needs any other massive arena but I get where were coming from with the way the 3arena is designed. They should of made it a hockey style arena which is capable of staging any type of event. Prob be murdered for suggesting this but id get rid of the Olympia and build a 8000 seater arena too attract mid size acts

Mid size acts are playing the Olympia anyway! They have a hockey area in Belfast it gets the odd show over the years that can't be done in Dublin but for the most part not much in the grand scheme of things a mid size venue would be more in the region of 3500-5000 over that can play the 3.O2 anyway scaled back if they have to.

PTH2009 wrote: »

When is the redevelopment there happening??

late 2018/2019

Shedite27 wrote: »

I love the shape of the Three, and a lot of music acts do to, you always hear bands commenting on how it's just a wall of fans when they look out.

I agree, I'm quite fond of the intimacy of the 3Arena. If the venue was unable to attract huge music names, then I would perhaps make a point of the size. Yet it doesn't seem to have that problem, and tends to be among the busier arenas in Europe.

Shedite27 wrote: »

Did Katy Perry, Madonna and Gaga all skip Ireland because of the shape of the Three? Thought they played the Aviva instead and didn't use 360 there anyway. If bands really want to play the Three with a 360 gig they'll find a way (see Muse, U2)

They don't use in-the-round I believe, but they have large elaborate stages and B-stages. Though is it speculative that they skipped the 3Arena because of its size?

I have heard that it has been for the case for Metallica to repeatedly skip the 3Arena for that reason. They play in-the-round and haven't played Dublin since 2009, and an indoor gig here since the 90s.

However it can be done. The Jonas Brothers in 2009 played an in-the-round show at the (then) O2. Probably would work well in the case of Arcade Fire, who I'd imagine would prefer the smaller size of the 3Arena.

SecretsOfEarth wrote: »

Personally, I feel that the 3Arena is a poorly planned arena. When being renovated in 2007-2008, its design should have been changed to that of a traditional arena. Yes, the 'intimacy' of the venue is a positive, but it defeats the purpose of the arena, which includes to attract huge music names.

In recent years, the country has missed out on many arena shows by huge names due to the limited space of the 3Arena. Many acts bypassed the arena including Katy Perry (2014 and 2018), Lady Gaga (2017) and Madonna (2015/2016), as the 'cone shape' of the arena is not deep enough to accommodate ambitious stages. Frequently, acts have to reduce or modify their setup to fit into the arena, including Ariana Grande (2017) and Lady Gaga (2014), altering the show and often removing entire parts. While some may say that this is just me complaining as a pop fan, I'm sure there are countless examples of other acts who have been limited by the size of the venue.

To provide for both intimate acts and huge productions, I believe we need a smaller venue in a similar vein to the 3Arena and a larger one designed like the O2, the MEN Arena and other worldwide stadiums.

Before blaming them for lazy planning, bear in mind that we have very restrictive planning regulations in this country and the Point Depot is a protected structure. You couldn't fundamentally alter the shape of it and certain elements of the exterior had to be maintained. In fact, what they achieved in terms of re-engineering the building was astonishing.

It is always way more challenging to build from a brownfield site, particularly one which has a 'listing'. But Mr.Crosbie chose to go with that at the outset and to be fair he turned a run down dump into a venue which helps Dublin attract its fair share of acts. There wasn't a queue of people looking to build an 8k+ indoor venue in the city centre back in 1988, when to be frank we didn't have an arse in our trousers.