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Eire's Territorial Claim

  • 02-10-2013 12:06pm
    #1
    first doyle
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 42 ✭


    Would Eire's territorial claim over northern Ireland have made much of a difference had Fianna Fail ran candidates in the north aswel as the south?

    And why didn't Fianna Fail form under an All Ireland party if they were so concerned about ending partition?


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  • #2
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 90,657 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    FF had a majority in the 26 counties. In a 32 county Ireland they would have lost that majority and the Unionists would have had the balance of power.

    Look at the politics of Israel today to see the sort of things that leads to.


  • #3
    dubhthach
    Registered Users Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭dubhthach


    As a note eire ≠ Éire -- fada's are important people! (N.B. eire = burden/encumbrance)


  • #4
    tac foley
    Registered Users Posts: 5,504 ✭✭✭tac foley


    As with Seán - male person's forename, as commonly spelled, sean [old].

    tac


  • #5
    riffmongous
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,617 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Is there a way to write fadas out for people who don't have Irish keyboards and don't want to change the keyboard settings or say for a url? Like how in german you can write 'ö' as 'oe'


  • #6
    tac foley
    Registered Users Posts: 5,504 ✭✭✭tac foley


    Well, on my Japanese keyboard, I press the Alt Gr key and then the letter, and behold, it then gets its fada. Like this - á é í ó ú

    No idea what you'd do with a Western keyboard, though.

    tac


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  • #7
    riffmongous
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,617 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Well that used to work on the keyboard I used in Ireland, but now I only use German keyboards where it doesn't work


  • #8
    Cork boy 55
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Cork boy 55


    click on program-accessorizes-character map
    Everything is there


    é


  • #9
    riffmongous
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,617 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    That works alright.

    But it still doesn't answer all of the original question concerning urls.. I am guessing not as sinn féin's website is sinnfein.ie, contrast with that of the FPÖ, fpoe.at.

    Apologies for dragging this thread so far off topic :o

    Perhaps it could even been split out and moved to the Irish language forum?


  • #10
    dubhthach
    Registered Users Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭dubhthach


    riffmongous wrote: »
    That works alright.

    But it still doesn't answer all of the original question concerning urls.. I am guessing not as sinn féin's website is sinnfein.ie, contrast with that of the FPÖ, fpoe.at.

    Apologies for dragging this thread so far off topic :o

    Perhaps it could even been split out and moved to the Irish language forum?

    At the moment .ie doesn't support internationalised URL's (eg. with fada's) from what I've heard its in the works at some stage. Once that happens it would be valid to register domains such as sinnféin.ie etc

    Of course in Dutch they dont use acute accents they just double the vowels, result ee in dutch is pronunced like é in Irish (and not like ee in English -- Great Vowel Shift in English after 15th century)


  • #11
    Seanbass
    Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Seanbass


    riffmongous wrote: »
    Is there a way to write fadas out for people who don't have Irish keyboards and don't want to change the keyboard settings or say for a url? Like how in german you can write 'ö' as 'oe'

    as a Seán I know this pain :P

    hold Ctrl + Alt and whatever letter you choose


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  • #12
    tac foley
    Registered Users Posts: 5,504 ✭✭✭tac foley


    Works for me on either of my Western lap-tops....thank you! Interesting that it only works, as it should, on vowels.

    tac, not tác


  • #13
    jonniebgood1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,577 ✭✭✭jonniebgood1


    tac foley wrote: »
    tác

    I knew it...


  • #14
    Neutronale
    Registered Users Posts: 429 ✭✭Neutronale


    dubhthach wrote: »
    As a note eire ≠ Éire -- fada's are important people! (N.B. eire = burden/encumbrance)

    Also important to add that Éire means Ireland and refers to the whole country and not just the 26 counties.


  • #15
    dubhthach
    Registered Users Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭dubhthach


    Neutronale wrote: »
    Also important to add that Éire means Ireland and refers to the whole country and not just the 26 counties.

    I would have thought it was obvious after Ireland = (é)ire+land


  • #16
    riffmongous
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,617 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Neutronale wrote: »
    Also important to add that Éire means Ireland and refers to the whole country and not just the 26 counties.

    You mean it can refer to both right?


  • #17
    tac foley
    Registered Users Posts: 5,504 ✭✭✭tac foley


    riffmongous wrote: »
    You mean it can refer to both right?

    Poetic useage of the name Éire predates the partition of Ireland.

    tac


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