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Is Organised Child Trafficking in America for Real?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 81,516 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Well no not if you're refusing to look at the article.


  • Registered Users Posts: 692 ✭✭✭Spencerfreeman


    Overheal wrote: »
    Well no not if you're refusing to look at the article.

    I thought it was better if compromising info was preserved.

    Post it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 692 ✭✭✭Spencerfreeman


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    I got my money on Snopes ;)

    Just to add, as someone familiar with betting, it's always best to establish the exact parameters of the bet you're placing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,516 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I thought it was better if compromising info was preserved.

    Post it.

    No.


  • Registered Users Posts: 692 ✭✭✭Spencerfreeman


    Overheal wrote: »
    No.

    ok.

    Do you concede that I have shown that there was a conspiracy of silence then?

    Sorry that is a bit unfair when I haven't posted the links to back it up yet.
    But I can.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 81,516 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Do you concede that I have shown that there was a conspiracy of silence then?

    I would review what the news is reporting on the matter.


  • Registered Users Posts: 692 ✭✭✭Spencerfreeman


    Overheal wrote: »
    I would review what the news is reporting on the matter.

    I would recommend checking out primary documents.
    Look at the FBI Twitter feed on The Finders.
    I think they're throwing what is a CIA sub group on the fire.
    I'll send you a link if you can't find it.

    I warn you it's a real surprise.
    I haven't posted any more on this subject because it takes a mental toll on me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 692 ✭✭✭Spencerfreeman


    The Finders

    It's not directly connected to the three dead State Senators which this thread is about nor a conspiracy theory, like the thread, but I'm going to add the link here.

    https://vault.fbi.gov/the-finders/the-finders-part-01-of-01/view?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

    Representative Tom Lewis of Florida elaborated. “Could our own government have something to do with this Finders organization and turned their backs on these children? That’s what all the evidence points to.” He went on. “And there is a lot of evidence. I can tell you this: we’ve got a lot of people scrambling, and that wouldn’t be happening if there was nothing here.”


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    404


  • Registered Users Posts: 692 ✭✭✭Spencerfreeman


    Still opening for me.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Maybe you've the full URL. If there's a series of dots in the middle, it's not one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 692 ✭✭✭Spencerfreeman


    How dat?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Because a chunk of the URL is missing?


  • Registered Users Posts: 692 ✭✭✭Spencerfreeman


    Sorry, thought it was sorted, will try again.

    K now?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Yeah. A 324-page PDF, some of which is typed, some handwritten, and that has lots of redactions. What, exactly, are we supposed to be seeing?! Please be specific.
    Representative Tom Lewis of Florida elaborated. “Could our own government have something to do with this Finders organization and turned their backs on these children? That’s what all the evidence points to.” He went on. “And there is a lot of evidence. I can tell you this: we’ve got a lot of people scrambling, and that wouldn’t be happening if there was nothing here.”

    ...is exactly the sort of thing Trumpians and conspiracy theorists say about Pizzagate...


  • Registered Users Posts: 692 ✭✭✭Spencerfreeman


    Yeah. A 324-page PDF, some of which is typed, some handwritten, and that has lots of redactions. What, exactly, are we supposed to be seeing?! Please be specific.


    ...is exactly the sort of thing Trumpians and conspiracy theorists say about
    Pizzagate...

    I'm reading it and filling in some redactions as it happens.

    Specifically; You will see collusion between the paedo and satanic worship group called "The Finders" and the CIA.

    You are comparing that comment by the Congressman to Trumpians, conspiracies and pizzagate?
    He didn't last much longer in Congress after making it.

    I put it up for people to read. What do you make of it?

    I've figured out some of the key names if you find some that you'd like to know.


  • Registered Users Posts: 692 ✭✭✭Spencerfreeman


    Sorry, I used the word collusion. Far too mild. It was run by the CIA.

    If you get to p155 where a name is redacted that takes military flights out of Andrews Airbase, it's Marion David Pettie, leader of the Finders and a CIA operative.
    A lot of this information was already available but now what was supposed can be confirmed and lots more.
    Lots more, plenty of similarities with Epstein.


  • Registered Users Posts: 692 ✭✭✭Spencerfreeman


    To put a bit of meat on the bones as it were, Marion Pettie;

    Pettie began his career with assorted OSS contacts, served as a chauffeur to General Ira Eaker, became a protege of Charles Marsh (an intimate of FDR and LBJ who ran his own private intelligence network), and was trained in counterintelligence in Baltimore and Frankfurt, Germany. His wife worked for the CIA, and Pettie himself was run by Col. Leonard N. Weigner (whose September 1990 Washington Post obituary confirms that his career was spent in air force intelligence and the CIA).


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,743 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    To put a bit of meat on the bones as it were, Marion Pettie;

    Pettie began his career with assorted OSS contacts, served as a chauffeur to General Ira Eaker, became a protege of Charles Marsh (an intimate of FDR and LBJ who ran his own private intelligence network), and was trained in counterintelligence in Baltimore and Frankfurt, Germany. His wife worked for the CIA, and Pettie himself was run by Col. Leonard N. Weigner (whose September 1990 Washington Post obituary confirms that his career was spent in air force intelligence and the CIA).

    You are claiming the Central Intelligence Agency of the US traffics children for abuse?


  • Registered Users Posts: 692 ✭✭✭Spencerfreeman


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    You are claiming the Central Intelligence Agency of the US traffics children for abuse?

    Trafficked.
    I am claiming such a thing.

    (i'm not correcting your spelling Dohnjoe)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,743 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Trafficked.
    I am claiming such a thing.

    Okay, and from when to when?

    And for what purpose?


  • Registered Users Posts: 692 ✭✭✭Spencerfreeman


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Okay, and from when to when?

    And for what purpose?

    In this case until 1987 at least.

    Satanic Ritualised Child Sex abuse.

    I can't give you the start date here.

    "The Finders" operation began in 1971


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,743 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    In this case until 1987 at least.

    Satanic Ritualised Child Sex abuse.

    I can't give you the start date here.

    Isn't this just pizzagate, but "in the past"


  • Registered Users Posts: 692 ✭✭✭Spencerfreeman


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Isn't this just pizzagate, but "in the past"

    Maybe indicating that Pizzagate might not be complete shyte??


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,743 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Maybe indicating that Pizzagate might not be complete shyte??

    Go on..


  • Registered Users Posts: 692 ✭✭✭Spencerfreeman


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Go on..

    lol, did you read any of the FBI release yet?


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,743 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    lol, did you read any of the FBI release yet?

    Meh, too long, not gonna bother


  • Registered Users Posts: 692 ✭✭✭Spencerfreeman


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Meh, too long, not gonna bother

    Since it's you...
    I give you p212 "chips in childrens heads" to get you going.

    Don't come back with the "unsubstantiated" bit, I know.


  • Registered Users Posts: 692 ✭✭✭Spencerfreeman


    I'll have pizzagate one for you when you get back.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,434 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    lol, did you read any of the FBI release yet?

    Spencer, you keep dangling info and alluding to connections.
    I don't know if it's in the hope of having people read the file and broadcast their own conclusion? But I'm hard pushed.

    DJ has already alluded to the Pizzagate similarities, but could you lay out what you think the conspiracy here is?
    Lay out what your belief is?

    I'm not saying no it's never happened, because it's quite difficult to tease out exactly what you are claiming has happened.

    Overheal has posted a semi-confirming story of an elected official trafficking children for adoption.
    But that seems to be quite different to the satanic child abuse you are claiming.
    What's your theory? What are the timelines, what are you basing it on?
    Anything apart from the finders document?


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