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19-09-2009, 16:36   #16
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a documentary that may or may not raise a few eyebrows. a documentary set for bbc 2. de valera "ireland's hated hero". the usual heads contribute

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Part 6
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Part 7
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Golly didn't RTÉ People have very Graaa-nd accents then

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19-09-2009, 16:56   #17
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many will remember this RTÉ documentary about 1916 and General Maxwell "The man who lost Ireland". The significance of this documentary, or the significance RTÉ made about this project was that it talks about the court martials in detail eg - William Wylie's account that The Countess pleaded for mercy on the basis that she is a woman

By the way, is this the same Willliam Wylie who became an Irish Judge??? or related to a William Wylie (well renowned lawyer in the area of land/property law?) if so, how did the country not turn against him when emotions & attitudes change?

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20-09-2009, 23:17   #18
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Yes walrus I think it is the same man. I think there's probably a class explanation for why the country didn't turn against him, he would have been quite protected or insulated by other upper/middle class types and allowed to prosper in a way that others in different professions would not. btw I'm not a fan of Markievicz but I think his account of her breakdown in court goes against everything she said and did throughout her life. I'm fairly sure he was a well known misogynist though so that would have been as good a reason as any to lie.
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a couple of old clips from the Big Fella himself. Shame we will never get to hear his voice.


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"No one can insult our Flag"

Waterford County Museum's website seems to be head and shoulders above any other county museum. It is very well worth having a look at.

In particular, I love this clip from 11 November 1920 of two local IRA men forced to hold the Union Jack and march through Waterford by the Auxies after they had torn it down. It was done as a propaganda exercise by the British for showing in British cinemas during the war. Watch at the back of the Auxies there is a tall Black and Tan walking behind them with a pistol in his hand and a big smile:

http://www.waterfordcountymuseum.org...y/article/118/

You have to click 'download the video footage".


I'm sure you'll find much more on that site.
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How do you embed a video into a thread?
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copy everything after v= in the youtube url then put it between [youtube] tags. If you don't get it quite right I'll edit it for you when I see it.
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Waterford County Museum's website seems to be head and shoulders above any other county museum. It is very well worth having a look at.

In particular, I love this clip from 11 November 1920 of two local IRA men forced to hold the Union Jack and march through Waterford by the Auxies after they had torn it down. It was done as a propaganda exercise by the British for showing in British cinemas during the war. Watch at the back of the Auxies there is a tall Black and Tan walking behind them with a pistol in his hand and a big smile:

http://www.waterfordcountymuseum.org...y/article/118/

You have to click 'download the video footage".


I'm sure you'll find much more on that site.
Very good Rebelheart. I remember reading how in Leitrim when a train driver refused to transport the Tans citing the Irish rail unions rules forbidding him to do so, the brits beat him up, stripped him naked and tied him to the front of the train in an act of humiliation and forced another driver at gunpoint to drive the train. The following day the officer commanding was shot dead on his way from church in revenge for it.
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25-10-2009, 21:09   #24
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The following is a film about Ann Devlin, done in 1984

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Part 6
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Part 7
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Part 8
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Part 9
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Part 10
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lowing is a clip of the irish army in the congo. as many will be aware, the congo was ireland's first mission as a member of the un peacekeeping. the irish army went through some severe conditions and political hostility (not to mention intitially being badly equiped) anyone who has/had a family member or knew someone in the army will know that the irish army is one of great pride and excellent distinction when serving in the un

as the congo was ireland's first port of call , i feel it merits to be here

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the forgotten ten

this is a documentary abut kevin barry and 9 other men who where executed during the war of independence and buried in mountjoy. as many will remember, their bodies were only removed from the jail 5 years ago.

this documentary looks at the hardship their families had to endure in order to get their bodies out of the jail. clearly, as sign of the times and shifting attitudes towards 1916-1922 in light of the government's preoccupation with the peace process.

members of the 6th btn 4th western brigade (athlone barracks) got the honour of acting as pallbearers from their original plot to the cars (other brigades were involved of course) i knew some of the lads. very proud day for them. i also remember the f*ckers in the Indo who had the gall to write sheer lies. (it was round this time i woke up to the notion of revisionists - i was only in my early teens then)

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25-10-2009, 23:58   #27
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clip from british pathe of roger casement's home coming
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british pathe for nelson's pillar (i doubt it had the dubliners singing along, but there you go)
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the next clip is in relation to jeremiah o'donovan rossa. one of the signifcance of this was Padraig Pearse's first public outing (all in military uniform, which would have got the castle tongues waging.It was here that Pearse told the mourners that "ireland unfree shall never be at peace" (the music i think is from the chieftains)
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here is a clip from thomas ashe's funeral. as many will be aware, collins gave the grave side speech. it is said, collins ripped up his speech after the guns were fired, and simply said that the noise from the guns was all that needed to be said....... . again, the people defied the castle by coming out in army uniform
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british pathe clip in relation to terance sweeney (ignore the music). i understand sweeney wrote a book about freedom or was it maccurtain who wrote it? anyone know?
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clips of thomas maccurtain's funeral
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funeral of cathal brugha
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shame the archives seem more concerned with funerals as oppose to clips of the men alive. then again, there was a war. they were on the run and hardly had time or safety to prance around to photo opportunities.
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this one is for the ladies, the wimen ah no seriously thou, honest to god. we seem to have completely forgotten one section of teh country when it comes to writting history. whether the subject/period of history is not agreeable to some, there is no doubt that women sacrificed just as much as the men. as many will know during the treaty debate markiveic, clarke, sweeney & cuman na mban, the women were extremely oppose to the treaty.as you also know, it was not just the men during any period of irish history who went on hunger strikes. as seen below, armagh prison is a case in point. Tim Pat Coogan describes in his work on the IRA the extrermely horrific and severe conditons he found when meeting some strikers in Armagh like mairead farrell (not we men don't have to worry about a certain time of the month)

this is Irish Women: political prisoners (about the north)
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This is women in the civil war. considering how parnell had difficulty with his sister's branch of the land league and how cumann na mban were hostile to the treaty, it's no wonder De Valera took such a hostile attitude towards women with the Constitution. Maiden homely women my ar*e, a clear indication of telling women, particularily strong minded women, where their place was.
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Irish women in the Labour Movement
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26-10-2009, 00:54   #29
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Irish Americans - The Jubilee Plot - Fenians in America - Assisination attempt of the monarchy and attempt to sabotage Parnell

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this is an Irish - Englsih language documentary made by RTÉ(2000) about the Kilmichael Ambush.One significant part of this documentary is the asertions made by Canadian Historian Peter Harte that amongst other things, the Auxies were robbed and hatched to death and we killed after surrender. Mr Harte raises issue over alledge inconsistencies with various reports made by Tom BArry. You decide

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