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DCM 2018 - Mentored Novice Thread
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roosterman71 wrote: »She thinks I'm crazy of course but I've convinced her the long runs would be only around 3 hours so I might just get away with it
Yes but there’s getting to where you are running and back again if not running from your house and shower and food after too
You might need to be prepared to be flexible the odd time. I’ve two young kids myself, the youngest is 2, and it’s just a case of more logistics at times. 0 -
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The Black Oil wrote: »Just to add to Damo and Skyblue's learning, there were a good few people in sick bay last year at various points, and fairly late on in the training too.
For now your main target should be to get the start line in good shape, consistency is your friend for this and for avoiding injury. Ever stretch a rubber band and it snaps against your skin? Training too fast might hit you back like that.
Never a truer word spoken, i got injured on the last long run before the taper, with 3 weeks to go it was major panic stations but thankfully i made it to the start line - the lesson is that getting to the start line is as challenging, if not more challenging, than getting to the finish line! It's a marathon and not a sprint you're training for, you'll be hearing this regularly
Welcome roosterman and congrats on the impending arrival. Lazare from last year's novices group will be able to let you in a bit on what to expect when the new arrival comes There's absolutely no doubt late July and onward will be a busy time for you and you'll find yourself pulled in many different directions but you'll also find that everyone is juggling real life with running so you'll get plenty of tips on how to make it work, you're already doing a lot of your training at lunchtime which is a great start. As the mid-week run gets a bit longer you may not be able to fit it in at lunch-time so it might be worth giving some thought to how you might fit that in. Your times are very impressive but make sure you're not racing every run you do - this is especially true if/when you start running with a group at lunchtime, make sure the paces suit you and you're not over-reaching every run as this is a fast track to injury and burn out. Have you thought about what plan you might follow? 0 -
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Roosterman, out of interest what sort of distances are you covering during your lunch time run? I work in Dublin city centre and can just about squeeze in a 10k run on my lunch break. Good to get a run like that out of the way!
Normally between 5 and 10k. Could push to 12 but that would be cheeky 0 -
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Just a quick question guys regarding the LSR, I went out last night and done 16.5k, I tried to keep an avg of 6.30 per k as it felt easy and slow. I know the saying that if it feels slow go slower. But as I don't have any goal specific time at the minute what sort of pace should I be looking to do the LSR
Hi rossi, good question! If you have a recent enough race time (for you I'd say your 10k time) you can use a calculator such as McMillan to get an idea of training paces? Or if you don't have a race time then use a time from a run where you know the distance and you really pushed yourself - a time trial of sorts. For those with no clue as to current paces then i'd suggest sign up to a race or do a park run in the next 6 weeks as a starting point.
Just a note for everyone as you mention goal time - you should be training to your current fitness or in other words your training paces should be based on current fitness and not on your goal time/fitness, let that pace come to you with increased fitness/endurance over time rather than you push yourself to train at it just yet.
16.5k is a great distance to be doing at this stage and it's great that you're keeping easy & slow in check as well, well done
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Im thinking of doing the DCM in Oct. When Do I have to register? Am I nuts??
Have run four half marathons in Dublin over last two years. I am running about 14-17 miles a week. Not in a running club.
Am I nuts? Is running a marathon worth it?
I think we all seem a little bit nuts to others
Is it worth it? It was worth it to me but only you can decide if it's something you think will be worth it for you. No doubt it takes a lot of commitment, the training is the hard part, the motivation has to be there as there will be times you will struggle.
Your weekly mileage is ok as a base and those 4 HMs will stand to you but the mileage will increase significantly, you will need to be in a position to give over more time to running. It's a decision only you can make. You should also discuss it with any significant other(s) who may also need to make sacrifices to support you in your goal.
With respect to registering i believe it usually sells out in around June/July but I'm open to correction.0 -
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Yes it does really work. And believe it or not, McMillan isn't even the most conservative pace calculator out there but it is the one that accompanies the Boards plan.I just inputted details on McMillan and even though I thought my long runs were snails pace, they are still at least 30 secs faster than what they are suggesting. I guess slow down?! Does it really work!? Seems mad.
There are lots of articles, like this one, on the subject. The marathon is just that, a marathon and not a sprint, you want to train smart, stay injury free, and build a strong aerobic base, the more easy miles you can run the better your endurance come race day. Running easy miles improves heart and lung function AND puts less stress on the ligaments and tendons that are vulnerable to injury at higher intensities. Believe it 0 -
Yes it does really work. And believe it or not, McMillan isn't even the most conservative pace calculator out there but it is the one that accompanies the Boards plan.
There are lots of articles, like this one, on the subject. The marathon is just that, a marathon and not a sprint, you want to train smart, stay injury free, and build a strong aerobic base, the more easy miles you can run the better your endurance come race day. Running easy miles improves heart and lung function AND puts less stress on the ligaments and tendons that are vulnerable to injury at higher intensities. Believe it
Thanks for that. Makes sense, hard to break the thoughts of I really should be going faster/further/stronger. That will be my homework for the next few weeks!
Had a look at the boards plan, think I’ll be following that. It’s great that you’ve colour coded and indicated the intensity the runs should be at. Looking forward to starting... I think :-)0 -
Thanks for that. Makes sense, hard to break the thoughts of I really should be going faster/further/stronger. That will be my homework for the next few weeks!
Had a look at the boards plan, think I’ll be following that. It’s great that you’ve colour coded and indicated the intensity the runs should be at. Looking forward to starting... I think :-)
You'll do great. It's very exciting, i personally can't wait for the plans to start as then when things will really take off in these parts 0 -
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Yes it does really work. And believe it or not, McMillan isn't even the most conservative pace calculator out there but it is the one that accompanies the Boards plan.
There are lots of articles, like this one, on the subject. The marathon is just that, a marathon and not a sprint, you want to train smart, stay injury free, and build a strong aerobic base, the more easy miles you can run the better your endurance come race day. Running easy miles improves heart and lung function AND puts less stress on the ligaments and tendons that are vulnerable to injury at higher intensities. Believe it
I love that most of the training runs will be slow ones. Suits me just fine being a plodder 0 -
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Hi imknackered, i really hope you aren't too knackered yet or it's going to be a rough few months :pac: Very impressive background! I don't know if you know but there's also a marathon improvers thread also which may suit you but of course you're more than welcome to hang out here, you may even be able to teach us recent novice mentors a thing or two
It sounds like you're in a good place on the injury front recently but as i've been saying already on here the key to keeping those injuries at bay is conservative pacing. Do you do much/any strength & conditioning work? A good Pilates class or something along those lines would be great for you too especially when you are injury prone.0 -
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Thanks skyblue46, I'll work off that until we got going. I'm sure I will have more question beforehand to annoy you withGood to get a PB on such a warm day. Well done. There isn't a plan here but it sounds like you're doing grand as it is. Between now and the beginning of the plan I'd work on getting a consistent easy pace for your 16/18k long run as one of your weekly runs. Ideally if you could do 4 days a week I'd throw in 2 easy runs of 4/5 miles and a 25/30 minute tempo run at 4:50-5:00 mins per K. 0 -
Im thinking of doing the DCM in Oct. When Do I have to register? Am I nuts??
Have run four half marathons in Dublin over last two years. I am running about 14-17 miles a week. Not in a running club.
Am I nuts? Is running a marathon worth it?
You're asking the wrong people to answer your question nope not nuts register whenever you want, just do it sooner rather than later as it will sell out soon
Oh and you are running more per week than I was when I decided to run the marathon 0 -
Thanks skyblue46, I'll work off that until we got going. I'm sure I will have more question beforehand to annoy you with
That's what we're here for. It'll be questions, questions and more questions from now until DCM. Then the questions will continue...and I'm 12 months since being in your shoes but no let up in how many questions I have yet! :pac:
It'd be great if you, and everyone else, post details of your runs so we can see how each of us are getting on. A training log is another option.0 -
Will do, I better follow the plans now the eyes are on meThat's what we're here for. It'll be questions, questions and more questions from now until DCM. Then the questions will continue...and I'm 12 months since being in your shoes but no let up in how many questions I have yet! :pac:
It'd be great if you, and everyone else, post details of your runs so we can see how each of us are getting on. A training log is another option. 0 -
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