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Fire at Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris

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    #452
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 66,833 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    SleetAndSnow wrote: »
    considering the video and the picture both show the mound of ash around the cross at the back and the embers on the roof, Id say they are real. There is a stone roof below the wooden roof I believe, with the spire breaking through the stone one in that section at the back I am assuming.

    Didn't know it was a stone roof. Great news, in that case.


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    #453
    Vita nova
    Registered Users Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Vita nova


    Sad to watch it on the news but the French value their cultural heritage and will do whatever is necessary to rebuild the damaged sections as faithfully as possible to the original. Initially the work will be seen as a copy but in a couple of hundred years it'll be seen in the same way as other parts of the cathedral that have been rebuild or changed down the centuries. We're dealing with long timescales here.

    I'd say when they rebuild it they'll have a team of workers on fire extinguisher duty especially beside anyone with a blowtorch or an angle grinder.


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    #454
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,239 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    gozunda wrote: »
    Sainte Sulpice - the second largest church in Paris (made famous by Dan Brown) went on fire just last month.

    https://www.rt.com/news/456629-french-catholic-churches-attacks/

    There has been a lot of attacks recently.

    Correlation is not causation.


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    #455
    For Forks Sake
    Registered Users Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    gozunda wrote: »
    Sainte Sulpice - the second largest church in Paris (made famous by Dan Brown in his book the Davinci Code) went on fire just last month.

    https://www.rt.com/news/456629-french-catholic-churches-attacks/

    What's you point please caller?


    also, eew..RT?


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    #456
    SleetAndSnow
    Registered Users Posts: 4,677 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Didn't know it was a stone roof. Great news, in that case.

    Yeah saw somebody say it on twitter, here:
    https://twitter.com/whalee_blue/status/1117916021325623297

    Also another picture of the stone roof inside,
    https://twitter.com/7billionpeoples/status/1117924266081648641

    Looks like 2 sections of it was damaged


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    #457
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Didn't know it was a stone roof. Great news, in that case.

    Not a stone roof. A stone barrel vault common in church architecture of that date underneath the wooden and lead roof above.


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    #458
    Strumms
    Registered Users Posts: 24,804 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Danzy wrote: »
    There has been a lot of attacks recently.

    Correlation is not causation.

    I wasn’t aware of the St Sulpice fire, Jesus, hell of a coincidence, basically 5 mins away too.


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    #459
    Manic Moran
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,220 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Looks like they got off lucky.
    For Forks Sake wrote: »
    What's the French for shade? Even posted in english for Trumpy

    https://twitter.com/SecCivileFrance/status/1117874924268376064

    The French don't seem to have any suitable helicopters, looking at the list of Securite Civile inventory. They have fixed wing bombers which are certainly inappropriate.

    There is a medium in between the SC's Ecureils and EC-145s which have basically no firefighting ability at all, and their fixed-wing water-bomber fleet, examples include Los Angeles' vetical drop Firehawks or Tokyo Fire Dept's cannon-equipped EC-225s. SC doesn't have that medium.

    So, yes, the SC are correct to not be using their water bomber fleet. But as a major city with a number of buildings which ladder trucks can't get to, are they correct not to be having the middle ground, or is it just a budget thing? The reason FDNY had their firefighter helicopter request denied was simple dollars, not because it was a bad idea.


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    #460
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    For Forks Sake wrote: »
    What's you point please caller?
    also, eew..RT?

    None. Theres many sources for news on the Sainte Suplice fire. I took the first one on Google. It happened. Btw RT clearly calls this out plus current fire was likley accidental.

    You got a problem with news? Why?


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    #461
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,239 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    For Forks Sake wrote: »
    What's you point please caller?


    also, eew..RT?

    So you are pretending there was no fire there?


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    #462
    tinyk68
    Registered Users Posts: 232 ✭✭tinyk68


    I've seen a lot of smart alec posts here tonight from people who've never been to notre dame. I was lucky enough to visit there in 2007. It was a majestic building. I remember vividly the hushed and spiritual atmosphere. I also remember the beautiful timber work near the main altar where the choir would have sat. It was carved with the stations of the cross and beautifully painted and gilded. I also climbed the bell tower and looked down at the roof that no longer exists. The flying buttresses were peopled with statues of the apostles, each one individually carved. I'm not religious but I was awed by the skill of the people who created these works. This is a tragedy and anyone who says otherwise has no appreciation of the beauty that exists in history. I'm so glad I saw it and so very sad at its fate.


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    #463
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Danzy wrote: »
    There has been a lot of attacks recently.

    Correlation is not causation.

    Did anyone say it was????


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    #464
    Chesty08
    Registered Users Posts: 6,083 ✭✭✭Chesty08


    It’s too much of a coincidence for Notre Dame to go up in flames during ‘renovations’ and at this particular time


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    #465
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,239 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    gozunda wrote: »
    Did anyone say it was????

    Me, you quoted it.


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    #466
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    tinyk68 wrote: »
    I've seen a lot of smart alec posts here tonight from people who've never been to notre dame. I was lucky enough to visit there in 2007. It was a majestic building. I remember vividly the hushed and spiritual atmosphere. I also remember the beautiful timber work near the main altar where the choir would have sat. It was carved with the stations of the cross and beautifully painted and gilded. I also climbed the bell tower and looked down at the roof that no longer exists. The flying buttresses were peopled with statues of the apostles, each one individually carved. I'm not religious but I was awed by the skill of the people who created these works. This is a tragedy and anyone who says otherwise has no appreciation of the beauty that exists in history. I'm so glad I saw it and so very sad at its fate.


    I've been there and visited it several times including a first in the early 1980s when the tour included both towers and part of the roof structure. The second time I was there - this tour was not available. For the number one cathedral in Paris - I thought the interior quite underwhelming tbh. The stonework however was among some of the best I've seen imo.


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    #467
    Laois_Man
    Registered Users Posts: 5,758 ✭✭✭Laois_Man


    A small Allahu Akbar gang knocked a bit of craic out of it anyway



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    #468
    Suckit
    Registered Users Posts: 11,215 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    Have you any source for this?


    https://streamable.com/q2297


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    #469
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Danzy wrote: »
    Me, you quoted it.

    Lol. My dear - you are drunk. Btw in the first instance you quoted my initial post.

    See:
    https://i.imgflip.com/2yoayv.jpg


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    #470
    Augme
    Registered Users Posts: 5,077 ✭✭✭Augme


    Laois_Man wrote: »
    A small Allahu Akbar gang knocked a bit of craic out of it anyway


    That's about as real as the tooth fairy.


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    #471
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    gctest50 wrote: »
    Just rain it down

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy5w4Xg8U7Q




    I think that's from a videogame or a film. Obviously if you did that in real life you'd explode the building and kill everyone in a 500meter radius :rolleyes:


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    #472
    riffmongous
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,625 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Laois_Man wrote: »
    A small Allahu Akbar gang knocked a bit of craic out of it anyway


    Clear fake, the voices are the very same as any 'unexpected jihad' meme from years ago. Are people really so naive??


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    #473
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I think that's from a videogame or a film. Obviously if you did that in real life you'd explode the building and kill everyone in a 500meter radius :rolleyes:

    No afaik- water drops are indeed sometimes used to fight building fires. By the time the water hits the fire it falls as droplets not a solid weight.

    See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federation_Tower#Construction

    Also interesting artice here:
     We need to fill the critical gaps in our response, particularly in specific capacities such as planes.” He went on: “It is not by coincidence that President Macron has called for a European Civil Protection Force. First, we must increase our collective capacity to respond, second to simplify and streamline the procedures and third we must have stronger links between national capacities and the deployment of assets at a European level

    https://www.aerosociety.com/news/aerial-firefighters/


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    #474
    kowloon
    Registered Users Posts: 13,278 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Laois_Man wrote: »
    A small Allahu Akbar gang knocked a bit of craic out of it anyway


    Do you honestly believe that's the original audio?


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    #475
    greencap
    Registered Users Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭greencap


    riffmongous wrote: »
    Clear fake, the voices are the very same as any 'unexpected jihad' meme from years ago. Are people really so naive??

    ****ing funny though. I lol'd.

    discussion/2058195983/russia-threadbanned-users-in-op/p3135

    😁



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    #476
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    greencap wrote: »
    riffmongous wrote: »
    Clear fake, the voices are the very same as any 'unexpected jihad' meme from years ago. Are people really so naive??

    ****ing funny though. I lol'd.
    Go you!


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    #477
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 81,626 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    riffmongous wrote: »
    Clear fake, the voices are the very same as any 'unexpected jihad' meme from years ago. Are people really so naive??

    Do you have to ask.


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    #478
    kowloon
    Registered Users Posts: 13,278 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Overheal wrote: »
    Do you have to ask.

    A combination of being stupid and wanting it to be real, I expect.


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    #479
    Ave Sodalis
    Registered Users Posts: 7,547 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    Genuinely the first time I've ever reported a video on Youtube. That's just plain dangerous and innocent people could get hurt by those who believe it's real.


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    #480
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users Posts: 35,625 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUVKcVSpg44



    An insight as to its disrepair.


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    #481
    kowloon
    Registered Users Posts: 13,278 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Ave Sodalis wrote: »
    Genuinely the first time I've ever reported a video on Youtube. That's just plain dangerous and innocent people could get hurt by those who believe it's real.

    Plenty of people hoping for just that, look at the number of low post accounts that set up on Boards to spout divisive BS like they need to create the conditions for some sort of reckoning.


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