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When will they [The Government] tell us the truth about Covid?

  • 08-08-2020 12:52pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 367 ✭✭


    Masks weaken the immune system. Come wintertime many will be unable to fight off viruses because they wore a mask all summer long. All part of the plan, many will get the yearly winter Flu/cold, will run and get tested and BINGO!! All positive for this farce of a virus. *Coronavirus is from the same family of viruses as the one that causes the common cold and flu.* They are laughing at us.

    I ask, why was the airports and ports never closed? If a deadly virus was here surely they would have been the first to close. No restrictions or procedures at airports either. Yet, pubs and house parties are being blamed for "cases rising" while they never closed the airports. This is deliberate so the pub culture in Ireland will cease to exist.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,551 ✭✭✭Sconsey


    Don2012 wrote: »
    Masks weaken the immune system. Come wintertime many will be unable to fight off viruses because they wore a mask all summer long. All part of the plan, many will get the yearly winter Flu/cold, will run and get tested and BINGO!! All positive for this farce of a virus. *Coronavirus is from the same family of viruses as the one that causes the common cold and flu.* They are laughing at us.

    I ask, why was the airports and ports never closed? If a deadly virus was here surely they would have been the first to close. No restrictions or procedures at airports either. Yet, pubs and house parties are being blamed for "cases rising" while they never closed the airports. This is deliberate so the pub culture in Ireland will cease to exist.

    At you, they are laughing at you...in your head.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,128 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Some people are totally bonkers


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,960 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Who are "they" and how is this the only thing they have managed to coordinate across the globe?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 367 ✭✭Don2012


    Sconsey wrote: »
    At you, they are laughing at you...in your head.


    Watch this, American doctors and professionals addressed Covid-19 misinformation with Capitol Hill Press Conference at the end of July. It went viral but Facebook and YouTube banned it.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/POLTxXtodLuV/

    Think for yourself and turn off RTE!!!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Don2012 wrote: »
    Watch this, American doctors and professionals addressed Covid-19 misinformation with Capitol Hill Press Conference at the end of July. It went viral but Facebook and YouTube banned it.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/POLTxXtodLuV/

    Think for yourself and turn off RTE!!!!!

    "A few" American doctors

    Is your one that was going on about riding spirits in your dreams part of that group?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 367 ✭✭Don2012


    GreeBo wrote: »
    Who are "they" and how is this the only thing they have managed to coordinate across the globe?

    Who do you think "they" is!! The government.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 21,926 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    Moved to conspiracy theories, local charter applies


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,551 ✭✭✭Sconsey


    Don2012 wrote: »
    Watch this, American doctors and professionals addressed Covid-19 misinformation with Capitol Hill Press Conference at the end of July. It went viral but Facebook and YouTube banned it.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/POLTxXtodLuV/

    Think for yourself and turn off RTE!!!!!

    Do your mental health a favor and stay off the right-wing conspiracy sites.


  • Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Don2012 wrote: »
    Who do you think "they" is!! The government.

    The world government ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    Plenty of well qualified experts that have a differing opinions to the current experts but because they don't fit the narrative that is being pushed at the moment they aren't listed to or give any media attention.



    It's fairly sad that the government don't listen to these other experts too busy hanging on every word from NPHET.

    What happened to the idea of a balanced debate by listening to the other options to deal with the virus from other experts rather than continually going down one path to the point of no return. We're so commited to it we have the blinders on we can't see any other option but there are plenty of other sensible options out there and I'm not talking about listening to crazy people on the internet with no qualifications.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 367 ✭✭Don2012


    Sconsey wrote: »
    Do your mental health a favor and stay off the right-wing conspiracy sites.

    What is "Right wing" this isn't America friend! It is laughable that you'd rather call anyone who has a different opinion from your own a "conspiracy theorist" rather than actually doing any thinking and research for yourself.


  • Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Don2012 wrote: »
    What is "Right wing" this isn't America friend! .

    You're the one citing American doctors.



    Anyway, right wing is right wing. It's not an American thing. You might be aware of the odd fascist knocking about Europe over the last number of decades.....


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,811 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    Don2012 wrote: »
    Masks weaken the immune system. Come wintertime many will be unable to fight off viruses because they wore a mask all summer long. All part of the plan, many will get the yearly winter Flu/cold, will run and get tested and BINGO!! All positive for this farce of a virus. *Coronavirus is from the same family of viruses as the one that causes the common cold and flu.* They are laughing at us.
    Healthcare professionals have been wearing masks daily for extended periods for probably over 70 years.
    People in Asian countries have a culture of mask wearing.

    If there were some health concerns, how come they have never been raised before a few "woke" people in the US were told to wear masks?
    If there was some conspiracy to kill people with colds and flu, this wouldn't do it.
    Don2012 wrote: »
    I ask, why was the airports and ports never closed? If a deadly virus was here surely they would have been the first to close. No restrictions or procedures at airports either. Yet, pubs and house parties are being blamed for "cases rising" while they never closed the airports. This is deliberate so the pub culture in Ireland will cease to exist.

    People still need food, medicine, post and all the other stuff of modern life. The numbers travelling through ports and airports were minuscule, and, lets face it, some people still need to travel for work. If a machine breaks down, maybe the nearest repair guy is in the UK or France.

    Most flights were cancelled BTW. The virus is transmitted by people mingling, so people were told to stop mingling. End of story.
    No country in the world would close ports and airports, it's stupid.
    All your points are stupid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 367 ✭✭Don2012


    Sconsey wrote: »
    Do your mental health a favor and stay off the right-wing conspiracy sites.

    Another example of Spanish Doctors speaking out but if you'd rather let RTE and politicans do your thinking for you, that's your choice.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/more-doctors-truth-speak-out-madrid-dismantling-false-pandemic-covid-19/5719993


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Don2012 wrote: »
    Watch this, American doctors and professionals addressed Covid-19 misinformation with Capitol Hill Press Conference at the end of July. It went viral but Facebook and YouTube banned it.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/POLTxXtodLuV/

    Think for yourself and turn off RTE!!!!!

    Think for yourself and actually research the sources you choose to give credence to!

    https://www.bbc.com/news/53559938
    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/07/in-viral-video-doctor-falsely-touts-hydroxychloroquine-as-covid-19-cure/

    If you wish to make claims, present evidence.
    Of note is the fact that these doctors have not.
    Of particular note to anyone with half a brain and a modicum of rational thought...
    Would be the fact that the primary peddler of this particular bullshít also believes amongst other things that:
    Five years ago, she alleged that alien DNA was being used in medical treatments, and that scientists were cooking up a vaccine to prevent people from being religious.

    Some of her other claims include blaming medical conditions on witches and demons - a common enough belief among some evangelical Christians - though she says they have sex with people in a dream world.

    "They turn into a woman and then they sleep with the man and collect his sperm… then they turn into the man and they sleep with a man and deposit the sperm and reproduce more of themselves," she said during a sermon in 2013.

    Another issue that Dr Immanuel targets is gay marriage, saying it can result in adults marrying children, according to the Daily Beast .

    She also offers a prayer to remove a generational curse, originally received from an ancestor, but transmitted through placenta, the news website's profile of her says.

    'Jesus will shut Facebook

    Don, you and your Ilk peddling this BS will lead to deaths.
    You're at best misinformed and unwilling to actually research this topic and address it's clear bias.
    At worst you're a misanthrope trotting out these lines of bunkum in the hope of fuelling someone else misery.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 367 ✭✭Don2012


    Padre_Pio wrote: »
    Healthcare professionals have been wearing masks daily for extended periods for probably over 70 years.
    People in Asian countries have a culture of mask wearing.

    Healthcare professionals wear masks when in contact with people who have a contiguous disease or illness, not around health people. Your point is ridiculous. Healthy people wearing masks weaken the immune system which come winter results in immune system not being about to do its job.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,811 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    Don2012 wrote: »
    Another example of Spanish Doctors speaking out but if you'd rather let RTE and politicans do your thinking for you, that's your choice.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/more-doctors-truth-speak-out-madrid-dismantling-false-pandemic-covid-19/5719993

    "With the participation of hundreds of professionals from all over the world, “Doctors for the Truth” stated that Covid-19 is a false pandemic created for political purposes.

    Doctors for the Truth is two people, not hundreds.

    There are tens of thousands of HCPs around the world who support various governments COVID strategies, and they're very vocal against strategies that don't promote lockdown.

    I'd trust them over two cranks.
    Don2012 wrote: »
    Healthcare professionals wear masks when in contact with people who have a contiguous disease or illness, not around health people. Your point is ridiculous. Healthy people wearing masks weaken the immune system which come winter results in immune system not being about to do its job.

    No, they don't. They wear masks for hours on end, daily, yearly, and no ill-effects.
    People travelling on public transport in Asia wear masks for hours at a time. Again, no ill effects.
    A neurosurgeon could be in theatre for 12 hours wearing a mask. They're not passing out of hypoxia or all the other nonsense side effects.

    Why is it only now, in the last few months, that all these supposed side-effects are being discovered.
    How come, in the history of mask wearing, no one discovered these effects?


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,348 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Don2012 wrote: »
    Healthcare professionals wear masks when in contact with people who have a contiguous disease or illness, not around health people. Your point is ridiculous. Healthy people wearing masks weaken the immune system which come winter results in immune system not being about to do its job.

    Can you link me to the peer reviewed study that backs up this claim please?


  • Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Don2012 wrote: »
    Healthcare professionals wear masks when in contact with people who have a contiguous disease or illness, not around health people. Your point is ridiculous. Healthy people wearing masks weaken the immune system which come winter results in immune system not being about to do its job.

    When they wear them isn't relevant. If they weakened the immune system then they'd weaken them and they'd all get sick.

    Plus, someone getting surgery isn't necessarily sick , so whey do they wear masks doing surgery to do a hip replacement?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,811 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    Blaaz_ wrote: »
    It is interesting taught in that some have zero sythoms and others take differing number if days to develop infections......hard to fathom it to be same virus
    Some people get the flu and it knocks them for six.
    Some people get the same flu and they're fine after a week.
    Some people never seem to get the flu.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 367 ✭✭Don2012


    Padre_Pio wrote: »
    If there were some health concerns, how come they have never been raised before a few "woke" people in the US were told to wear masks?
    If there was some conspiracy to kill people with colds and flu, this wouldn't do it..

    Coronaviruses are from the same family as the common cold/flu. If you want to believe the WHO and politicans that's your choice, but don't expect those that can see this for what it is to comply.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,686 ✭✭✭Deagol


    Don2012 wrote: »
    Masks weaken the immune system. Come wintertime many will be unable to fight off viruses because they wore a mask all summer long. All part of the plan, many will get the yearly winter Flu/cold, will run and get tested and BINGO!! All positive for this farce of a virus. *Coronavirus is from the same family of viruses as the one that causes the common cold and flu.* They are laughing at us.

    I ask, why was the airports and ports never closed? If a deadly virus was here surely they would have been the first to close. No restrictions or procedures at airports either. Yet, pubs and house parties are being blamed for "cases rising" while they never closed the airports. This is deliberate so the pub culture in Ireland will cease to exist.

    Do yourself a favour and go and research the term 'Confirmation Bias' - you maybe then will do better research into things that interest or effect you and be a more rounded and balanced individual.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,811 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    When they wear them isn't relevant. If they weakened the immune system then they'd weaken them and they'd all get sick.

    Plus, someone getting surgery isn't necessarily sick , so whey do they wear masks doing surgery to do a hip replacement?

    Because you're spreading bacteria from breathing and saliva on the patient, who is meant to be sterile.
    And knee replacements are messy. Bone chips go everywhere:D
    Don2012 wrote: »
    Coronaviruses are from the same family as the common cold/flu. If you want to believe the WHO and politicans that's your choice, but don't expect those that can see this for what it is to comply.

    I do want to believe them, because the alternative is internet cranks with dubious links to sketchy, unverified reports.

    I also refuse to believe that in a time where international strife is on the rise, that all the governments and health organisations of the world have surreptitiously banded together to oppress the world population through a virus and compulsory mask wearing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,551 ✭✭✭Sconsey


    Don2012 wrote: »
    Another example of Spanish Doctors speaking out but if you'd rather let RTE and politicans do your thinking for you, that's your choice.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/more-doctors-truth-speak-out-madrid-dismantling-false-pandemic-covid-19/5719993

    I say again, stay away from these types of sites, they are not good for you. Have you researched any of them? a quick Google is all it takes to inform you that they are complete nutters. I guess if you really want to believe this sh1te you will, but the majority of people are better informed.
    I honestly hope you are not losing sleep over the nonsense claimed on these fringe sites.


  • Registered Users Posts: 612 ✭✭✭ForstalDave


    Don2012 wrote: »
    Coronaviruses are from the same family as the common cold/flu. If you want to believe the WHO and politicans that's your choice, but don't expect those that can see this for what it is to comply.

    So was the spanish flu and look what that did, Just becasue it related to another virus does not mean its not more deadly


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,348 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Don2012 wrote: »
    Coronaviruses are from the same family as the common cold/flu. If you want to believe the WHO and politicans that's your choice, but don't expect those that can see this for what it is to comply.

    What is it? You haven't explained this bit yet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 367 ✭✭Don2012


    Can you link me to the peer reviewed study that backs up this claim please?

    https://youtu.be/TPXyrab3oHc

    My guess is you have already made up your mind. Trust the government and RTÉ with your life then. To as they say not as they do and let them take away out freedom.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,348 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Don2012 wrote: »

    Not peer reviewed.


    Also the first thing I like to do is check a source, something you don't seem to do.

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/mediabiasfactcheck.com/technocracy-news/%3famp
    Overall, we rate Technocracy.News a far-right tin foil hat Conspiracy site that promotes quackery level pseudoscience. We also rate them Very Low in factual reporting due to the routine publication of false information as evidenced by numerous failed fact checks.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,348 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Don2012 wrote: »
    https://youtu.be/TPXyrab3oHc

    My guess is you have already made up your mind. Trust the government and RTÉ with your life then. To as they say not as they do and let them take away out freedom.

    Do you even understand the term "peer reviewed study"? :confused:


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