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Lebanon explosion first conspiracy video appears.

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  • #2
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
    Registered Users Posts: 17,382 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    Not a clue what’s going on there. Want to explain.


  • #3
    Bubbaclaus
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    Do you mean the bird flying off the power line on the left?


  • #4
    brevity
    Registered Users Posts: 8,467 ✭✭✭brevity


    Nobody suspects the butterfly.


  • #5
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    Do you mean the bird flying off the power line on the left?

    If we looking at the same thing yes, it could be a bird. I not sure it flying off the power line though?

    I see a black something heading towards the port area from the left side. Others presume it to be a missile strike. Information on it not great, just something appears in the sky and heads towards the port area.


  • #6
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Screenshot picture, not great. Just track the thing coming in from the left side. I put a box around the object for others to notice where it is on video. It moving fast when you play it.

    522107.png


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  • #7
    4068ac1elhodqr
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    Case closed: Bird is a bird(s). Organic dynamic shape(s) on non-linear, irregular path, likely not fond of noise and significant air turbulance.

    rXXPNtw.png

    The only real mystery is what was being stored in a (below ground) storage facility, way behind the big white building.


  • #8
    riffmongous
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    Just a bird I think?

    I do reckon there will be plenty of theories on what started the original fire, but I don't think a missile attack will be one of them. I also don't believe they will be really conspiracy theories in the usual sense, there was plenty of rhetoric threatening Hezbollah and also Lebannon with violence coming out of Israel the last weeks, then also a court decision on Hizbollah's involvement with the murder of a PM due this week, not to mention ongoing anti-government protests due to the economy.


  • #9
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Confirmed as 2,750 tonnes of nitrate that was kept in 'unchecked storage'.


  • #10
    namloc1980
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    Are the birds in on it?


  • #11
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users Posts: 4,704 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Is the bird Jewish?


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  • #12
    Cheerful Spring2
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    Yadiel Lazy Seaside wrote: »
    Confirmed as 2,750 tonnes of nitrate that was kept in 'unchecked storage'.

    Unconfirmed officially, but some people seem to think this photograph matches the warehouse front door and windows. ****ing nuts they would stack bags of this stuff in there like that, an incident waiting to happen if this photo legit?

    522126.png


  • #13
    Scuid Mhór
    Registered Users Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Scuid Mhór


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Are the birds in on it?

    Hitchcock did his best to warn us ahead of time.


  • #14
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
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    How are the media gonna blame Trump though?


  • #15
    punisher5112
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    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    How are the media gonna blame Trump though?

    CNN will and are well able to sensor what's needed....


  • #16
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    How are the media gonna blame Trump though?

    Trump thinks it was an attack, he'll blame the generals for lying to him soon.

    He should be more careful in light of the political and security situation in the middle east. Evidence right now points to a chemical/explosion having occurred here and not a bomb or missile.

    https://twitter.com/AlArabiya_Eng/status/1290795701971095555


  • #17
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,064 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Anything Trump has to say about this should be safely ignored.

    I see many of the conspiracy experts on social media claiming this is a nuclear explosion. Despite the fact the orange cloud of gas clearly points to nitrates. But I suppose never let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy rant.


  • #18
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,122 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Anything Trump has to say about anything should be safely ignored.

    I see many of the conspiracy experts on social media claiming this is a nuclear explosion. Despite the fact the orange cloud of gas clearly points to nitrates. But I suppose never let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy rant.

    FYP


  • #19
    NIMAN
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    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Anything Trump has to say about this should be safely ignored.

    I see many of the conspiracy experts on social media claiming this is a nuclear explosion. Despite the fact the orange cloud of gas clearly points to nitrates. But I suppose never let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy rant.

    Once conspiracy nuts have their nonsense story, they won't believe anything else.

    Doesn't matter how much evidence is given to them, their belief is always right.


  • #20
    banie01
    Registered Users Posts: 16,458 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Are the birds in on it?

    Birds aren't real! They are Government surveillance tools!

    https://birdsarentreal.com/

    The NWO have clearly weaponised their creation!!!

    Wake up sheeple!


    :D;)


  • #21
    Timberrrrrrrr
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    Yadiel Lazy Seaside wrote: »
    Case closed: Bird is a bird(s). Organic dynamic shape(s) on non-linear, irregular path, likely not fond of noise and significant air turbulance.

    rXXPNtw.png

    The only real mystery is what was being stored in a (below ground) storage facility, way behind the big white building.

    Who has said it was a "below ground storage facility"?


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  • #22
    King Mob
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    NIMAN wrote: »
    Once conspiracy nuts have their nonsense story, they won't believe anything else.

    Doesn't matter how much evidence is given to them, their belief is always right.
    Well most aren't actually going to outright state their belief or their theory.
    There'll just be a lot of pointing at details armchair detectives believe blow the whole thing.
    And a lot of people are suddenly going to become expert chemists in the topic of fertilizer and nitrates.

    There will be vague insinuations that their particular "They" are involved, but no coherent solid theory.
    And then it will all be forgotten in a month cause it's not in America. The process will repeat for the next tragedy.


  • #23
    zom
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    Now Lebanon faces food crisis after Beirut silo destroyed in Tuesday's blast:
    The silos serve as a strategic storage for Lebanon, with about 85% of the country's cereals stored in the facility, according to trading company Mena Commodities
    https://www.spglobal.com/platts/en/market-insights/latest-news/agriculture/080420-explosion-at-port-of-beirut-damages-grain-silos-terminal-reports

    Lebanon imports 80 percent of its food supplies and the Port of Beirut was a vital lifeline for the country’s grain imports, storing 85 percent of its cereals
    https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/beirut-port-explosion-a-crippling-blow-to-lebanon-s-food-security-38670

    https://www.france24.com/en/20200805-lebanon-has-less-than-a-month-s-grain-reserves-after-beirut-blast


  • #24
    zom
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    All region is in serious risk of food shortage and this is not only Lebanon or Syria but there two countries are about to be experience it most:
    https://www.syrianews.cc/madman-erdogan-steals-syrian-wheat-kids-injured-by-bomb/

    Big fire on food market in Ajman near Dubai (yesterday):
    https://www.foxnews.com/world/massive-fire-market-ajman-dubai

    Food warehouses in fire in Najaf, Iran (yesterday):
    https://en.shafaqna.com/159413/fire-in-food-and-electrical-storages-in-najaf-photos/


  • #25
    [Deleted User]
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    ****ing nuts they would stack bags of this stuff in there like that, an incident waiting to happen if this photo legit?

    Why?

    What is that stuff?

    Why is storing it in the manner depicted "fcuking nuts"?

    What way should it be stored?

    Edit: Replied before I got to this post -
    King Mob wrote: »
    And a lot of people are suddenly going to become expert chemists in the topic of fertilizer and nitrates.

    Beaten to it by our resident armchair detective


  • #26
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Why?

    What is that stuff?

    Why is storing it in the manner depicted "fcuking nuts"?

    What way should it be stored?

    The stored Tons of ammonia nitrate bags at a port close to a city is sensible to you.

    People use ammonia nitrate in the making of high explosives.

    Narrative is they just left it there to sit for years. The should have sold it or used it, or stored it in an area with no civilians.

    Since we saw what happened obviously the messed up here.


  • #27
    coolshannagh28
    Registered Users Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭coolshannagh28


    Anfo is pretty east to detonate and if the stock in the warehouse started to break down because of the time, temperature and condition of the warehouse then a heat source could set it off but it is feasible that an outside agency could sabotage it.


  • #28
    bfa1509
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    One things for sure, is that if I ever see an explosion in the distance I will get the hell down and block my ears! See how long it took for the blast to reach the viewer after the explosion! Nuts!


  • #29
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    This happened a few hours ago. I hope the country doesn't fall apart?

    https://twitter.com/dalalmawad/status/1292134416362491904

    Hezbollah feels threatened they might swoop in and take over. People in the Christian and Sunni neighbourhoods may want Hezbollah gone, but Hezbollah will react to outside influence pushing for regime change and changing the status quo.


  • #30
    [Deleted User]
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    The stored Tons of ammonia nitrate bags at a port close to a city is sensible to you.

    That sentence doesn't make any sense, please try again.
    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    People use ammonia nitrate in the making of high explosives.

    It is also used primarily as a fertiliser, but that doesn't give the CT gang as big of a hard-on. By the way, how do you know that is ammonium nitrate in the pic or that the photo is of the warehouse that blew up?
    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    Narrative is they just left it there to sit for years. The should have sold it or used it, or stored it in an area with no civilians.

    Since we saw what happened obviously the messed up here.

    Hindsight is 20/20. Obviously, what happened is catastrophic. The full reasons behind how and why it happened are certainly not yet known, and may never be fully disclosed. However, that doesn't stop the bullsh1t conspiracy nuts to immediately jump to all sorts of conclusions and suddenly become experts in all manner of how to store and manage explosive compounds.

    Tell the truth, had you ever even heard of ammonium nitrate before all this? Going by your insistence on calling it ammonia nitrate, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say no.


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  • #31
    krissovo
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    coolshannagh28 wrote: »
    Anfo is pretty east to detonate and if the stock in the warehouse started to break down because of the time, temperature and condition of the warehouse then a heat source could set it off but it is feasible that an outside agency could sabotage it.

    Its not ANFO until you add a fuel, ammonium nitrate on its own is stable. For 2700 tonnes you would need roughly between 150 > 270 tonnes of say Diesel mixed to make a viable explosive.

    Grain dust can also act as a fuel (same theory as a custard powder bomb) so storing all that ammonium nitrate next to grain store that has risk already seams a more plausible explanation rather than outside agencies.


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